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Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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From what I can see that's how attunement usually works in exalted. Committing motes is like diverting part of your essence income. If you don't touch the item at least once a day the connection breaks and you get the income back.
Here's a rpg stack exchange thread that references the rules.
Like I said, the 1E version is better:
DARK RIDER
These miniature figurines come in a variety of forms, most commonly human or animals, occasionally depicted with armor or weapons(if appropriate). When inactive, they appear to be expensive knick-knacks or decorations
The Chosen must spend 10m of Essence to activate the dark rider. When activated, the figurines shadow grows and replaces the Exalted's own, riding along with her for the scene. The sight is disturbing to those unaccustomed to such unusual displays and gives the Exalt two extra dice in Intimidation or Leadership rolls with mortals who witness the merger. While the dark rider serves as the Exalt's shadow, she can see around herself with perfect clarity, making it impossible to sneak up on her without the use of Charms for concealment and stealth.
The Exalt can send her dark rider-shadow away to spy on a person or location, leaving her without a shadow until the scene ends or the rider returns. The riders moves at a speed equal to the Exalt's Willpower in yards per turn, or it can ride in another's shadow, travelling along with him. The Exalted can see through the rider's eyes at will. When she does so, both ehr eyes and those of the rider burn a deep crimson.Even with the dimly burning eyes, the dark rider is difficult to spot unless the Exalted deliberately calls attention to it(having it slither across a brightly lit area, act in an otherwise unnatural manner etc). Perception + Awareness rolls to spot the dark rider are at a +3 difficulty, +2 when the Exalt is scrying through it.
The dark rider can also take a target captive. Each turn, the player of the Exalt rolls Dexterity + Brawl or Martial Arts in an extended test against the target's Dexterity + Dodge(if he's aware) and must gather successes equal to the target's Willpower score. Once the Exalt has sufficient successes, the dark rider appears to consume the target, leaving no trace behind. Once the duration expires, the target will be expelled wherever the dark rider is at that moment. If the target ends a turn three or more successes up on the dark rider, the rider dissipates and flees back to its possessor, to appear before her as a figurine. Any conscious character will be alerted of his envelopment after, at most, one turn of attack, but an unconscious character may be enveloped and transported without ever awakening.
Dark riders have no traits of their own except soak and health levels. Only fire can harm them. Each dark rider has five health levels and 3L of soak. If set on fire they burn quickly and leave no trace. Dark riders are also dispelled by extremely bright light (that of the sun, for example). Such light includes the Zenith Caste anima power and Solar Charms that do aggravated damage to Creatures of Darkness. Dark riders dispelled by Solar magic or fire are forever destroyed.
ORICHALCUM
Dark riders crafted from the solar metal are unaffected by light of any brightness.
They are still vulnerable to fire and can still be dispelled by Solar magic like Solar Spike and the Zenith Caste anima power.
MOONSILVER
Moonsilver riders can, when hitching a ride in another's shadow, shift into a more innocuous shape to avoid detection or take on a monstrous shape to draw attention to itself and whoever is casting the shadow. The former means the difficulty to detect it is +4 instead of +3, and the latter means that its automatically noticed. Additionally, the Lunar adds +5 dice to Perception tests made through the dark rider's senses.
JADE
Jade riders are more durable. They have four soak and eight health levels. Jade riders cannot resist light any more than other varieties.
STARMETAL
A dark rider crafted of starmetal can flit through the air, travelling at 10 times normal allowed speed until it returns to earth.
SOULSTEEL
Soulsteel riders that enter a shadowland can carry entrapped victims into the Underworld, even if the time of day would not normally allow it. So long as they are in a shadowland, dark riders made from soulsteel can freely pass between the lands of the living and the dead, regardless of the time.
These miniature figurines come in a variety of forms, most commonly human or animals, occasionally depicted with armor or weapons(if appropriate). When inactive, they appear to be expensive knick-knacks or decorations
The Chosen must spend 10m of Essence to activate the dark rider. When activated, the figurines shadow grows and replaces the Exalted's own, riding along with her for the scene. The sight is disturbing to those unaccustomed to such unusual displays and gives the Exalt two extra dice in Intimidation or Leadership rolls with mortals who witness the merger. While the dark rider serves as the Exalt's shadow, she can see around herself with perfect clarity, making it impossible to sneak up on her without the use of Charms for concealment and stealth.
