Not quite, it gives them different powers, odds are it would take them some time to adapt.
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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Not quite, it gives them different powers, odds are it would take them some time to adapt.
Ivar
Dark Reaper
- Location
- Russia Moscow
Yes, we can demand cooperation as two governments do, or in this case governments and rebels... And yes, they probably don't know yet that we are the government of Hell that plans to open a second front in the Reds' backyard.
[X] Plan first one is free
[X] Plan first one is free
- Location
- Right Where I Am
[X] Plan Slow and Steady, or Not
-[X] Still free, it will just take a while
-[X] Those who don't want to take a number, can purchase your free time.
--[X] The Fellowship has skills, knowledge, you could do with the help while setting up your operations on Earth
[X] Still free, it will just take a while
We don't hold this back, and we don't charge people to have the vampire infection that will eat them alive removed. Sure, they may have to take a number and wait, maybe we let some people pay to move ahead in line, but we do this simply because not doing it is unacceptable.
-[X] Still free, it will just take a while
-[X] Those who don't want to take a number, can purchase your free time.
--[X] The Fellowship has skills, knowledge, you could do with the help while setting up your operations on Earth
[X] Still free, it will just take a while
We don't hold this back, and we don't charge people to have the vampire infection that will eat them alive removed. Sure, they may have to take a number and wait, maybe we let some people pay to move ahead in line, but we do this simply because not doing it is unacceptable.
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Dmol8
The Undead Unhinged Lunatic of the Web
- Location
- Belgrade,Serbia
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
[X] Still free, it will just take a while
I'm with @Anaja on this one and I'm well aware this is a losing proposition in most cases. Still the right thing to do unless someone has a better idea with a write in.
Edit: See the post below.
[X] Plan Slow and Steady, or Not
-[X] Still free, it will just take a while
-[X] Those who don't want to take a number, can purchase your free time.
--[X] The Fellowship has skills, knowledge, you could do with the help while setting up your operations on Earth
I'm with @Anaja on this one and I'm well aware this is a losing proposition in most cases. Still the right thing to do unless someone has a better idea with a write in.
Edit: See the post below.
[X] Plan Slow and Steady, or Not
-[X] Still free, it will just take a while
-[X] Those who don't want to take a number, can purchase your free time.
--[X] The Fellowship has skills, knowledge, you could do with the help while setting up your operations on Earth
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- Right Where I Am
I reworked it into a write-in. Basic idea is that we dedicate some of our time to it on a constant basis, but if people want to help us with stuff, then we can dedicate even more of our time.
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
I love the stunt. Pretty much encapsulates my thoughts. We have other shit to do but are willing just not for free.
[X] Plan first one is free
-[X] The Fellowship has skills, knowledge, you could do with the help while setting up your operations on Earth
--[X] Pending other more mass-producible options, of which there might be several, but which either require testing, or expensive and hard to get reagents to setup.
--[X] As one of the options... Fetch me some napkins, please.
-[X][Stunt]"An hour of my time is becoming a more valuable commodity constantly. I have many other things that I want and need to do and many people that I am responsible for."
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- She/Her
[X] Plan first one is free
-[X] The Fellowship has skills, knowledge, you could do with the help while setting up your operations on Earth
--[X] Pending other more mass-producible options, of which there might be several, but which either require testing, or expensive and hard to get reagents to setup.
--[X] As one of the options... Fetch me some napkins, please.
-[X][Stunt]"An hour of my time is becoming a more valuable commodity constantly. I have many other things that I want and need to do and many people that I am responsible for."
-[X] The Fellowship has skills, knowledge, you could do with the help while setting up your operations on Earth
--[X] Pending other more mass-producible options, of which there might be several, but which either require testing, or expensive and hard to get reagents to setup.
--[X] As one of the options... Fetch me some napkins, please.
-[X][Stunt]"An hour of my time is becoming a more valuable commodity constantly. I have many other things that I want and need to do and many people that I am responsible for."
boo600
Ego sum egredietur tempestas.
