Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
True but that is that and this is this.
We should be getting a lot of xp, so we need to think strategically. I was thinking to buy sinner boiling stare (we lack ranged offensive options), Life denying curse and seeing is blindness. In combination that's something that's basically shuts down a lot of stuff remotely. It's a lot of xp, however.
Other things I am interested in this turn are Endless Torment Emanation, maybe start of prayer eating. Some of the alchemy 4 recipes so we can share them with our kingdom. Maybe finishing off alchemy / getting it to 5 dots.
We should probably buy more mana manipulation for Olivia. Lydia has a lot of stuff that would be helpful in her growth. All depends on how many xp we are getting.
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I mean, is it though? We're still making a new person out of materials native to this reality cluster and our essence with the power of an Exalted, so I don't see why that wouldn't end up going the same way nature wise.
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
The means would be the same(probably) the result different. Would every living thing made by Molly operate with Exalted setting flavor taking priority? Dragons are a thing in the DF setting too.
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So are gods? Given they're crafted by the Creation born soul of a nascent primordial though… I would consider that they would operate on that paradigm, unless something else had enough of a hand in the crafting?
Like, no matter the materials used, a Smith can only craft in the styles they know? So unless she follows someone else's plans in the working, I don't know how she could end up with anything but a Creation style being?
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So do we get the crown questions later?
They are in the update, I just had Molly remember them instead of putting them in verbatim
1)No I am not.
The text speaks for itself. The Ebon Road is not an unchanging environment, and the writeup I went to the trouble to provide for you explicitly speaks on how hazards like Spectres and the Unfaced can differ in density.
2) No it is not. I checked.
Making that claim implies you either didnt check, or you are misremembering.
Flight is Rare among these people. Wingless flight even rarer.
Akuma and kueijin dont get flight without either a winged demon shintai, Jade Shintai 4 over a leyline, Storm Shintai 4 in the real world with sufficient wings to lift a person, or a Yama King Investment that gives them that winged demon power in their normal forms, and at that you're looking at 25mph IIRC.
Demon servitors who fly are winged but relatively slow.
Fae beasts do not appear to exist in Yomi Wan, and very few of them fly without wings; those that do are themselves associated with Big Fish. Like Sleipnir/Odin, the Reindeer/Kringle.
It may be a moot point now, but I'd like to correct the record.
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Sandstrike Blast is faster to use, cheaper to use routinely, the targeting roll is DC5, it has both single target and Fuck That Football Field modes, and its AoE mode has a range that is Line of Sight.
As a ranged offense buy, its well ahead of the other contenders IMO with regards for priority.
Sinner Boiling Stare is a perfect attack, but it costs motes per use, and only targets a single person at a time.
The weapon charm is more flexible and has a way higher high end for things like cracking high end defenses, or making armies go away, but would require Molly investing in Firearms to use it in anything other than an AoE fashion.
Oh, and Sandstrike Blast is the cheapest to buy.
Sandstrike Blast: 2 dots unfavored: 8xp
Sinner Boiling Stare: 3 dots unfavored: 12xp
Principle Invoking Onslaught :3 dots unfavored: 12xp
Flight of Obsidian Butterflies: spell: 10xp
Essentially, we could buy Sandstrike Blast, and still have 2xp to spend on raising Abilities, or to spend on an Ox-Body or Rage Recast Aspect. The value proposition is stark.
Base Shikome, Kumo Huntresses and Raksha of Ravana have 7HLs. However:
Children of Tou Mu: 8HL
Fat-Striders of the Hell of Boiling Oil: 8HL
Demons of Iron and Violence of Mikaboshi: 13HL
Corpse-Tiger Demons of Wu Hua: 15HL
Even a base Fomor only needs the Huge Merit and one iteration of the Numb mutation to be running around with 11HLs under combat situations.
Langtry is an old Senior Council-tier wizard who has been a target for older than Molly's father has been alive.
