BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
Did devils in that setting have the motive to destroy reality?
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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No, but we also summoned and mass-sacrificed Daemons who did have that motivation.
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It was more enslave everyone to fight the void kind of thing.
It was an endless cavalcade of arguments of blood sacrifice. Every point has been made.
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Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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Another way to deal with grapples get Rage Recast: Sickening Slime. Makes the base DC for grapples against Molly DC 8. That plus CCC means we should generally win the rolls.
Or Rage Recast: Flexible reducing the DC for Molly to get out of holds by 2.
Or Rage Recast: Flexible reducing the DC for Molly to get out of holds by 2.
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It literally specifies "a mortal" in the text that you quoted from each charm.
Yes, and I actually agree with you. I just have 30+ years of being salty about their unwillingness to organize.
Yeah that's probably what they mean. Every tree and creature from the smallest bee to the largest Red wood are mortal. Not to mention like the Fey blooded and other possible people who already have some level of Supernatural power but not the immortality that goes with it. Heck there are the half reds probably all of the white vampires since they passed as human enough for government work and Lord knows how many other near human hybrids as well.
Your argument has no basis at all, and is self-defeating. Ant and Starfish division has to explicitely state that the clone has access to charms. There's no such provision in the signature effect of the charm we are discussing. So, no access to charms.
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I think traditionally Mortals in WoD means either normal humans, or those plus minor splats, like Sorcerers, Kingolk, Kinain and Ghouls.
Mages and Werewolves never count as mortals, despite obviously being mortal.
Definitely not fomorization, as it's likely mess with his magic. I would consider looking into astrology as a strategic upgrade (the stars of modern universe were literally made to guide him, as was indicated in the previous updates), and yes, equipment, a lot of it.
Cheapest option - bind an automated combat vehicle to her using Chariot of the Ankou. She already as the charm, and we should have something useful in the Sanctuary. So, that's essentially free. From there - equipment (armor draft, weapon draft) and more area control and summoning charms. She's really specked for summoning.
Also, I have to apologize for not understanding the earthwave move correctly and misusing it.
Yeah, something that works against outsiders should be great. We should consider making our own "custodes" maybe. Would Molly-made weapons work on Outsiders, @DragonParadox ?
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-[X] Check in on the Sin-Eater and the state of the Gate.
-[X] Have the Hand loot the place while we are talking and prep to be taken back to Sanctuary for med evac. Tell them not to touch the Outsider Hourglass just in case.
-[X] Question Charon. Activate All Things Betray to get a better grasp of his intent.
--[X] Etiquette excellency
-[X] See if the city wide chaos spell is still in effect.
-[X] Contact Von Trier. Let her know that the crisis is averted and only cleanup remains.
Shouldn't we also activate Empathy or Etiquette excellency? Yes, we are somewhat low on essence, but it's important.
Not inherently if you are talking about Prodigies, you would have to figure out some way to shove Essence into them and make it stick. Making each one as a Splendor would work, but that would be too costly.
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I sympathize. There is a lot to be salty over.
I recall in particular how one of the White Wolf Writers for Exalted Second Edition tried to clear up terminology in a mainline book by saying immortal essence-wielders are called "gods" and mortal essence-wielders are called "Exalted". This grouped together Solar Exaltation and Martial Arts Enlightenment, both grant mortals the ability to wield essence and use Charms so they go in the same category of Exalted.
This was contradicted elsewhere in the same book by defining "mortal" to mean someone who cannot wield essence, thereby also implying that non-exalted human sorcerers are not mortal.
Great job, editors!
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I think mortals includes users of path magic by default
Well I'm mostly looking at this from the perspective of our charms and I think they would take a rather broader view of what Mortal means then just humans without Supernatural blood or active powers because formori animals exist just already both in world of darkness and in Dresden Files. So any charm that says you can turn a mortal probably just means a non-night Folk, non spirit being into a formor. Which is why I said from the smallest insect to the greatest Redwood. Because demonic trees and demonic insects are really just Staples of demonic environments or created creatures meant to defend demonic redoubts, castles and Mansions.
Just because Fomori animals exist doesn't mean Infernal charms can make them. Ferectori, especially powerful and stable fomor children born with one parent being a bane also exist and yet Infernals can't make them.
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Could we make one of those area splendors with an effect that made it possible for anyone inside to hurt outsiders? A custom Invincible Assertion style effect that just allows them to use their regular combat abilities for that purpose instead of giving the usual benefits.
That sounds doable in principle, though keep in mind that splendors are supposed to have some kind of weakness. Depending on how you do it it could be something like needing set-up time, only working if the Outsiders failed a willpower roll, causing some kind of debuff on mortals under the effect etc...
You can tell the difference between those two things right? Fomori animals make complete sense for an infernal to be able to make just grab a mortal animal drown it or whichever of our Fomori making charms you want to use then you have made the that mortal creature into a Fomor. The other are second generation half demons Ferectori of course we can't make those that's like asking a vampire to make revenants without thaumaturgy or Koldonic sorcery.
You guys can make fomori animals, though only with the charms that insert a demon, there is no awakening Po for beings without a two part soul.
That's fair. I'd figured that forcing the users to stay in a specific spot to retain the buff and not so much giving an advantage as not being inherently screwed balanced it out, but it is a fairly significant ability.
There's also the baseline physical form stuff; all splendors must have an anchor object that manifests when they do which is no tougher than its mundane appearance implies. Destroying it forcibly dismisses the splendor.
So all an outsider needs to do is figure out which thing in the area is generating the effect and smash it to end the effect.
If that doesn't work, how about something enhancing the area limitation?
Allies of the owner in the area all gain the ability to harm outsiders, but rather simply than needing to stay in range to get the buff anyone who takes it physically can't leave the area while there's an outsider in it. The outsider can run whatever it likes, and if one isn't around they can reposition if they please, but once you sign on to protect shaped reality you're committed to the act.
Needing to smash an item in the possession of an Exalted is a rather big ask, especially when the item would not even have to be visible. That is a lot of armor to chew through.