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Why would we tell anyone that we have it? Why would they assume we have it?
Using Occam's razor intellectus is not assumed by anyone because it is likely one of the least obvious answers.
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Using Occam's razor intellectus is not assumed by anyone because it is likely one of the least obvious answers.
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fae who don't have intellectus know shit they shouldn't all the fucking time often thats just cause their so old that they know the right questions to come to the right conclusions and this applies for a lot of supernatural beings. Intellectus is such a niche subject considering how rare it is that the idea does not occur to harry half the time when people know shit they shouldn't.
Or they're non-human and so not being paid in human money.
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thats very doubtful that'd place this girl as something utterly non human and shes very clearly some kind of human.
Not really, they could be something that can assume non-human form that her father has some power over or pays in other means.
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Asking about lineage might not be as focused as y'all would prefer, but it seems like it could get us the most relevant information for a single question, IMO.
If we ask about the intentions of Lydia's father, we could learn that he has no actual plans involving Daniel or our family, but completely miss that he's a White Court Vampire, or that Lydia's mother is Fae.
Just because he doesn't have plans for Daniel doesn't mean that he hasn't relaxed the constraints on Lydia because she'll soon be needing to feed her Hunger Demon to awaken her full potential as a Vampire.
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If we establish a sufficient reputation for knowing things we have no basis to know, things that would be utterly ridiculous for us to know, people in the supernatural community are going to make theories.
We reach the threshold people can credibly theorize we have intellectus, people are going to start trying to plan around it. Delaying or preventing this means making good practice for laundering our crown knowledge into a habit.
Quoting from Wikipedia's article on Ultra for examples of what I mean
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no thats just very doubtful in general thats so beyond rare and unlikely its insane.
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okay once we are known enough in the supernatural community people are gonna know or maybe they wont fuck I'm not sure the average person knows a skinwalker has an intellectus heck even dresden doesn't know and they've existed for millennia. Its not even an obscure thing hidden its just people don't generally know everything. Heck if we fucking advertised it not everyone would know as information transferring isn't perfect.
Not really, there are plenty of supernatural creatures available for hire out there, from Monoc Security to the svartaelves.
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monoc security has plenty of humans you know and Svar(insert correct spelling) don't do body guarding period. If someone has supernatural guards good chance their fucking important and hiding that is hard.
We havent paid XP for either the shield or armor.
I'd contest that.
Bleach was called out as equivalent to Pentex runoff, and we use bleach to sterilize white clothes, swimming pools and drinking water. Molly could walk into the kitchen, grab her mothers baking soda and dump into a bath and make something toxic enough to fuck with people's skin. And we still use baking soda to cook.
Bathwater runoff will make you sick if you drink it, and will poison farmland and riverwater without the need for industrial pollutants.
No small amount is good for you. Compared to bleach.
Essential oils are generally safe in bathwater, but can cripple or kill you if ingested, splashed on a mucous membrane or even added in too high a concentration to the bathwater.
1 teaspoon of pure eucalyptus oil if ingested can be fatal.
Camphor oil is safe applied topically or in small amounts to bathwater, and even if inhaled in small amounts, but will kill you if swallowed, and is unsafe if alrge amounts of vapor are inhaled; 3-5ml of 20% camphor oil is potentially lethal if ingested.
Thats why you are supposed to use these things in drops.
But ultimately, this is your judgement call.
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[X] Just go out and have fun
-[X] Take Lydia to an arcade where she can play some video games, against people and machines. And Daniel can try to win her a prize.
-[X] Stunt: Steer the group to machines and games which could surreptitiously reveal whether or not Lydia possesses unusual or even superhuman physical skills and attributes such as speed, strength, dexterity, etc.
IC, I dont think there's anything throwing up red flags that would motivate Molly to dig further.
So I'd leave it here.
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the very fact we asked ourselves said question in character kinda proves molly would ask dude. If the answer is nothing we don't disturb the privacy beyond names and thats it. We have a magic question maker the hesitancy of using it is a bit annoying like are we gonna do this EVERY SINGLE TIME or are we gonna wait until something bad actually happens to use it?
Edit: Also in character bitch doesn't know mario thats a red flag! Dresden knows mario and he can't even use electronics.
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OctarineShrike
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That word of Jim was about Shagnasty specifically. Shagnasty has intellectus about the most effective ways of torturing people. And a supermajority of people who can theorize he has even that level of intellectus can be presumed dead because Shagnasty was torturing them.
