Yzarc
The Spark of Madness
...I will point out that it is our demon form. To represent the Demon Empress we are becoming.
EDIT: here is the guidlines for it.
EDIT: here is the guidlines for it.
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Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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- Crossover Fantasy
Okay, I can sort of see it. Maybe not quite as in your face with the augments, but something in that direction.
I was looking around for images, and stumbled into something that could work as a variant of the nuclear boiler. Nuclear Diamond Batteries I know these things don't look impressive, but just the name is enough to create something fun from.
How about a literal diamond the size of two fists filled with hellfire and wrapped in a brass jeweler's cage, which glows stronger and pulses like a heartbeat with exertion?
The armor is otherwise a good fit for atompunk and steampunk.
If you put the place of this battery in the chest area/slot where the open flame is on the picture and remove the bulky backpack, it can work, I think.
I only intended that picture to be a reference for a steampunk knight. Nothing other than the chest boiler was supposed to be included in the actual Shintai.
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But, what about boob plate guys isn't that what really matters?
OctarineShrike
Avatar of Mandos
I got the urge to play around in warframe to see if I could come up with an aesthetic suitable for an Infernal Exalted in it. I came up with this.
View: https://imgur.com/a/WcyZGbI
View: https://imgur.com/a/WcyZGbI
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And back to being a bit to human-ish for my taste.
If you can see a recognisably human face it's not a real Demon Empress to me.
If you can see a recognisably human face it's not a real Demon Empress to me.
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Fairly sure some demons look terrifyingly beautiful.
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Demon form included.
A more atompunk version:
[] Empress of What Yet Radiates
-[] Devil Tyrant Strength +1, Dexterity +4, Stamina +1
-[] Hardened Devil Body x 4
-[] Demon Armor
-[] Swift Stride
-[] Hardiness(heat)
Seems okay to me, though I still like the lower tech version.
The Empress carries glory and terror about herself like a cloak. Her form tells the story of a war that should never have been, and the world she might yet create from it's ashes.
Her armor is a dull brass; weathered and scoured, but unbroken. Each mark subtly intersects with the others to form subtle signs, extolling her glories and world spanning will in ancient tongues for those with the eyes to see.
The armor itself speaks of terrible power and endless durability; thick plates cover the entirety of her body, with subtle hints at machinery and stranger things at the joints and seams.
At the center of the chest plate sits a diamond the size of two fists, bound in what appears to be a jeweler's cage patterned after a gyroscope. At it's heart, a virulent green ember burns.
As the infernal exerts herself the gem begins to turn, and the fire inside brighten in feverish pulses. When she has spent at least three essence the growing flame ignites into a caged star, at times almost appearing to be a slitted eye past the glare.
Just above, her helmeted head displays a carving of the infernal's face. An older, more hardened, vision of herself, but one that's still clearly recognizable; a single scar marks her visage, but no two viewers see the same one.
In her right hand she holds a sword of gleaming brass, as glorious and whole as the day she first drew it. The only sign of its long service a small charm hanging from the hilt; a simple wooden cross, no more finely made than might be done with mortal hands.
Transformation:
The infernal stands, squares her shoulders, and seems to shudder under a great weight.
Flickering lines of green light appear over her body; leaving behind the scars of battles not yet fought, and bringing the power of their victories with them.
Between one breath and the next the infernal assumes her full Shintai state, as if it was less a transformation and more a revelation of form.
Her armor is a dull brass; weathered and scoured, but unbroken. Each mark subtly intersects with the others to form subtle signs, extolling her glories and world spanning will in ancient tongues for those with the eyes to see.
The armor itself speaks of terrible power and endless durability; thick plates cover the entirety of her body, with subtle hints at machinery and stranger things at the joints and seams.
At the center of the chest plate sits a diamond the size of two fists, bound in what appears to be a jeweler's cage patterned after a gyroscope. At it's heart, a virulent green ember burns.
As the infernal exerts herself the gem begins to turn, and the fire inside brighten in feverish pulses. When she has spent at least three essence the growing flame ignites into a caged star, at times almost appearing to be a slitted eye past the glare.
Just above, her helmeted head displays a carving of the infernal's face. An older, more hardened, vision of herself, but one that's still clearly recognizable; a single scar marks her visage, but no two viewers see the same one.
