Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

This reads way too much like she's training a dog.

"Sit"
"Roll Over"
"Eat the light"
*belly scritches*
"Good Demon"

:V

I mean... that is not an inaccurate way of putting it. For a White Court Vampire who has a good relationship with their demon it is kind of like managing a loyal pet who nonetheless wants to eat the people around them at all times. There is a lot of internal bargaining and explaining involved.
 
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Remember, her mentor is the one with the esoteric vampire powers. Leinth used his demon to heal someone. She would not have gotten that lore without some consultation in the background.
O shit. I don't intend to read it too deeply, but o shit if it even slightly same. Suppose we would know if she suddenly learn to.summon shadow demons...
 
Molly didnt try using Sophia's Exorcism first? Hmm.
Given as the Chitchen Itza ritual killed the demons in every living halfblood without directly harming the halfbloods themselves, the spirit Gift Exorcism should work just fine.

Interesting.
I would have expected Susan, and indeed every surviving Fellowship of St Giles agent, to be at least Willpower 8 in order to survive walking around with that thing in her head. Guess thats for the older agents.

Huh.
It didnt occur to me before, but Martin is probably either one of the Red King's direct brood, or was infected by someone only a single degree removed from him. Given as he's one of the Red King's personal agents.

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[X] Do not ask
-[X]Use a Crown question instead: The circumstances of Martin's infection. Focus: Martin's shoes


I dont think Molly would intentionally press into the obvious trauma of a putative ally unless she thought it was absolutely necessary, which isnt clear here. But her Urge remains curiosity, so I think she would ask a Crown question instead.

Using a person's shoes as a focus is traditional for Molly, and a callback to when she tracked Lydia by her boot tracks and discovered she was probably possessed.
 
Interesting.
I would have expected Susan, and indeed every surviving Fellowship of St Giles agent, to be at least Willpower 8 in order to survive walking around with that thing in her head. Guess thats for the older agents.

Willpower 8 is rare, Willpower 8 is Harry Dresden when he's not dealing with mind magic (which he rolls as willpower 10). A Fellowship member trying not to eat someone is also making use of their intimacies. If and when those intimacies erode.... well that is how they lose people. It is also worth noting that as for instance Martin counts things Susan is still new, she might yet crack under pressure. People like him who have been in this for decades or centuries, they are the ones with Willpower 8-10. The interesting thing is that when someone gets that high they no longer need the intimacy of say 'I am not a monster' to hold on. Some of the oldest and most skilled halfbloods in the Fellowship also have the potential to be the most jaded
 
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Willpower 8 is rare, Willpower 8 is Harry Dresden when he's not dealing with mind magic (which he rolls as willpower 10). A Fellowship member trying not to eat someone is also making use of their intimacies. If and when those intimacies erode.... well that is how they lose people. It is also worth noting that as for instance Martin counts things Susan is still new, she might yet crack under pressure. People like him who have been in this for decades or centuries, they are the ones with Willpower 8-10. The interesting is that when someone gets that high they no longer need the intimacy of say 'I am not a monster' to hold on. Some of the oldest and most skilled halfbloods in the Fellowship also have the potential to be the most jaded
I still think harry has greater willpower than 8 or even certain senior council members due to protagonist energy and I'm fairly sure some of them aren't all that willful in comparison.

I mean he won what was essential a willpower challenge while in mother winters presence. Sure they didn't bring everything they have to bear as I'm fairly sure humans can't stand that. But he still managed it.
 
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[X] Do not ask
-[X]Use a Crown question instead: The circumstances of Martin's infection. Focus: Martin's shoes

Run from it, hide from it...

The Shoes will return. It's been too long since we've asked Shoes the answer to everything.
 
[x] Ask Martin what infected him

Shoes don't seem like a great focus unless he was wearing them for his inflection.
 
[x] Ask Martin what infected him

Shoes don't seem like a great focus unless he was wearing them for his inflection.
I'd agree except he's actively wearing them. They're his possession so asking a question about him from an object he's wearing that are his very least kind of long-term possession is exactly what the crown is supposed to do.

[X] Do not ask
-[X]Use a Crown question instead: The circumstances of Martin's infection. Focus: Martin's shoes
 
[x] Ask Martin what infected him

Why spy on people when you can just ask?
Ve brought it up after all.

Be polite people, it might work just as well as setting our all-seeing-gaze onto his innermost secrets.
 
We'll see how wisely the new charm ends up getting used. Hopefully it doesn't ruin the gameplay by getting spammed on sheer principle. What a mess.