The Exalt can send her dark rider-shadow away to spy on a person or location, leaving her without a shadow until the scene ends or the rider returns. The riders moves at a speed equal to the Exalt's Willpower in yards per turn, or it can ride in another's shadow, travelling along with him. The Exalted can see through the rider's eyes at will. When she does so, both ehr eyes and those of the rider burn a deep crimson.Even with the dimly burning eyes, the dark rider is difficult to spot unless the Exalted deliberately calls attention to it(having it slither across a brightly lit area, act in an otherwise unnatural manner etc). Perception + Awareness rolls to spot the dark rider are at a +3 difficulty, +2 when the Exalt is scrying through it.
The dark rider can also take a target captive. Each turn, the player of the Exalt rolls Dexterity + Brawl or Martial Arts in an extended test against the target's Dexterity + Dodge(if he's aware) and must gather successes equal to the target's Willpower score. Once the Exalt has sufficient successes, the dark rider appears to consume the target, leaving no trace behind. Once the duration expires, the target will be expelled wherever the dark rider is at that moment. If the target ends a turn three or more successes up on the dark rider, the rider dissipates and flees back to its possessor, to appear before her as a figurine. Any conscious character will be alerted of his envelopment after, at most, one turn of attack, but an unconscious character may be enveloped and transported without ever awakening.
Dark riders have no traits of their own except soak and health levels. Only fire can harm them. Each dark rider has five health levels and 3L of soak. If set on fire they burn quickly and leave no trace. Dark riders are also dispelled by extremely bright light (that of the sun, for example). Such light includes the Zenith Caste anima power and Solar Charms that do aggravated damage to Creatures of Darkness. Dark riders dispelled by Solar magic or fire are forever destroyed.
ORICHALCUM
Dark riders crafted from the solar metal are unaffected by light of any brightness.
They are still vulnerable to fire and can still be dispelled by Solar magic like Solar Spike and the Zenith Caste anima power.
MOONSILVER
Moonsilver riders can, when hitching a ride in another's shadow, shift into a more innocuous shape to avoid detection or take on a monstrous shape to draw attention to itself and whoever is casting the shadow. The former means the difficulty to detect it is +4 instead of +3, and the latter means that its automatically noticed. Additionally, the Lunar adds +5 dice to Perception tests made through the dark rider's senses.
JADE
Jade riders are more durable. They have four soak and eight health levels. Jade riders cannot resist light any more than other varieties.
STARMETAL
A dark rider crafted of starmetal can flit through the air, travelling at 10 times normal allowed speed until it returns to earth.
SOULSTEEL
Soulsteel riders that enter a shadowland can carry entrapped victims into the Underworld, even if the time of day would not normally allow it. So long as they are in a shadowland, dark riders made from soulsteel can freely pass between the lands of the living and the dead, regardless of the time.
And the 1E version allows you to own it without having to commit a mote to attuning it.
Given the textual links, Im assuming we have the Orichalcum MM version.
The immediate use I can see if we're willing to risk it in Yomi Wan is to use it as a Bag of Holding for Joe Magarac.
When we find him, use it to shunt him into its dimensional pocket, leaving Molly's hands and attention free.
The lore question we have yet to answer is whether its dimensional pocket is currently empty.
Or if there's a person stuffed inside it.
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They are still her current lores and insights, of which longing isn't even the most developed.
Strongly disagree on wood here. It is life and everything within it. There are other things involved, but in the sense that mud is water and earth and not as some unspoken other thing.
Remember the exorcism?
As funny as it would be the primordials didn't make the fifth element of the world sex or pin the eastern edge down with a big pole of concentrated fuck.
Wood is the element of life, and covers place of all living things in creation.
The wiki has this:
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Biting cold wind on a flat lightless plain is pretty wind aspected, it just as other additives too. In any case the ice is less thematically prevalent than the bitter cold itself.
Does Tiffany really fit the "virulent" part of Wood though? I dobut she will be better at it than Mother Summer and all even if so.
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BoredMan
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Changed my mind. If Tiffany gets Wood then Summer gets Wind which feels weird since thats Winter's thing.
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Mother summer is doing the mixing for everything, and would have done all this alone without our help. This is about who we assign where to enhance those effects, which is why assigning the life lore demon to the life element is the most efficient option.