In her right hand she holds a sword of gleaming brass, as glorious and whole as the day she first drew it. The only sign of its long service a small charm hanging from the hilt; a simple wooden cross, no more finely made than might be done with mortal hands.
Transformation:
The infernal stands, squares her shoulders, and seems to shudder under a great weight.
Flickering lines of green light appear over her body; leaving behind the scars of battles not yet fought, and bringing the power of their victories with them.
Between one breath and the next the infernal assumes her full Shintai state, as if it was less a transformation and more a revelation of form.
[] Empress of What Yet Radiates
-[] Devil Tyrant Strength +1, Dexterity +4, Stamina +1
-[] Hardened Devil Body x 4
-[] Demon Armor
-[] Swift Stride
-[] Hardiness(heat)
Seems okay to me, though I still like the lower tech version.
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Also in fairness to God in dresden files its sometimes explained with the elephant parable of people seeing an elephant from different angles and all being right that it's an elephant yet not the whole picture. God could easily also be the trimurti or chaos as he is the Christian God. It's called universal for a reason and we can't really see the whole picture of the universe from any angles we can reach. Also for God not doing anything well I'm not 100% sure he's fully omnipotent effectively maybe with rules he's bound to maybe. The lowest angels apparently work on a scale greater than mab the potential earth breaker so they clearly have bigger problems or simply can't act without blowing up the planet or their enemies blowing up the planet.
Vote closed. Looks like Molly is going to swallow the urge to put the fear of her into Mrs Evens. She does have Willpower 9 after all.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
Possible Shintai form;
Our body becomes a living statue of smoky, semi-translucent ice, with sections of black ice on our limbs, head, and torso giving the impression of light armor. Where our heart should be there is instead a pulsing green flame burning with malevolent, eye-searing power. Each pulse of our fiery heart sends a surge of green flame visibly racing through our icy body's circulatory system, lighting it up from within. Unlike the rest of our body, our eyes appear almost completely normal, disturbingly so compared to our otherwise inhuman appearance, the only apparent change being the iris, which now matches the hue of our burning heart.
Our body becomes a living statue of smoky, semi-translucent ice, with sections of black ice on our limbs, head, and torso giving the impression of light armor. Where our heart should be there is instead a pulsing green flame burning with malevolent, eye-searing power. Each pulse of our fiery heart sends a surge of green flame visibly racing through our icy body's circulatory system, lighting it up from within. Unlike the rest of our body, our eyes appear almost completely normal, disturbingly so compared to our otherwise inhuman appearance, the only apparent change being the iris, which now matches the hue of our burning heart.
This was what I made much earlier, don't know if its good.
Only change I would make it change Venomous to Swift-Stride.
Just quoting as the vote may come up relatively soon.
Yzarc
The Spark of Madness
Since the votes are coming up, I though I will post this here. This is regarding the mechanical advantages of the options and what would be good options. This is mu Opinion so take it with a grain of salt. But it is my reasons for why to pick the following. The fluff is choosable but the mechanics are as follows.
Shintai: Devil-Tyrant Avatar Shintai
Strength +1, Dexterity +4, Stamina +1
Demonic Aspect:
-Demon Armor: +2 Soak
-Hardened Devil Body (x4): +12 Bruised Health levels
-Hardiness (Heat): Immune to environmental or movement penalties and incidental damage from heat of any kind.
-Swift Stride: Movement speed and jumping distances are doubled.
Reasons:
Size and ease:
Devil Tyrant Avatar is human sized. What this means is that any place that Molly can enter into, she can transform in with no ill effects. So, we do not have to worry about being underground, in a building or even being in a car. We can transform with no extra difficulties due to location, size, and other such restrictions. We can also do all the things Molly can and are not penalized for it nor is her appearance reduced to 0 like in ALL the other Shintai options.
By comparison, we have Demon -Emperor which is at the minimum 12 ft tall and has stated difficulties going through a door. It's huge size also makes fine manipulation extremely difficult if not outright impossible, due to the gigantic size and what form we take.
Incarnate Apotheosis Shintai is a natural disaster such as a living sandstorm, inferno, pool of living acid studded with eyes, amorphous shadow, or swarm of demonic locusts etc. It also operates on the swarm rules found on page 391 of V20, which…..yeah. It does soak damage so there is that but still.