I could go either way here but I'm guessing Martin is going to be important going forward so I'd rather a more thorough answer from an objective omniscient standpoint.
[X] Do not ask
-[X]Use a Crown question instead: The circumstances of Martin's infection. Focus: Martin's shoes
 
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[x] Ask Martin what infected him

Why spy on people when you can just ask?
Ve brought it up after all.

Be polite people, it might work just as well as setting our all-seeing-gaze onto his innermost secrets.
Because being polite involves not pressing someone on something they are obviously uncomfortable about.
And because they can lie.

Specifically, OOC? Martin is a deepcover Red Court triple agent.
As in, he was a Red Court priest, turned into a half blood and sent to infiltrate the Fellowship more than a century ago.
And while he was undercover, he was radicalized into an actual Fellowship agent.

The Fellowship dont know he is supposed to be working for the Reds, and the Reds dont know he's looking for a way to destroy them. Either side could and would kill him for this.
He knew only that it had hurt him when he had tried to murder the child. From his perspective, it could have been almost anything—an archangel standing guard, or a spirit of light as terrible as the Ick had been foul. I thought back to the voice coming from Murphy's mouth, pronouncing judgment upon the Red Court, and suddenly understood what was making the Red King hesitate, what he was really thinking: that the entity over the altar might be something he did not think actually existed—like maybe the real Kukulcan.
And he was afraid.
Susan couldn't do anything. If she acted, if she revealed what she was, the enemy's uncertainty would vanish and the conflict would immediately ensue again. Outnumbered so heavily, she wouldn't have a chance.
But she knew what she had, in uncertainty and fear, and she neither moved nor made a sound. It was a weapon as potent as the wills of the demigods themselves—it had, after all, paralyzed the Red King. But it was a fragile weapon, a sword made of glass, and I felt my eyes drawn to the broken pieces of obsidian on the floor.
I couldn't move—and time was not our ally. With every moment that passed, the more numerous enemy would become more organized, recover more from the shock of the sudden invasion of a small army smack in the middle of their holiday celebration. I needed an opportunity, a moment, if I was going to get Maggie out of this mess. And I needed it soon.
I strained against the wills of the Lords of Outer Night, unable to move—and keeping their attention locked upon me. One by one, my gaze traveled over each of the golden masks. I focused on the last one for a time, then began again with the first, tried to test each individual will, to find out which would be the weakest point of attack when my moment came.
Just then, Martin ghosted into the temple through the fourth door, making absolutely no sound, and it looked to me like the moment was freaking nigh. All of the Lords present were focused on me. The Red King stood intently distracted by Susan's light show, while his severed hand crawled its way up his leg and hopped over to his wounded arm, where rubbery tendrils of black ooze immediately extruded from whole and wounded flesh alike, and began intertwining.
Martin had walked into what had to be a Fellowship operative's wet dream: the Red King's naked back, and no one to stop him from going medieval on the leader of the vile edifice of power and terror that was the Red Court.
He took the machete from its sheath without a whisper of steel on nylon and drew back, readying himself to strike. There was an intensity of focus in his face that I had never seen before.
He closed the last two steps in a superquick blur, went into a spin, and I was getting ready to cheer—
—when his foot swept up to streak savagely through the air beneath the glowing white light.
I heard Susan let out a cry as she fell, startled by the blow. Martin, moving with his eyes closed, got close to her, his arms lashing out, and caught something between them. He ripped hard with his left arm, twisting the machete up with the right as he did—and suddenly Susan was fully visible, bowed into a painful arch by Martin's grip on her. The feather cloak had fallen from her, and the blade of Martin's machete rested against her throat.
I screamed in rage. It came out as a sort of vocalized seethe.
The Red King took a swift step back as Martin attacked, his eyes intent. Then, when Susan appeared, his head tilted as he worked through what he was seeing.
"Please excuse me, my lord," Martin murmured, giving a slight bow of his head to the Red King. "Drop it," he said in a flat voice to Susan. He twisted his body more, bending her painfully, and pressing the machete's edge against her throat even harder, until Susan's fingers opened and Amoracchius fell to the floor, its light slowly dying.
"A trick," said the Red King. Anger began to pour off of him. "A charlatan's trick." His eyes moved from Susan up to Martin. "And you have revealed yourself."
"I beg your forgiveness, my lord," Martin said. "It seemed the proper time. On my initiative, strike teams began removing Fellowship personnel and safe houses two hours ago. By this time tomorrow, there won't be an operative left alive south of the United States. And our financial division will have taken or destroyed well over ninety percent of their accounts."
"You son of a bitch," Susan said, her voice overflowing with pain. "You fucking traitor."
Martin's expression flickered at her words. But his eyes never left the Red King. "I give you the Fellowship of St. Giles, my lord," he said. "And I beg you to grant me my reward."
"Reward," Susan said, loading more contempt and hate into the word than should have been possible. "What could they possibly give you, Martin, to make it worth what you've done?"
The Red King stared at Susan and said, "Explain it to her."
"You misunderstand," Martin said calmly. "I have not betrayed the Fellowship, Susan. This was the plan from the moment I joined it. Think. You've known me for less than a decade and you've seen how near some of our scrapes have been. Did you truly believe I had survived a hundred and fifty years of battle against the Red Court, outlived every other operative ever to serve the Fellowship on my own merits?" He shook his head. "No. Escapes were provided. As were targets. It took me fifty years and I had to personally kill two of my fellows and friends working much as I was, to win the trust of the Fellowship. Once they admitted me to the inner circle, their time had come. Trust is a poison, Susan. It took another century to ferret out their secrets, but it is finally done. And our people will finish removing the Fellowship, in every meaningful sense, by tomorrow. It is over."