Shagnasty does not act in a fashion encouraging people to suspect broad spectrum intellectus or even limited intellectus. The people who can theorize limited intellectus are mostly dead and unable to establish Shagnasty as having a reputation for knowledge.
Lacking broad spectrum intellectus, Shagnasty is unable to use it for establishing a reputation for knowing things they shouldn't.
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fairly sure he never said that was shagnasty exclusive just that shagnasty had it. They weren't exactly special as far as the species went I don't think.
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Maybe. But again, that comes back to the sort of Resources required to pay for that many bodyguards for that long.
And when combined with the expense of moving residence every four month or so for over a decade, that points at very rich people.
Both in the mortal and supernatural sense.
Possible but unlikely.
Both Monoc Security and the svartalfar are Not Cheap.
Being able to afford their services, in cash or kind, would still place you in the supernatural 0.01%
Just look at Dresden himself, whose mother somehow extracted a promise from the Leanansidhe to protect him, and see how....expansively that was interpreted.
Her having bodyguards that apparently dont play sidhe games and arent as independent as Gard stands out.
I do not agree.
1)Molly has not been characterized as the sort to pry into every fucking thing. Nor is she paranoid.
Specifically, this is her brother's paramor. She's met her, she thinks there's some things that are odd, but nothing strikes her as dangerous.She's the Big Sister, but she's not inclined to pry just for the sake of curiosity.
It will take more before she starts examining the girl's lineage.
2)Dresden was not always a wizard, dude.
His magic activated when he was 10, around 1985.
First Mario game was in 1981.
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2: thats fair still you know impressive not to know. Though also in fairness fairly sure dresdens dad died when he was 6 so not sure he had much time for games especially in the orphanage unsure when he got out of that.
Now for 1 this isn't that invasive if their non supernatural we will get some names we'd probably get in the coming months at worst its not personal like asking what her interests are heck if she doesn't know we can help her later on. Also again your kinda wrong even if shes not that nosy she is you know asking these questions herself real time in character? Like this isn't a debate she literally had the question in her head the idea occurred arguing its ooc is kind of stupid.
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OctarineShrike
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Does that really change anything? Assuming all skinwalkers possess the same intellectus, none of them can plausibly cultivate the reputation for ridiculous knowledge we can.
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well yes cause we're probably gonna encounter one eventually and its nice to establish canon. Also if your wrong or possibly wrong I'm gonna note it even if its not very important for the conversation now. If I'm wrong about something point it out to me I don't want to prorogate incorrect information that stuff can stick. Sorry thats its annoying you extrapolating something from something else with no real basis and I'm making note of it.
It should also be noted that magic and thus the techbane does not go from 0 to cannon Harry instantly. It used to be a lot easier for him to go to the movies when he was younger. As long as he did not cast in the room with the controller it is conceivable for Harry to play games into his early teens.
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true though in fairness harry was busy being poor and abused and an orphan for a lot of that time. Presumably hes better at star wars knowledge cause he could watch outside from a distance and well movies don't take that long. Not saying he couldn't play anything harry and disclosable income is not a thing harrys ever had though.
Pentex runoff is super deadly, like that is the company that sells how to murder your parents dolls. They are what caption planet bad guys wish they where. And raw bleach is super deadly if you immerse yourself in it for any length of time. You not going to find a human that can survive being submerged in bleach for a few hours. Assume it has to fatal withing minutes to trigger the charm.
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in fairness pentex probably isn't owned by baali vampires, wyrm infected werewolves, demons, and other nasty spirits and such here. Though it'd be funny if its run by some black court, white court, red court, demons, and nemesis infected here.
We spent an Excellency on getting the girl to talk.
We rolled 7 successes on a dice pool of 12, in geting her to give us her life story.
Thats supernatural levels of persuasiveness for us, with supernatural levels of success.
And in all that talk she has raised no obvious red flags. Thats enough.
There's reasonable caution, and there's paranoid intrusion. Going more is pretty clearly the second, and is wildly out of character.
This is Molly.
She didnt ask Daniel about this girl even when she suspected he had a girlfried, because she didnt want to pry.
It took him sleeping over and then getting grilled by Charity for her to decide it was permissible to ask.
As for all this talk of names and stuff? This is a game.
OOC, we arent going to win it by spamming Crown of Eyes actions, even if just for Doylist reasons.