Then there is Devil-Beast Shintai, which is an animal form but suffers a –3 penalty to all attempts to perform fine manipulation due to its lack of proper human hands.
Stat Spread:
Then there is the Stat Spread. Devil-Tyrant Avatar is the only Shintai that offers +4 Dex.
Strength +1, Dexterity +4, Stamina +1
Dexterity is the absolute key to both avoiding getting hit and hitting enemies. You can make up strength with the Venomous Demon Aspect +3 Lethal Dice and charms like GSNF and augment stamina with Demon armor Aspect for +2 Soak and charms like VLE, but if dexterity is low, we are not going to be doing much in combat except bleeding out.
To put it simply, if we do not take max dex now, we will never be getting another Dex booster as there is no other dex booster at all.
You can also justify rolling it for just about any physical task. It encompasses gross agility, fine dexterity, general flexibility, hand-eye coordination, and running and movement, being prone etc. This especially combos well with Devil-Tyrant as the shintai can do all the things Molly Can do, so we do not loose out on any ability and instead get a flat boost on what we can do in combat.
What this means is that we roll like this.
Dex 4 + Melee 5 + Shintai 4 + Stunt 2. So 15 Dice without a Excellency in combat without needing to spend any essence and 24 dice with an Excellency. This is immediately out of the gate at E2 and will only increase once we get to Dex 5 for a max of 26 dice.
Demon Aspects:
Devil-Tyrant Avatar grants us 7 Demonic Aspects and builds off our Human form. What that means is that we can customize it as we see fit. However, it should be noted that if added to a shintai- Demon Aspects are forever locked behind the shintai. So what that in mind….
Aspects Already Gained:
Demon Weapons – Melee Sword from our Head demon.
Transcendent Anathema – By Rage Recast.
Aspects to take for the Shintai:
Demon Armor – Adds +2 Soak.
Hardiness (Heat) – immune to environmental or movement penalties and incidental damage from heat of any kind.
Swift Stride – Doubles Moment Speed and Jumping distance. Applies to Flight when we take it, so it is not rendered redundant.
Hardened Devil Body (x4) – 12 (3 x4) Bruised (–0) health levels.
We can purchase Essence Ox-Body charms in our base form and if we do not take at least 4 then our base form will have more health levels than our shintai. So, by taking it 4 times, this makes our Shintai competitive in High Essence fights as it has the Equivalent of taking x4 Ox-Body technique and can keep up with High Essence enemies that do boatloads of damage in single attacks.
With this our health levels look like this….
-0/-0/-0/-0/-0/-0/-0/-0/-0/-0/-0/-0/-0/-0/-0/-1/-1/-4/Na.
As you can see, this allows us to get hit, a LOT and fight high level opponents with a reasonable degree of failure. The point of the shintia is to act as a buffer against dying and having a ton of health levels would aide in that. Anything more then 4 is a waste as we will be getting other charms to heal/mitigate damage. But similarly, anything less then 4 makes us much more squishy then we really should be in a super mode.
In addition, we have greatly reduced wound penalties, thanks to the -0s and can put off taking Ox-body charms for our base body as they would not be that much of a Priority.
Aspects to be Gained:
Flight (levitation) – By Rage Recast (To be purchased now that we are at E2)
Venomous - +3 Lethal Attack Dice.
This is also something we can best pick up at E3 with By Rage Recast. Too useful to lock behind a shintai. E3 is also 16xp so we can get it with reasonable ease. It is also rendered kind of redundant by GSNF. So, it is optional but better to have behind By Rage Recast then lock it as a Shintai aspect.
Aspects that are too situational or are redundant:
Keen (Sense) - Lower the difficulty of all Perception rolls using that sense by 2. (Only one Sense)
All things Betray lowers, for the rest of the scene, the difficulty of all Perception (All Senses) rolls by three, to a minimum of difficulty 3, and the adds Perception to base Initiative rating (in other words, Perception + Dexterity + Wits). So rendered redundant.
Extra Limbs – No Penalty to dice pool for Multiple Actions.
This is something we may never use and if we do so is best kept outside of the shintai.
