Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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I took that request to me more of a 'it can't hurt to ask' sort of thing. It's not very likely Murphy would have connections, but if it does that's a plus. Someone like Lara is a lot more likely to have an in, but they also come with added risk
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
Some people are prob too occupied doing holiday things aswell.
I think people are assuming because she's a cop that she knows and has connections with other cops even if they are from another station in a differ city. Maybe if she was a higher up it would make sense but she isn't.
I hadn't considered that angle. Vegas should be brimming with White Court as they have major operations there. If asked I could see Lara sending people with Molly or arrange to have her meet agents in Vegas, to help direct her to the problem area just so she can get out asap rather than risk the elephant unknowingly stepping on toes and interfering with buisness affairs.
We could get an in before even entering the city.
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Merry Christmas yall
I havent forgotten those replies I owe, but its going to take me rather longer than I expected since I caught a bug.
1) Why would you take people with no Nemesis/Outsider protection into a case where you are hunting an Outsider agent?
Thats just asking for them to get nommed.
Not to mention that Isabella is SKAVIS.
Daughter of a currently very highly-placed Skavis family, and who was mentored by both a very old Skavis elder and in service to the person who murked the previous Duke Skavis in front of the assembled nobility of the White Court.
Any Skavis faction thats up to no good will recognize her on sight as soon as she enters Las Vegas.
And she's a pretty weak Whampire at that.
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2) The Sin-Eater has owned Las Vegas since it was founded.
That means they own the Las Vegas Police Department as well, and have for the last century. And Im not counting the Red Court, or whatever Sandra Marling and her friends have been doing here since June/July last year.
Dont tell any police to expect you; thats just asking for everyone to end up in jail on trumped up charges.
Or to get shot on trumped up charges.
And keep Murphy out of it, so she has plausible deniability in case we have to homicide someone.
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3) Brass Courts agents have forged identification papers.
We dont want to put them in a situation where those papers come under enhanced scrutiny. This is not Chicago; there is no Murphy or Marcone or Lara Raith to pull strings on their behalf, and LV has a lot of Feds around as well, from Border Patrol to DEA.
There's no real benefit and lots of downside to bringing them here.
I havent forgotten those replies I owe, but its going to take me rather longer than I expected since I caught a bug.
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1) Why would you take people with no Nemesis/Outsider protection into a case where you are hunting an Outsider agent?
Thats just asking for them to get nommed.
Not to mention that Isabella is SKAVIS.
Daughter of a currently very highly-placed Skavis family, and who was mentored by both a very old Skavis elder and in service to the person who murked the previous Duke Skavis in front of the assembled nobility of the White Court.
Any Skavis faction thats up to no good will recognize her on sight as soon as she enters Las Vegas.
And she's a pretty weak Whampire at that.
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2) The Sin-Eater has owned Las Vegas since it was founded.
That means they own the Las Vegas Police Department as well, and have for the last century. And Im not counting the Red Court, or whatever Sandra Marling and her friends have been doing here since June/July last year.
Dont tell any police to expect you; thats just asking for everyone to end up in jail on trumped up charges.
Or to get shot on trumped up charges.
And keep Murphy out of it, so she has plausible deniability in case we have to homicide someone.
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3) Brass Courts agents have forged identification papers.
We dont want to put them in a situation where those papers come under enhanced scrutiny. This is not Chicago; there is no Murphy or Marcone or Lara Raith to pull strings on their behalf, and LV has a lot of Feds around as well, from Border Patrol to DEA.
There's no real benefit and lots of downside to bringing them here.
Lash can make Isabela look different, she cannot hand out dots in appearance, but while maintaining the same level of overall presence that is the stat she can make any cosmetic changes that come to mind, though granted limited by her rather shallow faith pool.
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fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
[X] Tiffanny and Lydia
-[X] Isabella and some Five Court agents rent rooms in a hotel and act unsuspicious and unconnected to you in case you need backup
-[X] Ask Olivia if she would assist in the recon and target acquisition.
-[X] Isabella and some Five Court agents rent rooms in a hotel and act unsuspicious and unconnected to you in case you need backup
-[X] Ask Olivia if she would assist in the recon and target acquisition.
Considering who we are Nemesis posseing our people would be a clear case of it sticking it's neck out presuming that us MIMing it's bits costs it something.
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VOTE
[X]Plan Vegas Party
-[X]Molly
-[X]Dresden
-[X]Lash
-[X]Lydia
RATIONALE
=Molly is immune to Nemesis/Outsider possession, can fly, and is the primary tank.
Enough said.
=Harry is immune to Nemesis/Outsider possession, and wields power over them.
He also has a knack with summoning and talking to Wyldfae in general, and Little Folk in particular, which we'll need for information, and he has experience with law enforcement if necessary.
And he is the first person who can open a NeverNever Way. Cheaply.
=Lash is immune to Nemesis/Outsider possession, and can see through other forms of mindfuckery. She has a sensory range of 3 miles against magical sensory phenomena. She is also a healer of lethal/bashing damage, the secondary diplomat on the team, and the other person on this party who can fly.
Which means that with Molly around, she and Lash can pick up Lydia and Dresden and bail from a scene.
