Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

As for length I just just don't find it onerous to pontificate at length and prefer to say everything I want to than I could possibly care about brevity. I don't intend to convey any particular emotional tonality with the length
Hmm.. I'll take your word for it. Humans are social creatures and are trained to reflexively look for information in body language and such. When they don't have that to look at those reflexes are still present and find that information elsewhere. You don't need to intend to convey anything for people to pick up on things and misread you.

@DragonParadox Did we use Arianna's body as a regent yet or is it still sitting in the Five Courts to be used later? I'm asking if that's also a valid Crown focus for the Red King. In which case we'd have two right now.
 
Hmm.. I'll take your word for it. Humans are social creatures and are trained to reflexively look for information in body language and such. When they don't have that to look at those reflexes are still present and find that information elsewhere. You don't need to intend to convey anything for people to pick up on things and misread you.

@DragonParadox Did we use Arianna's body as a regent yet or is it still sitting in the Five Courts to be used later? I'm asking if that's also a valid Crown focus for the Red King. In which case we'd have two right now.

Nope, you used some elder bodies but not her.
 
[X] Spend some time with your family

Family time. Been awhile.
 
Hmm.. I'll take your word for it. Humans are social creatures and are trained to reflexively look for information in body language and such. When they don't have that to look at those reflexes are still present and find that information elsewhere. You don't need to intend to convey anything for people to pick up on things and misread you.
This is also true but I imagine if you go back to a lot of my posts taking the lack of brevity as anger in a lot of them would be kind of strange because for a lot of them they're just long there's talking about normal or random subjects like a lore or possible implications of characters or charms or talking to other members of the thread if they're made in Anger the tone gets kind of strange to imply that.

There's a reason I said I'm a bit long-winded or the digital equivalent because I prefer to just make sure that I say everything I'm going to say on a thing then leave things kind of in the Wind as far as definition or anything else goes. All this to say for me personally from my username. I wouldn't really try to infer tonality from length my comments are in general pretty long simply because well of my preference of saying what I want to say rather than any particular tone mapping.

There's something to be said about the fact that being brief or getting your point across in as little words as possible is a skill but it's also something you need to refine and I'm also on this thread to have fun not writing an English assignment outline where I then refine down my points into a Salient single paragraph.
 
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Welp this is a bit late, though fortunately this isn't a big update
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Nov 22, 2024 at 3:43 PM, finished with 49 posts and 9 votes.

  • [X] Finish making and presenting the Book of Laws
    [X] Spend some time with your family
    [X] Finish making and presenting the Book of Laws
    -[X] Get to know Maggie, the kid's been inside your soul, but she's barely said a dozen words to you
    [X] Get to know Maggie, the kid's been inside your soul, but she's barely said a dozen words to you
    -[X] Tiffany, 11 XP spent, 2 banked
    --[X] Wits 4 dots, 1 XP
    --[X] Perception 4 dots, 1 XP
    --[X] Counterspell: Human, 3 XP
    -[X] Olivia, 12 XP spent, 1 banked
    --[X] Manipulation 2 dots, 1 XP
    --[X] Perception 5 dots, 1 XP
    --[X] Intelligence 4, 1 XP
    --[X] Mana Manipulation Ritual: Infusion, 0 XP
    --[X] Mana Manipulation Ritual: Shape Mana, 0 XP
    --[X] Clairvoyance 3, 6 XP
    --[X] Fortune path 1, 4 XP
 
Arc 15 Post 3: With Ocher Thread
With Ocher Thread

24st of February 2007 A.D.

Wizards are no strangers to exacting specifications, in composition, provenience, age even the time of day in which leather had changed to velum or iron to steel, but even so Ancient Mai looks in askance when you explain what this book's going to need for this working. Seven substances for seven sins, seven bindings for seven laws. Only the first had been agreed to. For now only it would be made, but you'd told her what it would take to make the others... Well two through six. You're pretty sure you could make something for those who broke the Seventh Law, but that's a secret best left slumbering unless it is desperately needed.

For the First you're given a scrap of ancient silk blue as the sky, still vibrant and yet in candle's light red and blood, once part of the whole that covered the face of Temujin whom history recalls as Genghis Khan. For death is not a thing to be forgotten even when guilt is set aside. Light should those pages be that were set upon silk, yet heavy as lead they are as you press them and heavy the scents of mirth and of sage. Red ocher stains your fingers red. Not the red of blood this time though, but the pigment that had been used in laying to rest the honored dead.

No instrument of forgetting this, no pardon can any magic give against the judgement of one's own counsel, but this much you can give to people like Harry, that their magic will not betray them, will not drive them to be the worst of themselves.

The brazier set over the table burns with high leaping flame as though it too approves it the thought. Flame is the element of rage of loss of self, but also of transmutation. So it was written in the Corpus Hermeticum when the White Council of today was barely a dream in the mind of a man named Ambrosius. So it was the judgement of fire that was given to wizards who erred in this way before the Sword of Damocles, fitting that it should bear witness.

Gained Book of Laws (First): Splendor ●●●●

Now all that's left is the politics... joy. You had been cordially invited to speak before the White Council, all of it. Reading between the lines this is the Merlin anticipating questions from the more hidebound wizards about your qualifications and skills. 'Who is this Molly Carpenter?'

While you have no doubt you can handle that there's the question of if you should take advantage of your place in the eye of so many wizards to promote some of your other ideas.

What do you speak of before the White Council?