Energy Projection – Essence attacks per scene using Dexterity + Athletics at difficulty 7 at 10 yards
Our Athletics are at 1 and we can make only 2 attacks min and max of 5 IF we reach E5, though E3 is more realistic, E4 if we push things.
Even otherwise, Sandstrike Blast does the same at a lower difficulty (5), for as many times as we want and deals more damage (8) at 60 yards (6 times the distance). It is redundant.
Gills/Aquatic – Breath underwater/Move underwater at x2 speed.
Boiling Sea mastery does this much better, i.e. x3 speed and much MUCH more for 4xp. The two Aspects are redundant.
Camouflage/Stealth – Lowers difficulty by 2/adds two dice to stealth rolls.
Our Stealth is zero and unfavored. We are also not built as a Stealth Character and have no charms for it. Molly is also very much a hit it hard character. Locking it behind a shintai is not wise as we will be popping the shintai to battle enemies and Stealth, especially as undeveloped as it is, will not help. It can be useful but not with the shintai and there are charms that do this better.
Body Spikes/ Bonesmasher – Brawl power/Brawl Weapon.
We are a Melee Character with a summonable Demon Sword so we can never be disarmed. We also have 0 dots in Brawl. It also does blunt damage that Transcend Anathema cannot trigger off. So redundant by both our 5 dots in Melee, Transcend Anathema and Demon Weapon Aspect.
Flexible - The difficulty of all rolls to squeeze through tight spaces, escape from bonds, or gain control of a grapple with the intent to immediately escape from it are reduced by two.
An extremely limited version of Cracked Cell Circumvention which gives -3 difficulty and effects much more rolls. Also our Shintai is our battle form, so adding things that help in a fight is better. Rendered Redundant due to this.
Nightvision – See in the dark.
There are charms like Witness to Darkness and others that do this better and also do much more.
Horrible Odor - –1 penalty on all actions taken by anything with a sense of smell.
…..bad Body Oder. Let's avoid this as it only hits things that can smell and beings that do not like outsiders are exempt. Distance also plays a part as they have to be close to us to be effected. Too limited and penalty is too low.
Poisonous Flesh/ Sickening Slime - Anyone who bites the Infernal or drinks her blood must immediately soak three levels of lethal damage/ The difficulty of all grapple attempts against the Infernal increases to 8, and anyone who bites her loses their next turn retching.
Both are Brawl powers and are…..well disgusting and/or limited in our enemies biting us. While it can happen, we are a Melee Character and not all enemies use fangs and teeth. So extremely limited utility.
Wall Crawler/ Webbing – Climb Walls and shoot webs.
Both are redundant by the Flight Aspect we will be picking up as why run up walls if you can fly. Webbing is useful but only pared with Multi Action Aspect and it also rolls Athletics. It requires too much set up to make work and it is always better to just hit someone into unconsciousness as the enemy is given a roll to escape and high level enemies will do so reliably. This is only ever useful against mooks, and we do not need it against them.
Shintai: Devil-Tyrant Avatar Shintai
Strength +1, Dexterity +4, Stamina +1
Demonic Aspect:
-Demon Armor: +2 Soak
-Hardened Devil Body (x4): +12 Bruised Health levels
-Hardiness (Heat): Immune to environmental or movement penalties and incidental damage from heat of any kind.
-Swift Stride: Movement speed and jumping distances are doubled.
Reasons:
Size and ease:
Devil Tyrant Avatar is human sized. What this means is that any place that Molly can enter into, she can transform in with no ill effects. So, we do not have to worry about being underground, in a building or even being in a car. We can transform with no extra difficulties due to location, size, and other such restrictions. We can also do all the things Molly can and are not penalized for it nor is her appearance reduced to 0 like in ALL the other Shintai options.
By comparison, we have Demon -Emperor which is at the minimum 12 ft tall and has stated difficulties going through a door. It's huge size also makes fine manipulation extremely difficult if not outright impossible, due to the gigantic size and what form we take.
Incarnate Apotheosis Shintai is a natural disaster such as a living sandstorm, inferno, pool of living acid studded with eyes, amorphous shadow, or swarm of demonic locusts etc. It also operates on the swarm rules found on page 391 of V20, which…..yeah. It does soak damage so there is that but still.