I would not be surprised if he has something like Kattrin's final spell in his back pocket to help soak unsoakable attacks.
Not a perfect, but something similar.
People of that tier likely have similar tricks to survive the kind of aggro they tend to pull.
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Not that it matters, but under these conditions Transcendent Lord of Flies would have activated for that conversation.
Bringing the DC down to 3. So instead of rolling 12 successes, Molly would have rolled 16.
Nergui has Dragon Tears 2? Huh.
That means he has Dragon Tears 1, which means he has both prophetic dreams, and recognizes persons of potential importance in the Great Cycle. That explains certain things.
The Death-Aspected Exigent was triggered by some of the things she saw along a path that explicitly perverts death.
Pretty predictable, and one of the self-evident reasons to have avoided it.
Im getting the impression Arawn hasnt been here, or didnt tell her about it.
And we tripped the random encounter roll. Also as predicted.
And hence, Molly is about to be down 15% of her Essence pool even before getting to the Wicked City, because we deliberately chose to pick the approach path that would run us into conflict.
We certainly cant stand around and fight; that will cost us more Essence which we may or may nor replenish with Murder is Meat, and the Essence expenditure of a fight would have Molly glowing for the rest of the scene, and that would both attract more predators, and give her presence away to absolutely Everyone.
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QUESTION
1) The zombie template in ExWoD doesnt have a set movement speed.
Whats the movement speed of Lydia's Hands in this AU?
Can they keep up with her, or would Molly be leaving them behind if she only picked up Lash and Lydia?
2) How many Hands did Lydia bring? What do they weigh?
This is with regards to Molly doing Mind-Hand Manipulation calculations.
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- Technically they are as fast as a human, practically though they do not get tired which means they can just sprint at their top speed, which may or may not be faster than the horrifically faceless entities coming at you.
- She brought six of them, each weights 180 lbs
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Offhand is the hope bomb dangerous to our group? Could we just rank the blast or do we need to put a timer?
None of you are denizens of Yomi so no, it will not do anything to you.
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1)They are Dexterity 2, so top speed sprint is 20 +(Dex2*3) = 26 yards/3 seconds = ~9 yards.
Thats not quite mortal maximum. Not gonna be enough.
The Unfaced are explicitly called out for their speed, and we see the Unfaced run down mandarin-class kuejin.
2) Six of them means a thousand pounds.
Which means that we're going to need to roll 6 successes on our Mind-Hand Manipulation activation roll.
Fortunately, both Without Honor and TLF should apply to that, so we roll 13 dice (Intelligence 4 + Occult 5 + Without Honor 2 + Stunt 2) at DC3, which should be an average of 10 successes.
Still costs us Essence, but no alternative at this point, since we're activating it to carry Lash and Lydia anyway.
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Good good I asked cause well its basically a one use artifact and who knows how powerful the blast alone would be.
VOTE
[X] Try to outrun them
[X] Mind-Hand Manipulation to carry Lash + Lydia + Lydia's Hands
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Molly is Strength 4, which translates to a lifting capacity of 400 pounds.
While she could lift both Lash and Lydia while running, it leaves her no hands free if they run into something in their path that needs a quick shanking. And running will leave Lydia's Hands behind; they cant outrun Unfaced.
So she needs Mind-Hand Manipulation.
Intelligence 4 + Occult 5 + Without Honor 2 + Stunt 2 = 13 dice
Transcendent Lord of Flies: -3DC
13 dice at DC3 is an average of 10 successes, which should translate to a carrying capacity of 6000 pounds.
6x Hands = 1080 pounds
Lydia + Lash, at an average of 170 pounds each(American female average) = 340 pounds
Total: ~1400 pounds
Plus it leaves additional capacity for Molly to lift Nergui(<200 pounds) AND his horse(~1000 pounds) if necessary.
In case anyone slips while running from pursuit.
[X] Try to outrun them
[X] Mind-Hand Manipulation to carry Lash + Lydia + Lydia's Hands
RATIONALE
Molly is Strength 4, which translates to a lifting capacity of 400 pounds.
