Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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These people may not be enthralled just tricked. It is worth keeping in mind that when someone shouts 'fire' down a tunnel that may be setting someone up.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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Are we in a trap again? Because it seems like the enemy is being very cooperative in putting us in traps.
Not quite, you are outside the trap, you did not get hit by the light spell and since you saw through the glamor they do not have a surprise round.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
[x] Kill the leech things so Tiffany can hopefully save both the wardens being attacked
-[x][Stunt]A sword is not your preferred tool of surgery for getting leaches off of someone, but you are in a hurry and Tiffany should be able to heal them so long as you act quickly even if not all their injuries are from the leaches.
I would spend for extra soak, but we have Tiffany right here which gives a lot of margin of of error.
-[x][Stunt]A sword is not your preferred tool of surgery for getting leaches off of someone, but you are in a hurry and Tiffany should be able to heal them so long as you act quickly even if not all their injuries are from the leaches.
I would spend for extra soak, but we have Tiffany right here which gives a lot of margin of of error.
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fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
I don't think that leaches should need a melee exilancy for us to cut them up well wet. Small things like that have few health levels and they are not described as armored.
Really hope that the wizards can manage the counter spelling for at least a round. We have 4 trying to stop 5. But one of the 4 is part of the senior council so that should be enough.
They might put up a force field rather than counterspelling.
Really hope that the wizards can manage the counter spelling for at least a round. We have 4 trying to stop 5. But one of the 4 is part of the senior council so that should be enough.
They might put up a force field rather than counterspelling.
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Here's what we have:
There were 7 here, only Peabody knew at the start but he's had enough time to at least tell the rest on site.
He's clearly not present right now but it's theoretically possible he got more people to come in. Should have been at least as problematic to arrange for him as us.
I'm not sure I understand what's happening here overall though:
I assume Yuki and Phil are the two wardens wrestling with super leaches, but how are we supposed to parse the rest of this comment?
If the five figures are conspirators shouldn't the critters getting the loyalists have been a good thing? What does that have to do with the trap failing? If they meant us reaching them it still doesn't make sense, because what spoiled their ambush was Molly catching the veil and McCoy announcing it to them.
If they're say dupes hypnotized into thinking we're the enemy aligned with whoever is attacking their friends then why weren't they trying to help them? Sure mental influence is a thing, but Wizards are stubborn and have deep self awareness; the weirder you make them act by their own standards then more likely they are to snap. Either out of your control or to start foaming at the mouth on the floor.
Triage would be one reason to fight you before dealing with the leeches, especially if they cannot tell how bad off their friends are, they do not have super senses remember.
@DragonParadox do we have any way to tell if the leaches are summons or some similar entity that we can snack on with MiM? That factors into if we want to kill them personally or not.
Maybe they're carrying around, but that's a bit like calling running at someone with a loaded gun hidden behind your back setting a trap for them.
Weren't they here before us setting up a trap? We saw the veil they were using before reaching them and they already had a standing effect up.
Maybe they're carrying around, but that's a bit like calling running at someone with a loaded gun hidden behind your back setting a trap for them.
They are CoD and given the speed with which they show up spirits seem likely.
Oh yeah, they were definitely waiting for someone or something, question is if they are being pushed into attacking a Senior Council Member by appeal to hurt friends.
Don't assume the enemy is always prepared rather than doing the best they can with what they have
Good night guys.
I was assuming that the two floor wardens were already occupied when we showed up, but maybe the conspirators hid those things here and set up the leaches to drop on the wardens specifically to cause this outcome.
Hell, Peabody has done so much ridiculous bullshit here maybe he's also put contingent assassination summons on random wardens so he can disrupt them in combat by randomly killing people.
Sure he's well positioned, but if he managed to pants the senior council and run off to plant pipe bombs in their basement because he got uncovered and had an unknown amount of time before retaliation hit then he might as well be arbitrarily prepared.
Hell, Peabody has done so much ridiculous bullshit here maybe he's also put contingent assassination summons on random wardens so he can disrupt them in combat by randomly killing people.
That's a little hard to buy when Peabody appears to have brushed off every other wizard on the planet.
Sure he's well positioned, but if he managed to pants the senior council and run off to plant pipe bombs in their basement because he got uncovered and had an unknown amount of time before retaliation hit then he might as well be arbitrarily prepared.