[] Of the need to modernize, some of the greatest threats out there are moving into whole new technological vistas which the Council has been slow to adapt to

[] Talk about the need to involve more minor practitioners in their own defense and more broadly in maintaining the magical health of their communities

[] Just stick to explaining what the Book does and why you are competent to make it

[] Write in


OOC: Enjoy.
 
So what does the first book of law do exactly? Does it have an exception clause to allow breaking the first Law in self defense?
wizard rolls to get the stuff hidden since Molly does not know enough to guess
Also what is stuff hidden referring to?

Edit: Nevermind the roll question it's the crafting components. I thought it was some politic thing.
 
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So what does the first book of law do exactly? Does it have an exception clause to allow breaking the first Law in self defense?

Also what is stuff hidden referring to?

Edit: Nevermind the roll question it's the crafting components. I thought it was some politic thing.
Bro I'm gonna be honest this is a dumb comment like I'm sorry but self defense wasn't a justification before they literally could no longer do it. Figure shit out without magic killing humans or die.
 
I figured that is would become a replacement for the doom of damocles. Otherwise they basically have to make every magic user in the world sign which is impractical.
I mean it's really not all that impractical theoretically you could do it in like a day. At least you can do it to the entire council in like a day. Sure people actually need to sign it but the issue your talking about was already an issue without the book nothings changed of wizards outside the council being able to use it.
 
I figured that is would become a replacement for the doom of damocles. Otherwise they basically have to make every magic user in the world sign which is impractical.
The White Council doesn't have every magic user in the world, the number was like.. 50k or something, I forget. Most magic humans aren't WC material. This entire time I thought they would just be really big fucking books or books with infinite pages that they'd have everyone on the WC sign and that it'd function differently depending on who signed it.

Like, if they've violated the Laws already they don't get the self defense or in the defense of others exception clauses but if they haven't they get it which would help prevent warlocks like Peabody from just being amongst their ranks able to function normally since he used mind magic on people for other reasons and messing with Outsiders etc.
 
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[X] Of Unity. You speak about Unity and inclusivity, about how it is through division and alienation that the enemies of Creation find their way into the hearts of those who should have been its defenders, preservers, builders
-[X] You speak of techbane and the nature of magical alienation, the gift setting the wizards apart from mundane humanity in this modern era, when the spirit of SIngularity is a new god desiring to be born, more so than it has ever done before.
-[X] You speak of talents and population explosion, of those who are not accepted by White Council and yet are still subject to the same dangers
-[X] You speak of the Masquerade itself, of how it will only take one slip for it to fail irreversibly and in the worst way possible
-[X] You use the history of your soul as an example of what might be possible, and of dangers and opportunities such a world has
-[X] Empathy, Etiquette excellency
-[X] Source Code Compliance Protocol with essence spending

Something like this. Maybe? All those preset things are symptoms. Symptoms of how White Council has set itself apart. It needs to involve itself in the world more. Not in politics maybe, but in the worldly affairs.
 
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Why is the focus on doom of Damocles? this should be a preventative measure so that council members don't fucking get corrupted. This was never about getting every magic user in the world this was about essentially putting a block on as many people as possible. Just doing it as a doom of Damocles doesn't prevent people hiding corruption which was the whole worry previously you know with traitors who went unnoticed for years. With it being a requirement of white council members to sign on that's no longer a worry for traitors in the white council with issues concerning the law. It also means they can't be mind controlled to break them giving an extra defense. If it was the doom of Damocles it only fixes the unneeded executions it does not fix the underlying issues of traitors or mind control.
 
[x] Yog

Sounds like a solid plan. Even if we don't get them to bend, it will make them think at least, and maybe not get in Molly's way when she addresses things herself
 
Because not being able to kill even with your death curse and having that known makes wizards a more tempting target for all sorts of predators.

Also the same reason we talked Harry out of signing.
I thought the book simply erased your name if you broke the law, and that you would feel it happening and so could avoid doing it without realizing.

The White Council still has to do the actual enforcement. It's merely surveillance both internal and external for wizards.

So you can still death curse. It erases your name, but you are dead anyway. You are beyond the council's judgement.

Because otherwise the White Council would be nutters to touch the book, giving an object made by an outside power leverage over every wizard's life and magic.
 
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I thought the book simply erased your name if you broke the law, and that you would feel it happening and so could avoid doing it without realizing.

The White Council still has to do the actual enforcement. It's merely surveillance both internal and external for wizards.
Read the update. It makes it physically impossible to break the law. And the name burning out of the book if they manage it anyway is a backup in case of wise-asses.
Because otherwise the White Council would be nutters to touch the book, giving an object made by an outside power leverage over every wizard's life and magic.
Hence the focus on wizards that would otherwise be killed as a more inclusive version of the doom of Damocles.

I wish that it hadn't been in spoiler so I could include it in the reply, but this is how Yog write the book of laws.

It's an absolute effect stopping action and if some Exalted with something like Freedom Let's Go signs then breaks the laws then their name is burned out of the book.
 
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Because not being able to kill even with your death curse and having that known makes wizards a more tempting target for all sorts of predators.

Also the same reason we talked Harry out of signing.
That's dumb wizards already legally couldn't do that and the fact there were only dozens of traitors means that most white council members already don't use magic to murder mortals. Also really dumb when you realize said predators aren't human and so can still be murdered with magic.

Also even if desperate and about to die a wizard is still going to be executed if it's learned they killed mortals with magic. If what your saying was more prevalent the traitor count would of been way higher.
 
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