- Location
- Texas
- Pronouns
- He/Him/Hungry
Currently undecided between votes - I like them all, especially the stunts.
I'm pretty sure he didn't use Essence.
Meaning Harry's picking up what Lash is putting down. Legendary Social Dresden, here to give the Council nightmares!
7 successes on 4 dice
Are you sure you should have granted him Essence?
I'm pretty sure he didn't use Essence.
Meaning Harry's picking up what Lash is putting down. Legendary Social Dresden, here to give the Council nightmares!
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- She/Her
Wasn't there a suggestion one of our subsouls can do something like this? Or am I misremembering. IIRC the GM said that it would maybe work compared to Ancient Sorceries Definitely, but I think its worth trying.
There is a gift of Exorcism and your sub-souls can take it, but it is not Ancient Sorcery. Molly does not know what that one would do in this case, she'd have to try it out.
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
We do have a veritable laundry list of things to do along with prior obligations, obligations of which we seem to pick up more of every other Arc. Dedicating a significant chunk of time and essence to this for free seems awfully dismissive of this, like we lack self respect and the ability to properly manage our time.
In choosing not to do so for free however we advance some of our other long-term goals while also helping out the unwilling Rampires.
In choosing not to do so for free however we advance some of our other long-term goals while also helping out the unwilling Rampires.
No, thats not accurate.
Do remember that the Fellowship only includes those people who have the strength of will to have resisted the temptations of the Curse, and still remain human.
There are people who got infected and didnt choose to fight this war, just moved to somewhere there are no Reds.
People who also do not have the strength to hold the curse at bay while fighting an insurgency. The Fellowship does not include every half-blood, and it does welcome non-halfbloods as well; St Giles is the patron saint of lepers.
Now this does not include Tiffany. Tiffany can charge the Fellowship for replacement superpowers, if anyone still wants them.
She has Flesh 5, she can gussy up a basic supersoldier suite out of fomor powers that puts them back around the same tier of power as they originally were.
Say, 3-4 Merits(Graceful + Unaging OR Prolonged Life + Nightsight + either Poison Resistance OR Antitoxin Blood)
And 3-5 powers (Armored Skin + Bestial Mutation + Regeneration + Numbing)
That basically duplicates the existing half-blood power suite.
VOTE
[X] Anaja
[X] Still free, it will just take a while
RATIONALE
Molly does not need anything from the Fellowship of St Giles besides their goodwill, and willingness to pass on information that might be of interest to her; just by existing they already make life difficult for an enemy of hers, the Red Court.
Charging them is just being a dick for no reason.
These arent rich people.
Furthermore, its worth noting the math.
Sapphire Circle Exorcism costs 5m per use. Molly regens 4m/hour when soaking in bleach.
She can spend 10m on exorcising 2 people, then spend 2.5 hours soaking in bleach to recover.
Total time is maybe 4.5 hours.
If she exorcises 2 people a night, 5 days a week, she will have exorcised 500 people in 50 weeks.
Slow and steady.
And thats the bare minimum, assuming that Sophia's Exorcism(Theurge 3 Gift) doesnt work on half bloods.
If it does, she can do batches of 10 at a time, and potentially 50 or more in a day.
She'll need healers, either Tiffany or from Sanctuary, to help with those people who are old enough that exorcising them will leave them old enough to die a natural death.
But this is all within her capabilities.
[X] Anaja
[X] Still free, it will just take a while
RATIONALE
Molly does not need anything from the Fellowship of St Giles besides their goodwill, and willingness to pass on information that might be of interest to her; just by existing they already make life difficult for an enemy of hers, the Red Court.
Charging them is just being a dick for no reason.
These arent rich people.
Furthermore, its worth noting the math.
Sapphire Circle Exorcism costs 5m per use. Molly regens 4m/hour when soaking in bleach.
She can spend 10m on exorcising 2 people, then spend 2.5 hours soaking in bleach to recover.
Total time is maybe 4.5 hours.
If she exorcises 2 people a night, 5 days a week, she will have exorcised 500 people in 50 weeks.
Slow and steady.