Then there is Devil-Beast Shintai, which is an animal form but suffers a –3 penalty to all attempts to perform fine manipulation due to its lack of proper human hands.
Stat Spread:
Then there is the Stat Spread. Devil-Tyrant Avatar is the only Shintai that offers +4 Dex.
Strength +1, Dexterity +4, Stamina +1
Dexterity is the absolute key to both avoiding getting hit and hitting enemies. You can make up strength with the Venomous Demon Aspect +3 Lethal Dice and charms like GSNF and augment stamina with Demon armor Aspect for +2 Soak and charms like VLE, but if dexterity is low, we are not going to be doing much in combat except bleeding out.
To put it simply, if we do not take max dex now, we will never be getting another Dex booster as there is no other dex booster at all.
You can also justify rolling it for just about any physical task. It encompasses gross agility, fine dexterity, general flexibility, hand-eye coordination, and running and movement, being prone etc. This especially combos well with Devil-Tyrant as the shintai can do all the things Molly Can do, so we do not loose out on any ability and instead get a flat boost on what we can do in combat.
What this means is that we roll like this.
Dex 4 + Melee 5 + Shintai 4 + Stunt 2. So 15 Dice without a Excellency in combat without needing to spend any essence and 24 dice with an Excellency. This is immediately out of the gate at E2 and will only increase once we get to Dex 5 for a max of 26 dice.
Demon Aspects:
Devil-Tyrant Avatar grants us 7 Demonic Aspects and builds off our Human form. What that means is that we can customize it as we see fit. However, it should be noted that if added to a shintai- Demon Aspects are forever locked behind the shintai. So what that in mind….
Aspects Already Gained:
Demon Weapons – Melee Sword from our Head demon.
Transcendent Anathema – By Rage Recast.
Aspects to take for the Shintai:
Demon Armor – Adds +2 Soak.
Hardiness (Heat) – immune to environmental or movement penalties and incidental damage from heat of any kind.
Swift Stride – Doubles Moment Speed and Jumping distance. Applies to Flight when we take it, so it is not rendered redundant.
Hardened Devil Body (x4) – 12 (3 x4) Bruised (–0) health levels.
We can purchase Essence Ox-Body charms in our base form and if we do not take at least 4 then our base form will have more health levels than our shintai. So, by taking it 4 times, this makes our Shintai competitive in High Essence fights as it has the Equivalent of taking x4 Ox-Body technique and can keep up with High Essence enemies that do boatloads of damage in single attacks.
With this our health levels look like this….
-0/-0/-0/-0/-0/-0/-0/-0/-0/-0/-0/-0/-0/-0/-0/-1/-1/-4/Na.
As you can see, this allows us to get hit, a LOT and fight high level opponents with a reasonable degree of failure. The point of the shintia is to act as a buffer against dying and having a ton of health levels would aide in that. Anything more then 4 is a waste as we will be getting other charms to heal/mitigate damage. But similarly, anything less then 4 makes us much more squishy then we really should be in a super mode.
In addition, we have greatly reduced wound penalties, thanks to the -0s and can put off taking Ox-body charms for our base body as they would not be that much of a Priority.
Aspects to be Gained:
Flight (levitation) – By Rage Recast (To be purchased now that we are at E2)
Venomous - +3 Lethal Attack Dice.
This is also something we can best pick up at E3 with By Rage Recast. Too useful to lock behind a shintai. E3 is also 16xp so we can get it with reasonable ease. It is also rendered kind of redundant by GSNF. So, it is optional but better to have behind By Rage Recast then lock it as a Shintai aspect.
Aspects that are too situational or are redundant:
Keen (Sense) - Lower the difficulty of all Perception rolls using that sense by 2. (Only one Sense)
All things Betray lowers, for the rest of the scene, the difficulty of all Perception (All Senses) rolls by three, to a minimum of difficulty 3, and the adds Perception to base Initiative rating (in other words, Perception + Dexterity + Wits). So rendered redundant.
Extra Limbs – No Penalty to dice pool for Multiple Actions.
This is something we may never use and if we do so is best kept outside of the shintai.
Energy Projection – Essence attacks per scene using Dexterity + Athletics at difficulty 7 at 10 yards
Our Athletics are at 1 and we can make only 2 attacks min and max of 5 IF we reach E5, though E3 is more realistic, E4 if we push things.