Susan's eyes flickered over to me, and Maggie continued to weep quietly, huddling in on herself. Susan's face was twisted with pain. There were furious tears in her eyes as she looked at me.
And I couldn't even speak to her.
"And what do you get?" Susan asked her, voice shaking.
"Ascension," said the Red King. "I have no interest in admitting bloodthirsty lunatics to the nobility of my Court. Martin has proven himself—his dedication, his self-control, and, most important, his competence, over the course of decades. He was a priest for fifty years before he was even permitted to attempt this service."
"Honestly, Susan," Martin said. "I told you many times that you can never let emotion interfere with your duties. If you had listened to me, I'm certain you would have caught on. I would have been forced to kill you, as I have several others who were too wise for their own good, but you would have known."
Susan closed her eyes. She was shaking. "Of course. You could make contact as often as you wished. Every time I visited Maggie."
"Correct," he said quietly. He turned back to the Red King. "My lord, I beg your forgiveness. I sought only to give you that which you wished, and the timing made it necessary for me to act, or see the opportunity pass us by."
"Under the circumstances, I think I will not object, priest," the Red King said. "If the strike teams are as successful as you predict, you will have your reward and my gratitude."
Martin bowed his head to the Red King, and then looked up at me. He studied my face for a moment before he said, "The wizard has Alamaya's dagger in his sash, my lord, should you wish to complete the ritual."
The Red King took a deep breath and then blew it out, his expression becoming almost benevolent. "Martin, Martin, the voice of practicality. We've been lost without you."
"My lord is too kind," Martin said. "Please accept my condolences on the loss of Arianna, my lord. She was a remarkable woman."
"Remarkably ambitious," the Red King said. "Determined to cling to the past, rather than exploring new opportunities. She and her entire coterie, determined to undermine me. Had she destroyed this animal and then made good upon her promise to break the back of the accursed White Council, she would have been a real threat to my power. I take no pleasure in thinking on it, but her death was meant to be."
"As you say, my lord," Martin said.
The Red King approached me, smiling, and reached for the dagger in my sash.
Susan bared her teeth, still straining, but Martin was more than her equal, it seemed.
There was nothing I could do. The deck had been stacked so hard against me that even with Martin on our side, things had looked grim. His treachery had come at the ideal moment, damn him. Damn them all. There was nothing I could . . .
Long ago, when I was little more than a child, my first lover and I had devised a spell to let us speak silently to each other in class. It was magic much like the speaking stone Ebenezar had crafted, but simpler, with a much shorter range. I had never used to it communicate with anyone but Elaine, but Susan had been intimate with me—and I thought that at that moment, the only thought on our minds was Maggie.
It might be enough to establish the link, even if it was only one-way.
I grasped for the minor magic, fighting to pull it together through the dragging chains of the wills of the Lords of Outer Night, and cast my thought at Susan as clearly as I could. He doesn't know all of it, I sent to her desperately. He doesn't know about the enchantment protecting your skin. He only knows about the cloak because he saw you use it when we got here.
Susan's eyes widened briefly. She'd heard me.
The altar, I thought. The ritual meant to kill us can be turned back upon them. If one of them dies on that knife, the curse will go after their bloodline, not ours.
Her eyes widened more. I saw her thinking furiously.
"Martin," she asked quietly. "Why did Arianna target my daughter?"
Martin looked down at Susan, at Maggie, and then away. "Because the child's father is the son of Margaret LeFay, the daughter of the man who killed her husband. By killing her, this way she would avenge herself upon all of you."
If I hadn't already been more or less motionless, I would have frozen in place.
Margaret LeFay. Daughter of the man who had killed Arianna's husband (and vampire child), Paolo Ortega.
Duke Ortega. Who had been destroyed by the Blackstaff.
Ebenezar McCoy.
One of the most dangerous wizards in the world. A man of such personal and political power that she would never have been able to take him down directly. So she had set out to strike at him through his bloodline. From him to my mother. From her to me. From me to Maggie. Kill the child and kill us all.
That was what Arianna had meant when she said it wasn't about me.
It was about my grandfather.
Suddenly it made sense that the old man had put his life on the line by declaring himself my mentor when the Council would have killed me for slaying Justin DuMorne. Suddenly it made sense why he had been so patient with me, so considerate, so kind. It hadn't just been an act of random kindness.
