[X] My father's enemies are my enemies, that will will take more than five or ten years to deal with
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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SCREAMING AT THE APOCALYPSE
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[X] BronzeTongue
One thing you guys might want to consider is that this is a chance to get an in with non-Harry wizards. I mean they are right there and one of them seems quite intrigued by Molly thanks to her cheek when faced with senior wizards.
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I mean I figured a lot of that would be once they actually get into the hell and deals can be made.
This is the kind of thing you guys need to think about in advance. Do you want to try building bridges with the junior wardens who are more likely to like Molly, but also have less power than older wizards? It is not an option that just shows up on a lost somewhere, more something you should be brainstorming. As a part of this remember the White Council is not the most centralized of institutions even normally and these are not normal times.
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Also the book on Yomi Wan we wrote, that Harry gave to the WC.
Let's see, making Winter obsolete, and having Tea with God as the closest thing to an equal, respectively.
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Eh nah Gods a superior even if we become a primordial. You could argue an arch angel is possibly an equal to us then though.Let's see, making Winter obsolete, and having Tea with God as the closest thing to an equal, respectively.
I hope you understand who Theion and, consequently, Malfeas was based on?
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Baby primordial is baby primordial. We are less baby primordial right now so much as gestating primordial.
That was part of the reason I wanted to take them home with Molly.
That and I've always found Carlos' braggadocio hilarious.
I am pretty sure we were anonymous in authoring that book before handing it off to Dresden.
So Morgan, or anyone with knowledge of current events, will suspect that Harry compiled that from what Molly told him, but wont actually know.
Of course, given that Donald Morgan has been busy helping to run most of the ongoing Vampire War, I suspect that he doesnt know about Harry delivering a copy of the Big Book of Yomi-Wan to the Council.
If anyone will know, I'd bet on Wu Min, who as an Eastern wizard and diplomat has particular interests in that direction.
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OctarineShrike
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Do we have any plans for addressing the "Mercy in Servitude is another form of slavery" angle?
For one thing, we are not discussing the details of how our powers work with them.
Nor do I think they expect us to.
For another, MiS is not slavery.
Anyone can choose to give up its effects by simply thinking about it.
Any of the Whampires here could turn and leave and go back to feeding on people with no issue.
Also most wizards probably would not much care even if it were slavery. In only works on non-humans and of those the nastier ones. The Laws of magic being what they are there is a lot of othering going on here for the sake of the wizards' sanity.
OctarineShrike
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Sounds reasonable. I doubt Molly nor any of the Wardens have enough grounding in leftist theory to take another angle there now that I think about it.
She's also probably one of the relative few that get how big a deal it is. We were told that demons don't share some things for blood or money, and that book is basically a highlight reel of everything Yomi Wan doesn't want anyone to know unless you've sold your soul first.
That's not really an "also this" level entry to our CV.
Even if they were a wizard's life experience doesn't exactly encourage an inability to handle nuance. A straight exchange where either party can quit at either time and the benefits are themselves clean long term probably isn't going to get treated the same as all the actual slavery they see on a routine basis even if it's not exactly maximum possible freedom. For all the many potential issues with that setup it's leaps and strides ahead of the curve for the supernatural.
The maggots charm would get the response you're thinking of.
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Also worth considering is the impact of noting exactly how much destabilizing force Molly has available in the Brass Courts.
Force thats subject to no treaties, no restraint besides the opinions of a teenager.
Force that could, say, decisively alter the Vampire War in the next month if she was willing to ignore collateral and Masquerade consequences and just ham into Latin America.
Im looking forward to people like Morgan realizing that Dresden, of all people, the dude who burned down a Rampire manor in anger, has been the voice of reason urging a teenager to be....cautious and studied about throwing her weight around.
Thats probably going to be moderately mindbreaking in its own right, given what his Council reputation is like.
Probably all of the Senior Council would get the implications immediately if they noticed it.
But of the younger wizards, certainly she is one of those who I would expect to have both noticed it come in, and realized its importance. Assuming Peabody didnt simply steal the thing, of course.
But Im assuming Dresden submitted several copies; somewhere like Kinko's makes duplicates.
And here I thought one of the benefits of being self-employed was never having to answer that question again. What next, "What would you say are your greatest strengths and weaknesses?"
When your job title is planetary god empress it loops back around.
We can cripple Red Court rather easily, even without Masquerade violations. Load up on MOAB equivalents (@DragonParadox what do our courts have in terms of high explosives? Probably not nukes, but some manners of bunker busters), use a crown on one of the prisoners to learn the locations of all Red Court strongholds, use RVD to get there (or do strafing runs from stratosphere). Or buy Prince of Ruin Attitude, find some missing nukes, and use that. Or buy Principle-Invoking Onslaught and do actual orbital bombardment from multiple kilometers in the air.
We have enough foci to have complete intelligence supremacy, and enough resources to turn said supremacy into complete annihilation.
Yes, you have bunker busters, no one is planning to use them since that level of explosive means either you are planning to blow most of the population of some unfortunate tribe away as a demonstration or you are about to fight an inter-City war, but they are insurance. They are also called Flowers of Poisonous Conflagration since they use balefire elementals as part of their payload, a whole elemental inside the thing. Tech has not gotten to the point of miniaturizing this and no one has figured out how to make them do anything complex... but all they need to do in this situation is burn and race after any survivors like a wall of flame.
I'm pretty sure engaging in a heavy strategic bombing is a masquerade breach, even if we do it so fast no one is sure what specifically is going on.
… perhaps especially then.
Either way it would make our next conversation with the Library interesting.
Librarian: On one hand her high altitude bombing reflex confirms she's really an American, on the other she's definitely not listening to us and we have no control of her explosive sources.
… is this one of those things where Molly dope slapping the elemental would help?
Maybe, depending on what you want it to do. You can certainly try your hand at bomb-whispering.
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Not sure it's a masquerade breach so much as it's likely to get blamed on terrorist organizations.I'm pretty sure engaging in a heavy strategic bombing is a masquerade breach, even if we do it so fast no one is sure what specifically is going on.
… perhaps especially then.
Either way it would make our next conversation with the Library interesting.
Librarian: On one hand her high altitude bombing reflex confirms she's really an American, on the other she's definitely not listening to us and we have no control of her explosive sources.
… is this one of those things where Molly dope slapping the elemental would help?