Even otherwise, Sandstrike Blast does the same at a lower difficulty (5), for as many times as we want and deals more damage (8) at 60 yards (6 times the distance). It is redundant.
Gills/Aquatic – Breath underwater/Move underwater at x2 speed.
Boiling Sea mastery does this much better, i.e. x3 speed and much MUCH more for 4xp. The two Aspects are redundant.
Camouflage/Stealth – Lowers difficulty by 2/adds two dice to stealth rolls.
Our Stealth is zero and unfavored. We are also not built as a Stealth Character and have no charms for it. Molly is also very much a hit it hard character. Locking it behind a shintai is not wise as we will be popping the shintai to battle enemies and Stealth, especially as undeveloped as it is, will not help. It can be useful but not with the shintai and there are charms that do this better.
Body Spikes/ Bonesmasher – Brawl power/Brawl Weapon.
We are a Melee Character with a summonable Demon Sword so we can never be disarmed. We also have 0 dots in Brawl. It also does blunt damage that Transcend Anathema cannot trigger off. So redundant by both our 5 dots in Melee, Transcend Anathema and Demon Weapon Aspect.
Flexible - The difficulty of all rolls to squeeze through tight spaces, escape from bonds, or gain control of a grapple with the intent to immediately escape from it are reduced by two.
An extremely limited version of Cracked Cell Circumvention which gives -3 difficulty and effects much more rolls. Also our Shintai is our battle form, so adding things that help in a fight is better. Rendered Redundant due to this.
Nightvision – See in the dark.
There are charms like Witness to Darkness and others that do this better and also do much more.
Horrible Odor - –1 penalty on all actions taken by anything with a sense of smell.
…..bad Body Oder. Let's avoid this as it only hits things that can smell and beings that do not like outsiders are exempt. Distance also plays a part as they have to be close to us to be effected. Too limited and penalty is too low.
Poisonous Flesh/ Sickening Slime - Anyone who bites the Infernal or drinks her blood must immediately soak three levels of lethal damage/ The difficulty of all grapple attempts against the Infernal increases to 8, and anyone who bites her loses their next turn retching.
Both are Brawl powers and are…..well disgusting and/or limited in our enemies biting us. While it can happen, we are a Melee Character and not all enemies use fangs and teeth. So extremely limited utility.
Wall Crawler/ Webbing – Climb Walls and shoot webs.
Both are redundant by the Flight Aspect we will be picking up as why run up walls if you can fly. Webbing is useful but only pared with Multi Action Aspect and it also rolls Athletics. It requires too much set up to make work and it is always better to just hit someone into unconsciousness as the enemy is given a roll to escape and high level enemies will do so reliably. This is only ever useful against mooks, and we do not need it against them.
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Yzarc
The Spark of Madness
No Excellency does not ping off Shintai boosts. Same with Lunars and DBT.
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That's what DP ruled though.
Probably due to fluff. Since it is our natural form, just not our present one, brought into the present.
Yzarc
The Spark of Madness
Fair then, but I will leave it as it is until DP clarifies.
Also I do not mind your Shintai as well. If you swap venomous for Swift, I would not mind approval voting for it.
Here is the quote.
If you click it and go back, check what he answers.
Yzarc
The Spark of Madness
He withdrew it just one post below.
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He changed that ruling after reading the FAQ
Yzarc
The Spark of Madness
This is not a thing.
You can add umlimited dice but the Excellency only cares for permanent Dots on your sheet.
So you CAN have Excellency + Shintai. Just that Shintai does not get added to the Excellency.
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Okay, last try for Demon Emperor.
I do like some of the designs made, particularly those heavily armored and I think it's for the most part better than what I can think up, so I would just keep Yzark or Bronze Tongue's designs while making it taller.
Taking this stat-spread:
Strength +3, Dexterity +2, Stamina +3, Appearance 0
And an inherent 2 Dice to Soak and -1 Difficulty of all Soak Rolls.
That is 2 less Dex than most of the proposed Devil-Tyrant builds, so 2 less dice on melee-attacks and parry, but it means more damage and much more and easier Soak due to offering 2 Sta and Str more in addition to the soak-boni.