And suddenly it made sense why he would barely ever speak of his apprentice, Margaret LeFay—a name she'd earned for herself, when her birth certificate must have read Margaret McCoy. Hell, for that matter, he probably never told the Council that Margaret was his daughter. I sure as hell had no intentions of letting them know about Maggie, if I got her out of this mess.
My mother had eventually been killed by enemies she had made—and Ebenezar, her father, the most dangerous man on the White Council, had not been there to save her. The circumstances wouldn't matter. No matter what he'd accomplished, I knew the old man would never forgive himself for not saving his daughter's life, any more than I would if I failed Maggie. It was why he had made a statement, a demonstration of what would happen to those who came at me with a personal vengeance—he was trying, preemptively, to save his grandson.
And it explained why he had changed the Grey Council's focus and led them here. He had to try to save me—and to save my little girl.
And, some cynical portion of me added, himself. Though I wasn't even sure that would be a conscious thought on his part, underneath the mountain of issues he had accrued.
No wonder Arianna had been so hot and bothered to use the bloodline curse, starting with Maggie. She'd avenge herself upon me, who hadn't had the good grace to die in a duel, and upon Ebenezar, who had simply killed Ortega as you would a dangerous animal, a workaday murder performed with expedience and an extremely high profile. Arianna must have lost a lot of face in the wake of that—and my ongoing exploits against the Reds and their allies would only have made her more determined to show me my place. With a single curse, she'd kill one of the Senior Council and the Blackstaff all at once. My death would be something to crow about, too—since, as Arianna herself had noted, no one had pulled it off yet—and I felt I could confidently lay claim to the title of Most Infamous Warden on the Council, after Donald Morgan's death.
For Arianna, what a coup. And after that, presumably . . . a coup.
Of course, if the Red King was holding the knife, he got the best of all worlds. Dead enemies, more prestige, and a more secure throne. No-brainer.
He took the knife from my belt, smiling, and turned toward the altar—and my daughter.
Dear God, I thought. Think, Dresden. Think!
One day I hope God will forgive me for giving birth to the idea that came next.
Because I never will.
I knew how angry she was. I knew how afraid she was. Her child was about to die only inches beyond her reach, and what I did to her was as good as murder.
I focused my thoughts and sent them to Susan. Susan! Think! Who knew who the baby's father was? Who could have told them?
Her lips peeled away from her teeth.
His knife can't hurt you, I thought, though I knew damned well that no faerie magic could blithely ignore the touch of steel.
"Martin," Susan said, her voice low and very quiet. "Did you tell them about Maggie?"
He closed his eyes, but his voice was steady. "Yes."
Susan Rodriguez lost her mind.
One instant she was a prisoner, and the next she had twisted like an eel, too swiftly to be easily seen. Martin's machete opened up a long cut on her throat, but she paid as little attention to it as a thorn scratch gained while hiking.
Martin raised a hand to block the strike he thought was coming—and it was useless, because Susan didn't go after him swinging.
Instead, her eyes full of darkness and rage, her mouth opened in a scream that showed her extended fangs, she went for his throat.
Martin's eyes were on mine for a fraction of a second. No more. But I felt the soulgaze begin. I saw his agony, the pain of the mortal life he had lost. I saw his years of service, his genuine devotion, like a marble statue of the Red King kept polished and lovingly tended. And I saw his soul change. I saw that image of worship grow tarnished as he spent year after year among those who struggled against the Red King and his empire of terror and misery. And I saw that when he had come into the temple, he knew full well that he wasn't going to survive. And that he was content with it.
There was nothing I could do in time to prevent what was coming next, and I wasn't sure I wanted to. Martin said that it had taken him years and years to run a con on the Fellowship of St. Giles. But it had taken him most of two centuries to run the long con on the Red King. As a former priest, Martin must have known of the bloodline curse, and its potential for destruction. He must have known that the threat to Maggie and the realization of his betrayal would be certain to drive Susan out of control.
He'd told me already, practically the moment he had come to Chicago, that he would do anything if it meant damaging the Red Court. He would have shot me in the back. He would have betrayed Maggie's existence, practically handing her to the murderous bastards. He would betray the Fellowship to its enemies.
He would destroy Susan.
And he would die, himself.