[X] Kill the leech things so Tiffany can hopefully save both the wardens being attacked
-[X] Attempt to use MiM
Since Molly could use the essence and DP indicated the leeches might have delicious souls.
-[X] Attempt to use MiM
Since Molly could use the essence and DP indicated the leeches might have delicious souls.
1)Two terms: Concentration of force.
Which allows the murderball to move fast and roll over opposition quickly, instead of getting stalled by traps or a lot of mooks or a big miniboss. Molly could have literally picked up everybody with MHM and sprinted at ~70mph down the tunnels at need.
I've said it before, and I will repeat, if the B-team you just detached run into a mistwraith, they are screwed.
If Peabody and his alchemist friends drop a gas cloud in the tunnels, the B-team has no recourse; Sophia is immune to poison, but she does not cure it for others.
2)Go back and read Turn Coat's final confrontation again.
You dont kill mistwraiths, you banish them or you run the fuck away.
I will repeat, of the five hundred or so wizards present for Morgan's trial, only seven wizards were of any use against it.
This is also true with Walkers, and people like Nicodemus shrug off attempts to kill them.
This is an established Dresdenverse fact: For some categories of opponent, you must be this tall to ride.
Exalts, and Solaroids in particular, get to break those rules, but we have only one Infernal.
Who is not with the B-team any more.
And Peabody canonically had a deathstone-infused mistwraith.
3)
You are unknowingly engaging in double think here.
You are arguing that our antagonist is simultaneously dangerous and powerful enough to get past the wards of the original Merlin and generations of wizards since to destroy the fae-constructed Hidden Halls in the next few minutes and so must be confronted IMMEDIATELY no matter the cost.
But you are also suggesting they are also simultaneously so weak that the B-team can stop them and their allies and dupes and mind-controlled thralls, including the Captain of the Wardens Anastacia Luccio, from carrying out their goal.
Nevermind that they have successfully neutralized the Senior Council somehow.
Im sorry, but I honestly cant see how you persuaded yourself into this situation.
The conspiracy was 54 wizards; 49 or so now.
Their dupes and mind-controlled thralls were not included in that number.
I exhausted myself pointing this out yesterday and into this morning.
Yes, Im still salty about that
COMMENTARY
Tiffany has both Resistance to Illusion and Supernatural Awareness
She would have seen through that trap even if noone else did.
Ah. A staged provocation. We have a bunch of dupes, and a probable puppetmaster at the back. And even the puppetmaster might not be in his right mind. Putting them down nonlethally gets us intel and directions.
I wonder what lies they were told that made them desperate enough to square up against a Senior Council member.
If we can get a clear enough look at these guys, we can determine if they are on our list of mind-controlled thralls.
Would be nice to know.
Doesnt prevent them from being dupes who were lied to, or whammied recently.
Golem-suit, eh?
Im guessing thats a notAlanson, just magic; I dont have my list of spells at hand, but I think there may be something similar in MTA Enlightened Grimoire.
The assignment, for those who forget, is to
Any wizards we kill are a net loss to the Council and to the world; wizards take decades to train.
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VOTE
[X] Kill the leech things so Tiffany can hopefully save both the wardens being attacked
-[X]Molly: Attempt to use MiM
-[X]Tiffany: Lore of Light 1 AoE on enemy wizards
RATIONALE
1) Killer spirit constructs like this can potentially gain power from killing others.
And if they get done with their victims, they'll probably turn on more people.
Eliminate the threat immediately.
2) Putting down the leeches might get the other wizards to stop fighting, since it was the attack on those two that is being used as justification for their attack
3) Permakilling them might trigger MiM for Essence recovery and allow Molly to use Essence more freely
Tiffany can cast Lore of Light for blinding and bashing damage.
Any damage she does is bashing, so she can KO them, but it has to roll over to lethal to kill people.
She can potentially KO them all non-lethally even before anyone else gets to act in the first place.
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[X] Uju32
Worth a shot, but the light trap implies a light focused wizard. They might end up uniquely suited to doing something about it.
No we would have met theses wizards immediately and engaged with them so that's just not true and combat happens in three to six second intervals having 20 people doesn't make combat move faster this "Conflict" even with less people will be finished in less than 15 seconds if we were the only ones here with the help we have if this takes that long I'd be surprised. We gain very little to nothing in terms of speed being such a large group.
Morgan is a Combat Wizard for some reason with his experience and the back up given I Think it'll be fine.
