Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

[X] Alexander Harrowmont

Alexander Harrowmont
Alexander Harrowmont he's not going to throw away his shot and he's going to remember who got him that shot in the first place.
Also, he saw us respond to 18 Agg of fake dragon fire with "how rude, why would you do that?" and a stabbing. Sorta leaves an impression.
Harry do you want vast cosmic power?

"Gosh dang this frikking heckhole of a city"

I'll take that as a no.
To be fair he basically gets that kind of offer in the mail, mixed in with the usual fast food ads and gun coupons that keep the post office funded.
 
[X] Alexander Harrowmont

we can hopefully empower adkin through his connection to ra later, meaning we have a chance of two powerful allies later.
 
This would allow us to better kick the Reds out and maybe help the Library gain some control over the city if we trust them with knowledge of it's importance and the Gate. Should we tell them?
 
[X] Alexander Harrowmont

I kind of want Harrowmont to make a Pact with Tiffany, which is less likely if he's getting his Investments elsewhere. On the other hand, it's hardly fair to him to vote against him just because we need more Faith, and he's a decent fit for the job.
I mean, objectively Tiffany's offer is likely to be better - less strings attached for quite possibly comparable boosts.
 
I'm not actually sure if pattern-stacking is forbidden here. Sin Eater doesn't require Harrowmont's faith, and we know that exalts can make pacts, so I don't see a reason why those with mantles cannot.

For example, we could first have some FFC spirit ridden cyberware implanted, then have him make a pact with Tiffany, then he can accept the mantle.

Later on we can use IDU and VEE.

An important thing is that the order of 'template stacking' may matter.

For example if the mantle can give powers dependent on the recipient's nature at the time of gaining it, you want the broadest set of powers/attributes possible at that point

For example, if we can implant him with cyberware that gives him Rage and Gnosis, then the Mantle might be able to grant him gifts that require those resources which it couldn't give him otherwise.

Similarly, if he has an awakened P'o, the Mantle might be able to give him dots of Demon Arts.

The last depends on when we are spending XP though.
 
Harrowmont seems like a decent choice, but he has zero support system or backers to help him in Vegas. Adkin, on the other hand, has his fellow cultists, the Ra-Bot, and significantly more life experience and apparent skill with magic.

He should be able to slot into the role immediately and with minimum fuss, while Harrowmont will need significant training and time to acclimate, let alone establish himself in the supernatural community.
 
Harrowmont seems like a decent choice, but he has zero support system or backers to help him in Vegas. Adkin, on the other hand, has his fellow cultists, the Ra-Bot, and significantly more life experience and apparent skill with magic.

He should be able to slot into the role immediately and with minimum fuss, while Harrowmont will need significant training and time to acclimate, let alone establish himself in the supernatural community.

If we want to exert influence over the new Dragon, them needing our help would make it much easier.
 
Unless we decide to drop something from our list of things to do this month we'd have to come back around to this next month.

Depends on the level of help.

Getting him a set of cyber implants and leaving a squad of guards, some sorcerers to install wards on his properties and a large pile of precious metals could possibly be all done today.
 
Okay I've got to ask why? you have drawn my full and complete attention.

Because Mutt counts as one of the witnesses that fought this fight, his demon is much more of an issue to solve than giving power to anyone else who participated here and if he is willing to be honest and serious with this job he would be the best candidate for it as he knows Vegas better than any other candidate.

We'd have to burn essence on questions to make sure Mutt would be a good fit for the job though.
 
Harrowmont seems like a decent choice, but he has zero support system or backers to help him in Vegas. Adkin, on the other hand, has his fellow cultists, the Ra-Bot, and significantly more life experience and apparent skill with magic.

He should be able to slot into the role immediately and with minimum fuss, while Harrowmont will need significant training and time to acclimate, let alone establish himself in the supernatural community.
I am fairly sure that he can get allies in Adkin, LoC, and the cult of Isis, at least if we arrange for such.
 
Because Mutt counts as one of the witnesses that fought this fight, his demon is much more of an issue to solve than giving power to anyone else who participated here and if he is willing to be honest and serious with this job he would be the best candidate for it as he knows Vegas better than any other candidate.

We'd have to burn essence on questions to make sure Mutt would be a good fit for the job though.
Okay, we can solve his demon issue in I think three separate ways by ourselves he has no need to be the Dragon. Also he's a servant of Ishtar and a white vampire there is no way that he knows Vegas better than the Vegas citizen here Alexander he might know shadier parts of it that could be true but more is really stretching it I think. Also why would he be a better candidate than either Adkins or Alexander? The reason I didn't vote for Adkins is because a man cannot serve two masters. He is a man of the cloth who is leading a flock of Servants of Ra in this city never mind only migrating here recently. Alexander is a citizen of Vegas and is beholden to no one but himself and Vegas those two facts go hand in hand one master rather than a bunch like Mutt would have while he may not be beholden to the White Court he is still a vampire of said Court, he's definitely a servant of Ishtar as well.

Never mind the fact that Library of Congress would definitely support Alexander over Mutt. Also he has the magical knowledge too help us wash away chaos rain just knowledge of magic in general that is pretty stellar and when paired with the power given by the sin eater would allow him to extend pretty far and actually do his job really well.
 