Everything he had done, I realized, he had done for one reason: to be sure that I was standing here when it happened. To give me a chance to change everything.
Susan rode him to the stone floor, berserk with terror and rage, and tore out his throat, ripping mouthful after mouthful of flesh from his neck with supernatural speed.
Martin died.
Susan began to turn.
And that was my moment.
Martin is canonically a zealot, with everything that implies. If thats different in this AU, we have yet to learn.
Needless to say, he's not going to be exactly willing to discuss this shit just because you asked nicely.
 
Question on the parasites @DragonParadox

Now that we've seen one how viable would trapping them in essence vessels?

Essence Vessel (•)
An Essence Vessel usually takes the form of a carved gemstone about the size of a baby's fist, or
else an intricately-constructed mirror box inlaid with tiny gems and gold filigree—in either case,
the raw materials for its construction require Resources •••• or the willingness to commit a few
crimes. The Vessel, uniquely for a one-dot Prodigy, doesn't require attunement, but must still be
used by one of the Chosen. It can be activated in the moments immediately following a
monster's destruction by spending 1 Essence. The monster's dispersing supernatural powers and
soul (if it has one) are drawn into the Essence Vessel and trapped there. The monster's image can
sometimes be dimly glimpsed in the depths of the Essence Vessel. An Essence Vessel can only
hold one monster's essence at a time. This is generally used as a catalyst for magical item
crafting, but could also potentially be given to a mage for use in ritual sorcery, or simply
"dumped out" through the expenditure of another point of Essence to free up the Vessel to
capture a more lucrative target.

Not sure if this is one of the things changed for the quest in the crafting system, but these are by RaW essentially the easiest default prodigy to make and keep around.

If we could trap parasites inside and then "dump" them for MiM that'd net us one essence at the time of use.

Shotgunning the souls of vampires we personally aborted like supernatural energy drinks* feels like a very infernal thing to do. Just imagine pulling them out in front of some ramps and having a snack while they slowly realize what we're eating. :V


* While not necessary carving them to look like Red Bull cans would be a bonus too.
 
They seems to be very fragile outside a host and liable to expire. It might be that this is just inherent to their condition and it's a general bust or it might be that older ones would last long enough to make use of. Martin would be a good test case for the latter, but he seems hesitant to get rid of the thing... speaking of the present conversation.
Aren't they literally preservation tools though? It doesn't read like an Essence Vessel depends on the target being capable of holding together on their own. They can equally take souls and dispersing supernatural power from things that don't have them in the first place.
 
Aren't they literally preservation tools though? It doesn't read like an Essence Vessel depends on the target being capable of holding together on their own. They can equally take souls and dispersing supernatural power from things that don't have them in the first place.

No, but it does depend on the target lasting long enough to be trapped.

Anyway, good night guys, see you tomorrow as we wrap up the month.
 
Because being polite involves not pressing someone on something they are obviously uncomfortable about.
And because they can lie.

Specifically, OOC? Martin is a deepcover Red Court triple agent.
As in, he was a Red Court priest, turned into a half blood and sent to infiltrate the Fellowship more than a century ago.
And while he was undercover, he was radicalized into an actual Fellowship agent.

The Fellowship dont know he is supposed to be working for the Reds, and the Reds dont know he's looking for a way to destroy them. Either side could and would kill him for this.
That's pure meta though.

I don't like Molly pulling out her eldritch knowledge to peer into people's secrets at little to no provocation.
Didn't like it with that "greatest shame" Charm, don't like it with the Crown.

It's just something that I fundamentally think shouldn't be done outside of emergencies.

And since we have him here, are talking anyway with all our social boosters, it's not an emergency.
 
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