Article: Warden Luccio recognized him as being one of relatively few people qualified to take on Nicodemus Archleone in Harry Dresden's place. Morgan was even more capable in pitched battle, recognised as a war hero for his efforts in Proven Guilty, cutting down a Duke and two Counts of the Red Court who simply got between Morgan and the Red King.[5] This led to a commendation from Queen Titania of the Summer Court, wherein he was inducted into the Order of the Silver Oak, a high honour of the Summer Court.[6] Other examples of his accomplishments include wiping out forty zombies with minimal effort inside a minute.
The Mistfiends in a room of 600 targets in pitch black darkness and near complete element of surprise in total mange to kill less than a tenth of the people there before they are are captured in less than three seconds. The only reason they weren't killed on the spot is because there were people that would also die in the nearby area and chaos was abounding not because it was impossible.Turn Coat Chapter 48 said:
Something being made by the fae is largely irrelevant. You really don't need to destroy the entire place to collapse a building and I think you know that. Something being Hardy or having lasted a long time it does not make it immune to having its fucking supports broken.
Wizard are hellish on things that can't fight back especially Inanimate near homogeneous Matter. The strength of the Wizards Shaking this massive castle is largely in-question what they are doing and the danger it poses if it continues isn't.
The argument isn't that they're strong it's that we can already feel the effects of what they're doing and if they continue which they could literally every round it takes for us to get to the white Council that it might not matter how far we get if they get lucky enough uninterrupted.
For some reason in my mind large buildings shaking at weird intervals isn't good for a large variety of reasons and this one's a bit post Hawk but it's shook just now in the scene we're in so it's like they are still very obviously breaking apart this building like it's not even a question that they're doing that.
They are different groups of wizard presumably with different talents because that's exactly how Wizards work. One group of the Wizards being able to somehow keep out Captain Lucio isn't the same as this wizard working destructive Magic on a building almost by design that would be true if for no other reason in the areas of study would be completely different.
You are the one who's conflating these would have to be individuals with being all of them are simultaneously capable of everything that is going on here when that is demonstrably not true. I'm also like you making the assumption that Wizards are mostly human so being shot at and hit by guns and a massive robot and Morgan who has been killing Wizards since God knows when might be enough for them.
Edit:good plan though
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I gotta admit, playing a moral Infernal (read: one who doesn't go around snacking on souls for Essence with abandon) is hard on the Essence reserves, but hopefully we can fill up the tank here on some morally acceptable snacks.
Dresden: What do you mean you need to take an hour break in a cup of bleach?
Molly: Well, I don't eat humans, and most non-Creatures of Darkness are too morally fraught. I'll be willing to eat some Outsiders if you have any at hand, but if I have to fight for it I'll be treading water in terms of Essence.
Dresden: So you want us to... bring you live Outsiders for you to eat.
Molly: Or Creatures of Darkness! But they have to be morally acceptable. No brainwashed minions. Ethical conundrums make me queasy, and I'm hungry enough already.
Lydia: You know, I could make some ghosts for you to eat... kill enough sapients, and one will become a ghost eventually!
Molly: Who are the ghosts sourced from? I don't care what form they're in, I only accept ethically-sourced food in my diet. By which I mean food that's ethically correct to murder and consume for power.
Dresden: *reconsidering whether Vampires are truly the worst supernatural creatures to feed*
I gotta admit, playing a moral Infernal (read: one who doesn't go around snacking on souls for Essence with abandon) is hard on the Essence reserves, but hopefully we can fill up the tank here on some morally acceptable snacks.
Dresden: What do you mean you need to take an hour break in a cup of bleach?
Molly: Well, I don't eat humans, and most non-Creatures of Darkness are too morally fraught. I'll be willing to eat some Outsiders if you have any at hand, but if I have to fight for it I'll be treading water in terms of Essence.
Dresden: So you want us to... bring you live Outsiders for you to eat.
Molly: Or Creatures of Darkness! But they have to be morally acceptable. No brainwashed minions. Ethical conundrums make me queasy, and I'm hungry enough already.
Lydia: You know, I could make some ghosts for you to eat... kill enough sapients, and one will become a ghost eventually!
Molly: Who are the ghosts sourced from? I don't care what form they're in, I only accept ethically-sourced food in my diet. By which I mean food that's ethically correct to murder and consume for power.
Dresden: *reconsidering whether Vampires are truly the worst supernatural creatures to feed*