[X] Alexander Harrowmont

I would be ok with either him or Adkin, but I think I want someone in this position who sees it as his main responsibility, and Adkin does not.
Besides, Harrowmont earned this position, in both positive and negative senses of the word - he wanted into the big leagues, well, he will now have to learn that sometimes you have to be wary regarding what you are wishing for.
The whole reward for good work is more work and sink or swim thing.
 
Okay, we can solve his demon issue in I think three separate ways by ourselves he has no need to be the Dragon. Also he's a servant of Ishtar and a white vampire there is no way that he knows Vegas better than the Vegas citizen here Alexander he might know shadier parts of it that could be true but more is really stretching it I think. Also why would he be a better candidate than either Adkins or Alexander? The reason I didn't vote for Adkins is because a man cannot serve two masters. He is a man of the cloth who is leading a flock of Servants of Ra in this city never mind only migrating here recently. Alexander is a citizen of Vegas and is beholden to no one but himself and Vegas those two facts go hand in hand one master rather than a bunch like Mutt would have while he may not be beholden to the White Court he is still a vampire of said Court, he's definitely a servant of Ishtar as well.

Never mind the fact that Library of Congress would definitely support Alexander over Mutt. Also he has the magical knowledge too help us wash away chaos rain just knowledge of magic in general that is pretty stellar and when paired with the power given by the sin eater would allow him to extend pretty far and actually do his job really well.

Mutt is the White Vampire who has the fucked up demon that feeds only on suicide and was serving the Dragon before we came along and then we flipped him. He doesn't serve Ishtar. He already used to serve the Sin Eater and can be argued has remained loyal while the Red Court fought a civil war.

If Mutt is capable of it he would be the best choice because he already knows how to do what needs to be done to maintain the Sin Eater and how to keep the ritual rolling. But only if he doesn't hate Vegas and isn't looking for a change of venue.
 
Replies later when Im free(r).
Who do you support for the next 'Dragon'?
[X] Alexander Harrowmont

The man's well suited for it,
especially this kind of macro level "Sit on a god damn apocalypse and keep it from blowing up" routine. He's a good guy, strong sense of ethics, unattached to any extant power, but one who we're associated with and who can likely be considered an agreeable ally among the others. His relative vulnerability in a 1v1 fite me environment is something we can work on, and as a human who's also a Citizen of the United States, the Library of Congress will also consider him a desirable person in charge of the spooky side of Vegas.

All in all, it looks like it's a good fit--he's got the hard shit on lock, and the rest is something we can work on.
No he's not.
Usum specifically pointed him out as being for sale to the right bidder.

He's got a chip on his shoulder with regards to the White Council, his pre-existing magic skills are limited, he has no people management skills or experience raising and managing a support organization, no diplomatic experience dealing with other supernatural factions or the crime world, and no known skills with financiers or politicians outside academics.

He's also got no combat experience, and I doubt he has the stomach to order people killed either, which is sometimes necessary.

He has no local support system, no support organization,
And he has a family in New England as a point of pressure to be used against him.
His key selling point here is how much of a blank slate he is.

The problem is that he is the least bad option that the Sin-Eater is willing to consider.



Adkins would be my preferred choice, since he is a military veteran, has people management skills from running a cult, decades of life experience, and the demonstrated wisdom to know when to go look for help. And a track record with both supernaturals, local politicians and financiers(see how he got the rights to set up the the Temple).

The magic robot beatstick is just gravy. He'd be perfect.

But he has pre-existing magical commitments and loyalties.
And in a location like this you dont really want a conflict of interests in the primary mortal-side decisionmaker that could result in decision paralysis.



Similarly, Charon literally told us that he was prevented from acting due to a pre-existing deal with the old Dragon.
Spirits can be bound by that sort of thing; mortals cant.
Thats very much something you would want to avoid if at all possible.

And thats aside from us not knowing much, if anything about him.
 
Mutt is the White Vampire who has the fucked up demon that feeds only on suicide and was serving the Dragon before we came along and then we flipped him. He doesn't serve Ishtar. He already used to serve the Sin Eater and can be argued has remained loyal while the Red Court fought a civil war.

If Mutt is capable of it he would be the best choice because he already knows how to do what needs to be done to maintain the Sin Eater and how to keep the ritual rolling. But only if he doesn't hate Vegas and isn't looking for a change of venue.
I had him mistaken for Ken my bad. I don't think Mutt ever worked with the sin eater he didn't serve the dragon either. Didn't we find him being pushed around and beat up by some Reds at his own bar. He has no support from anyone either he's called Mutt because no one from the White Court wants him.

To be frank Mutt is functionally speaking the same as Alexander just with no magical knowledge and actually literally no backing. There's no way to convince the Cults outside of our word to support him in any way, there's no way the Library of Congress even with our word is going to try and support him either. He would be displaced within weeks as some stealthy Supernatural faction moves in on him because he doesn't have actual magic either. Alexander gets around this because he can set wards right now and with full wizard magic all of his knowledge would immediately become way more useful instead of spending hours or days he can spend minutes on rituals and get the same level of effect.
 
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