And thats the bare minimum, assuming that Sophia's Exorcism(Theurge 3 Gift) doesnt work on half bloods.
If it does, she can do batches of 10 at a time, and potentially 50 or more in a day.
She'll need healers, either Tiffany or from Sanctuary, to help with those people who are old enough that exorcising them will leave them old enough to die a natural death.
But this is all within her capabilities.
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And just because we ask for something in return doesn't mean we can't also help in other ways.
They have skills and knowledge. Molly has plasma cannons. I am sure an exchange can be arranged.
Let's expand the empire to include South America.
They have skills and knowledge. Molly has plasma cannons. I am sure an exchange can be arranged.
Let's expand the empire to include South America.
- Location
- Taken by the hand to a land that they understand
[X] The Fellowship has skills, knowledge, you could do with the help while setting up your operations on Earth
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
Just to be clear this isn't a vote between being payed in "goodwill" and something more tangible. It's a vote between choosing to be payed in only goodwill or something more immediately tangible along with goodwill. Just because someone pays you for services rendered does not at all mean you won't get goodwill out of it especially if your the only one offering the service.
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We have 4 clones and ~30AP per turn at last check.
Dedicating 1AP from Molly to addressing this problem doesnt actually materially impede her very much.
Furthermore, these are not rich people.
A lot of their operations, from the monks that help them gain some level of control over their demons, to the people who take risks offering safehouses and shelter, do it for free.
Susan certainly isnt paying the family raising Maggie either.
And frankly, Molly can afford to pay for any actual expertise and experts she might need.
Not that the Fellowship has much that she cant already get elsewhere.
This is Molly Carpenter, daughter of Michael. Not a blank slate PC.
I dont think the girl who has been accumulating a collection of ghouls and Whampires and spending much of her resources on sustaining them, who chose to help Lily for free w is going to turn up her nose at this issue.
Or if you want to think of this in purely pragmatic terms?
In doing this, Molly is actively bolstering an enemy of the Red Court, tying up their attention in such a way that the Reds cannot simply. The more the Fellowship ties up the Red Court's attention, the less time they have to fuck with us.
The Fellowship's primary value to Molly is in goodwill, as a threat in being to the Reds, and as a reference to other players.
Not as a resource pool.
It kinda is.
How you feel towards your doctor/hospital service is very different if you were treated for free, as compared to if they charged you a quarter of a million dollars for your hospital stay. Just like you have a different relationship with an arms dealer selling you supplies at market price, and one giving you arms and supplies for free.
Remember, this is an insurgency. These are not rich people.
They know we know they arent rich people.
It behooves us not to be a dick.
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BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
Nobody said anything about a quarter million dollars. If they were the only doctor on the planet or offering the cheapest price compared to other means I'd still be thankful. This isn't either or. Asking for something tangible for services rendered isn't being a dick when you have a list of other things you need to be doing. We aren't going to agree on that.
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Both votes result in this.
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- Location
- Right Where I Am
Opening up a second line that you can pay to use is one thing. It's like having a carpool lane on the road. I'm fine with that.
Demanding payment of some sort as a requirement for us doing this. Hell no! We are Molly Carpenter, and we are the one hope that these people have of being freed from the curse that was forced on them. Not making it available to them even if they can't pay us would be a betrayal of who we are as a person.
Demanding payment of some sort as a requirement for us doing this. Hell no! We are Molly Carpenter, and we are the one hope that these people have of being freed from the curse that was forced on them. Not making it available to them even if they can't pay us would be a betrayal of who we are as a person.
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- Nowhere
- Pronouns
- She/her
[X] Plan Slow and Steady, or Not
-[X] Still free, it will just take a while
-[X] Those who don't want to take a number, can purchase your free time.
--[X] The Fellowship has skills, knowledge, you could do with the help while setting up your operations on Earth
-[X] Still free, it will just take a while
-[X] Those who don't want to take a number, can purchase your free time.
--[X] The Fellowship has skills, knowledge, you could do with the help while setting up your operations on Earth
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
Why would they not be able to pay us. Do you even know what we'd be asking for?