Aspects:
-Hardened Devil Body (x2): +6 Bruised Health levels
-Hardiness (Heat): Immune to environmental or movement penalties and incidental damage from heat of any kind.
-Swift Stride: Movement speed and jumping distances are doubled.
6 more Bruised levels is admittedly much less than 12, but let's compare Soak for a moment:
Right now we have 4 Soak-Dice and roll at difficulty 6. That is not much.
With Scar-Writ-Saga Shield and Viridian Legend Exoskeleton we would have 8 Dice and roll at difficulty 5.
I haven't done the proper analysis, but by my guess the average success should be around 4-5, allowing us a good chance to ignore pistols or melee-hits from people with regular human strenght, but we wouldn't be reliable in that.
With the proposed Devil Tyrant we have the following:
4 Soak Dice from Stamina, 1 from out armor, 2 from Demon Armor.
Makes 7 Dice at Difficulty 6.
Assuming we buy SWSS and VLE that increases to 12 Dice at Difficulty 5.
Average around 7 I think so we are pretty good about small-arms or regular melees, but rifles, shotguns, superhuman melees (Trolls, Gruffs) and of course mages willing to go for straight Forces-based attacks still have good chances to bring us down.
Now for the Demon Emperor.
6 Dice from Stamina, 1 from our Armor, 2 inherent to the form.
Makes 9 Dice at Difficulty 5.
Already nice, but with the must-have defensive Charms that's 16 Soak Dice at Difficulty 4.
That would be an average of 11.2 Successes. That soaks damn near everything that isn't either fuelled by serious magical power or designed to break through tank-armor. Edit: Well, or an angry Solar with a Daiklave.
Edit: To be clear, Demon Emperor might have 6 Health less, but it soaks an average of 4 more with each attack.
So unless we are one-shot it's really better on the defensive.
I do like some of the designs made, particularly those heavily armored and I think it's for the most part better than what I can think up, so I would just keep Yzark or Bronze Tongue's designs while making it taller.
Taking this stat-spread:
Strength +3, Dexterity +2, Stamina +3, Appearance 0
And an inherent 2 Dice to Soak and -1 Difficulty of all Soak Rolls.
That is 2 less Dex than most of the proposed Devil-Tyrant builds, so 2 less dice on melee-attacks and parry, but it means more damage and much more and easier Soak due to offering 2 Sta and Str more in addition to the soak-boni.
Aspects:
-Hardened Devil Body (x2): +6 Bruised Health levels
-Hardiness (Heat): Immune to environmental or movement penalties and incidental damage from heat of any kind.
-Swift Stride: Movement speed and jumping distances are doubled.
6 more Bruised levels is admittedly much less than 12, but let's compare Soak for a moment:
Right now we have 4 Soak-Dice and roll at difficulty 6. That is not much.
With Scar-Writ-Saga Shield and Viridian Legend Exoskeleton we would have 8 Dice and roll at difficulty 5.
I haven't done the proper analysis, but by my guess the average success should be around 4-5, allowing us a good chance to ignore pistols or melee-hits from people with regular human strenght, but we wouldn't be reliable in that.
With the proposed Devil Tyrant we have the following:
4 Soak Dice from Stamina, 1 from out armor, 2 from Demon Armor.
Makes 7 Dice at Difficulty 6.
Assuming we buy SWSS and VLE that increases to 12 Dice at Difficulty 5.
Average around 7 I think so we are pretty good about small-arms or regular melees, but rifles, shotguns, superhuman melees (Trolls, Gruffs) and of course mages willing to go for straight Forces-based attacks still have good chances to bring us down.
Now for the Demon Emperor.
6 Dice from Stamina, 1 from our Armor, 2 inherent to the form.
Makes 9 Dice at Difficulty 5.
Already nice, but with the must-have defensive Charms that's 16 Soak Dice at Difficulty 4.
That would be an average of 11.2 Successes. That soaks damn near everything that isn't either fuelled by serious magical power or designed to break through tank-armor. Edit: Well, or an angry Solar with a Daiklave.
Edit: To be clear, Demon Emperor might have 6 Health less, but it soaks an average of 4 more with each attack.
So unless we are one-shot it's really better on the defensive.
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