As to her connection to virulence, this is an emotionally charged magical plague and she has longing. Knowing the body's physical defenses through flesh and mental ones through longing form an excellent basis for tuning a weapon to bypass them.
True, but doesn't this exact argument work for Air just as well?
Putting Tiffany on air is like bringing a mechanical engineer and having them do your taxes.
Does she have the mathematical chops and attention to detail to do it? Sure, probably. However you're missing out on her primary abilities and she's probably going to miss nuance that an actual accountant wouldn't.
If there was no better placement or something critical would suffer for not putting her there over somewhere else that'd be one thing, but we don't have reason to believe that.
So why wouldn't we send our engineer to go design us a combat viable chain sword instead of file paperwork?
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Couldn't we ask ooc what Tiffany thinks she'd be best at?
Developed does not equate innate inclination. It made sense that what influence she had over her incarnation would be spent on an immediately useful dual-use Lore.
You are right that Wood is life in Creation.
However, this is not Creation. Life here extends to a lot of other things, and the themes of life are broken up among all the classic elements. That (appears to be) why Wood here is virulence, its ability to cause severe disease, not life in general.
I dont think you can have it both ways either.
You cant simultaneously declare the Lores as your principal justification for deciding that Lash is inclined towards Wood.
Then ignore that Lash's portfolio does not cover Wild, or Beasts, just Flesh, which is a principally human application.
For something that is aimed at infecting living souls and spirits in Hell, the Demon Lore would actually be Spirit.
I've read the entire Kakuri writeup in Thousand Hells.
I dont really think so.
Furthermore, I would rather prefer Mother Summer to be in charge of the elements that apparently govern severity(virulence/Wood) and its ability to infect people, resist efforts to stomp it out, and to jump species and realms(eroding all certainties/Water).
She's the professional plague brewer.
She has the millenia of experience with disease behavior. She's the likeliest to have great control of the severity of such a thing, and the ability to lock it down against other people trying to use it against other species. Like Fae. Or humans.
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BoredMan
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Now I'm just confused. Mechanic wise does assigning an element to someone stop Mother Summer from doing anything in that direction or is it more of a contribution thing? I think you and BronzeTongue have different ideas of what the vote is for.
Nothing explicitly stated, but given there's no option to double up it's probably a implicit assumption (since Mother Summer will handle the rest + mixing)?
Maybe.
My understanding is that we are crafting a disease. Its a form of life in and of itself, and the elements govern the individual aspects where we'll individually put the most effort.
Flame is how powerful and widespread it is, as per its root power.
Air is how sneaky it is, and how good it is at defeating countermeasures meant to limit its spread.
Earth is how hardy and persistent it is, once it roots itself in a population.
Wood is how severe it is as an infection, and how good it is at adapting to its individual hosts/type of hosts
Water is how mutable it is.
Thats my understanding, and I made my choices with that in mind.
Remember, Mother Summer could do all this.
But Mother Summer has restrictions on what she is allowed to do in interaction with the rest of the setting, and how much.
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-[X] Flame, that it be kindled bright and burn far: Molly
-[X] Earth, as solid and unbreakable as the mountains: Lydia
-[X] Water, Eroding all certainties: Lash
Tiffany is of the aspect of life, but even more so she is of transgression. She is erosion of all certainties, thrice rebelling, and rebellion inspiring. Someone made with a purpose that were changed. Water is her element.
-[X] Flame, that it be kindled bright and burn far: Molly
-[X] Earth, as solid and unbreakable as the mountains: Lydia
-[X] Water, Eroding all certainties: Lash
Tiffany is of the aspect of life, but even more so she is of transgression. She is erosion of all certainties, thrice rebelling, and rebellion inspiring. Someone made with a purpose that were changed. Water is her element.
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BoredMan
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I'd rather have Summer working on Wood than.. anyone else since that's her thing and I'm not sure if putting someone else on it would necessitate her not touching that aspect.
Just incase that's what it means I'll vote to have Summer work on Wood.
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Just incase that's what it means I'll vote to have Summer work on Wood.
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And conceptually Lash is closest to Water. Because "being mutable and changing" is what she is. She is something new, born of something old and changed in ways never seen before, and her very existence is a change. her Lores are also about mutability. And, finally, this is about rebellion, and Water is the element for that.
Just noticed this, yes it was Lash talking to Mother Winter.