While she could lift both Lash and Lydia while running, it leaves her no hands free if they run into something in their path that needs a quick shanking. And running will leave Lydia's Hands behind; they cant outrun Unfaced.
So she needs Mind-Hand Manipulation.
Intelligence 4 + Occult 5 + Without Honor 2 + Stunt 2 = 13 dice
Transcendent Lord of Flies: -3DC
13 dice at DC3 is an average of 10 successes, which should translate to a carrying capacity of 6000 pounds.
6x Hands = 1080 pounds
Lydia + Lash, at an average of 170 pounds each(American female average) = 340 pounds
Total: ~1400 pounds
Plus it leaves additional capacity for Molly to lift Nergui(<200 pounds) AND his horse(~1000 pounds) if necessary.
In case anyone slips while running from pursuit.
[X] Try to outrun them
This is probably the best option, but if they're expecting a raid then they may still have something waiting for us. We'll need an arrival strategy.
This is probably the best option, but if they're expecting a raid then they may still have something waiting for us. We'll need an arrival strategy.
No. We deploy pollen from the flower and will keep it afterwards.
So you're thinking too many things to buy to make Sorcery worth the XP?
Also, while SBS is good, I think SSB is the better purchase because it's cheaper XP wise, and can be used in multiple ways.
Sure, it doesn't hit with Agg, but can't have everything, and we can buy SBS next time, hopefully.
[X] Try to outrun them
[X] Mind-Hand Manipulation to carry Lash + Lydia + Lydia's Hands
Her temporary boosts are scenelong.
Which means they would have worn out by now. The longerterm ones cost Faith to use.
No one who remembers the exalts is going to be excited about their return. Especially people who are working from the perspective of gods, who had to deal with getting jerked by their nonsense.
I don't think it's as direct as that; ExWoD presumes they're mega dead. That's not necessarily the truth here, but I'm thinking it's more likely to fall on the "incoherent fragments" side of things than all the cycles of the wheel having no effect beyond the same basic effect as the original primordial war.
If it does have some relationship I think it qualifies as an energy field larger than a terrestrial's head. Maybe an infernal heretic could do it because it's directly in their themes and they're solar world titans, but I don't know if I'd bet on that.
The original context for this was building it to specifically empower mortals and sending it to live with the Shih. The monks probably wouldn't see it that way, but Dragons are notoriously proud and have a complex about humans because they were part of what sparked their displacement from positions of authority over creation.
Personal opinion?
Splintered Gale Incarnation, 5 dots unfavored. Sandstrike Blast, 2 dots unfavored.
28XP.
Anything else depends on what we have left after it.
I assured someone here I'd vote for SGI at the next arc end in order to get their votes last turn, and I try to keep my word.
Plus, its the best Signature Charm option we have.
And given our actions in Boston, its more or less mandatory anyway.
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Tree's Many Branches is a neat multi attack that might be worth swapping for life denying spite. It outperforms regular multi attack charms in a couple ways, though it doesn't have as high a cap.
I don't recall where the debate ended on that one, but I'm pretty sure your interpretation of how the signature of that one works has been consistently shot down by DP. The free temporary clones are basically useless.
They get no equipment, no use of Molly's charms, and we have to repurchase any sorcery we want them to use as a mortal ability because they can't use it like we do.
We've had lengthy debates on the clone issue and have a variant cooking in our custom charm set. I don't think we should just take the baseline charm.
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I want either SGI or VEE, personally. I'm fine with picking up either of those, bit SGI seems more popular. I'm also hoping to buy up a few skills, because if we aren't taking politics or law I'd feel a law better with a bit more leadership to help with delegation.
I don't particularly want the signature, but the charm is really useful and honestly just cool.
I don't particularly want the signature, but the charm is really useful and honestly just cool.
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I mean I don't think it'd do the same thing in the future so kinda still one use.