=Lydia can talk to ghosts, and has a connection to Egyptian gods that might help with intel.
She is also the secondary tank on the squad, and can
And she is the second person who can open a NeverNever Way cheaply, or break attempts to block such a thing
OctarineShrike
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VOTE
[X]Plan Vegas Party
-[X]Molly
-[X]Dresden
-[X]Lash
-[X]Lydia
[X]Plan Vegas Party
-[X]Molly
-[X]Dresden
-[X]Lash
-[X]Lydia
Regarding Dresden it should be noted that if you take him you have to take a Way. Otherwise you can just take a plane since none of the others fry electronics. In fact if I weren't in a rush making the vote that is how I would have presented it.
Molly Alone
Can use Rendered Villain Dispersal to arrive near instantly and with no chance of an interception
Molly+Any non-wizard
Can take a plane which would magical surveillance harder, though you might trip up mundane filters
Include Harry
Must use a Way which means you can be intercepted and spied on in transit
Hope this helps even if it is late
Dresden doesn't work. He's too political. He's a warden commander. Vegas is, from my understanding, a no man's land, basically, politically.
And why are you bringing Lydia if you are worried about possession?
Fairly sure that Nemesis can't go from nothing to "meat puppet" instantly. And it costs us anything to run exorcism on everyone susceptible afterwards.
Fair.
The other drawback still holds. The information risks are significant.
Nemesis is not the only Outsider capable of possessing people, as Duke Skavis demonstrated in this AU, and Vito Malvora demonstrated in canon; just the one who can multitask doing it to multiple people simultaneously.
Furthermore, they canonically put Nemesis shards in Justine and Cat Sith, Maeve and Aurora.
Right next to a Starborn, and both Queens of the Fae Courts, so its not like Nemesis lacks an appetite for risk.
If the risk is too high for its appetite, another Outsider can do it.
Or she could drive and activate Anonymity.
Make it a roadtrip where the cops wont even see the car breaking all sorts of speed limits on the freeway.
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Molly does not know the precise limitations of Nemsis' possession power very well but from the looks of the shadow spider thing that came out of Maeve and tried to go for Mab it can at the very least activate in battlefield relevant time, though that looked very costly. It only really happened because you kicked it out and it had nothing to lose with that instance. Still the fact that it did not just swallow up the whole Winter Court as soon as it had an in is an indication of some kind of limitation of attention, power or some combination thereof.
Sandra Marling was involved in the Proven Guilty incident in Chicago. Very much in his purview.
And in the RPG, I remember Ramirez came here; no mans land doesnt mean you cant actually visit.
Lydia has both Lash and Arawn backup. And Lash has not!Sight, as does Lydia.
Which is why Im willing to risk it.
Else we would leave her home.
It explicitly did it to Cat Sith in Cold Days; Sith was apparently possessed in the couple minutes that Dresden left him alone to meet with Lily at the Botanical Gardens. And there werent even signs of a fight.
Sith did try to resist when ordered to kill Dresden, but it didnt last very wrong.
Not everyone has the mystical resistance of Lea or Maeve.
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The protection is not as good for a car as when an infernal is on foot. The driver cannot be noticed, but the car and the other passengers can. So if you run someone over under ATP witnesses will not be able to describe you, but they would be able to describe the car just fine. Also normal cameras who do not have willpower will be able to get videos of you just fine and people looking at them after the fact would not be under the incidence of the charm as they were not in the presence of an Infernal with active ATP.
- Location
- washington
We could put a demon in the plane technically. I see no way this could go wrong.
We could put a demon in the plane technically. I see no way this could go wrong.
Yes, that is also an option, though you would then either have to leave the demon in or spend 5 Essence taking it out with Sapphire Exorcism.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
Yes we need Night Shallows Secrets for the long lasting secrecy.
You can, but that is two Essence in both directions, which means you would get to Vegas at 11/15
Here is what you're probably looking for:
It doesn't say anything about entropy, and strictly speaking that's not an elemental force or what the black magic of murder is. Killing and dying are acts and states in wood's portfolio because they're fundamentally changes in and of life. Death doesn't have its own element, and entropy is a higher order property of material forces interacting.
I'm not suggesting that the pole of wood is the same in this age either or in the material world. That sort of thing tends to be in the nevernever. I'm not asserting that this is a possibility in canon either, it only makes sense in context of the quest.
As to the last; I don't think killing and death indicate anything about a separate element here any more than mother summer's collection of plagues indicates disease is one. They're life related things.
- Location
- Germany
Also it's a high-DC roll, it's not reliable to work on one try.
- Location
- washington
No its not its a more recent wog past 2020. Butcher mentioned some of the health concerns of a blackstaff user and a vague bit of what it is. Thank you for trying and your points are sound but their arguing something I'm not necessarily arguing against and aren't points I was making. That wog list is like 5 years out of date sadly.
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BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
Why? If anything wouldn't it make people more wary of starting shit with us because he's a Warden? Our aim here is Outsider related I don't see how that would reflect badly on the Council either and it's not like Wardens aren't allowed in Vegas it's still a human city.
- Location
- Canada