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oh okay I thought you were saying they occupy an entire region of the Antarctic ocean.
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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Hmm.
So thirty minutes to return to Bone Mountain, with Molly carrying a prisoner and the carriage.
Five minutes to make phone calls while walking to the shores of the Connecticut River.
Hadley to Long Island Sound, North Atlantic via the Connecticut River to St Lawrence Seaway to Chicago. Two minutes or less.
We can do this.
We get a Hell at the end of this month. And handing him over to the Library is also an option.
We can do better.
Plus, literal motherlode of occult information on potential future enemies.
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Nope, sorry.
If we assume the other Skinwalker wasn't lying (doubt he was, under Lara's charm) then all those of the Naagloshii's students who survived and thrived so long are monsters well beyond our ability or desire to redeem.
Maybe a Knight would try it, but even they tend to kill monsters when the risk that they'd hurt others is real.
I'd definitly leave this one to Big G's judgement, he has played out his chances in this life.
Mercy literally means to give a quick clean death.
Even in the event of his being an irredeemable bastard, his possession of decades of information on a naagloshii's habits would buy him his life. Both because Molly's Urge is curiosity, and because that information would save the lives of others.
Again, Molly shouldnt default to the easy option of just shanking people. Even if they are bad people.
There's literally an option in the sourcebook that suggests unnecessary killing harms the killer; you'll see it when you note how Devils/Yama Kings value an Exalt's soul in Soul Commerce.
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Fairly sure denarians are worst and having our hell saying yeah these guys are just too bad is depressing ngl. If we can I want to take over other hells. Doubt it will ever happen but rejecting everyone sounds depressing.
I am reasonably certain that is not true.
Certainly not in modern English.
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Neither Wikipedia nor the dictionary agrees with you
Mercy - Wikipedia
Definition of MERCY
compassion or forbearance shown especially to an offender or to one subject to one's power; also : lenient or compassionate treatment; imprisonment rather than death imposed as penalty for first-degree murder; a blessing that is an act of divine favor or compassion… See the full definition
www.merriam-webster.com
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Good night guys, see you in the morning as Molly tries to get home.
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This one is shapeshifter with an unknown arsenal of skills.
Even aside from moral judgment that he propably deserves to die, it's still a mess to keep him captive.
We don't know if he can heal aggravated (propably not in combat-time, but possibly in captive time), we don't know how big or small he can get to escape chains or cells, we don't know how easily he can step between the Nevernever and reality, we don't know what other tricks the old monster has tought him.
He's a risk, not in particular to Molly in anything resembling a straight fight, but a risk to almost anyone else and a flight-risk for sure.
And unlike his fellow monster last time, we don't have a powerful Whampire to put him under her control.
Even aside from moral judgment that he propably deserves to die, it's still a mess to keep him captive.
We don't know if he can heal aggravated (propably not in combat-time, but possibly in captive time), we don't know how big or small he can get to escape chains or cells, we don't know how easily he can step between the Nevernever and reality, we don't know what other tricks the old monster has tought him.
He's a risk, not in particular to Molly in anything resembling a straight fight, but a risk to almost anyone else and a flight-risk for sure.
And unlike his fellow monster last time, we don't have a powerful Whampire to put him under her control.
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The idea odins people can't hold him is kind of ridiculous ngl.
I would rather not be left without a phone. We need to make some (a lot of) calls as soon as possible, and we can't delegate all of them to Piotr.
Ok, could work. Tight schedule, but could work. We don't need to visit Alec or Izzy's home. Facebook pages should be more than sufficient.
It's just money, and I'd rather overpay a bit here.
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They propably could if they knew what he can do.
Since they don't, I'm not certain they can (yes they likely can, but this is not someone for whose sake I'd take a minor risk).
And even a failed escape is too much, if it gets an Einherjer or worker killed who would not have had to die.
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My dude. Pass him off to Monoc, come back for him later.
Are your seriously arguing that Monoc, and the people loyal to Odin, cant hold a lesser skinwalker?
Or that he can get through the wards around Bone Mountain?
Its a lesser skinwalker.
Not a naagloshii, but the human variety. They arent mysteries. Their vulnerabilities are known. And this one already has Agg damage, which means thats damage he cant heal for at least a day.
Lara's people managed to hold on to theirs as far as we know; the people who have been playing merc around the world for centuries probably have a much better idea of what they can do.
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This is a very interesting update. What came of Luna, I wonder…
"bestman" was used when I'm guessing you meant beastman. Before chimera.
"bestman" was used when I'm guessing you meant beastman. Before chimera.
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Fucking ridiculous odins the guy who allegedly taught merlin the guy who made demonreach where fucking skinwalkers are minimum security. I'd be surprised if they couldn't hold mab much less a skinchanger.
We dont need to give away our phone.
Step out, connect to European cellphone networks, make calls/send messages, go back into the NeverNever.
Pay the exorbitant roaming charges at the end of the month.
Fair point.
Social media pictures should be relevant foci.
That would work.
Or just a promise to share whatever info we extract from the dude about his erstwhile master.
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I have no doubt that Odin could easily hold this guy.
But whoever is in charge of the workshop is likely not Odin and this is a workshop, not a prepared prison.
And again, I don't think this guy's life is worth even a tiny risk of someone else dying.
We don't know what Gifts he has, that is a fact of the mechanics.
As for Lara's captove, he was already in her thrall, all other chains would be redundant. I don't think we've seen Odin's people wield similar mind-control yet, have we?
The Einherjer are just tougher mortals with a lot of experience, not any kind of mages.
I'm not sure if we can step back in.
Also, the reason I asked about satellite phone is because mountains don't usually have cell coverage. No established infrastructure = no connection. It's a gamble and we don't really have time.
We should see about making Clippy into a proper satellite phone.
Luna is one of the first exalted beings I expect to start clawing her way out of death through backchannels established by exaltations.
Which is why we cripple him with a flaming sword. His weakness is flames. If he's built as a werewolf, he should heal one level of agg. damage per day. So, give him two levels of fire-inspired damage.
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Any attempt to make arrangements for restraining or imprisoning the lesser Skinwalker is time wasted that could be spent helping Molly's friends. Everything else is secondary to that, IMO.
Kill him and get back to Chicago as quickly as possible without making our return obvious.
Kill him and get back to Chicago as quickly as possible without making our return obvious.
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People seem to think it's bad karma to kill this guy; give him the same choice Michael gives to minions, Repent or be Smited. Molly is his daughter; she would know his SOP for dealing with this. It respects Free Will while not leaving an opening for backstabs.
Even aside from the pure morality?
A reputation for killing prisoners does not help you. Even on a purely pragmatic basis.
Aint noone gonna talk to you if they think you will shank them afterwards.
And like I've repeated, this is not the only naagloshii we are likely to deal with in the setting.
Killing this dude is remarkably short-sighted.
It IS bad karma.
Michael and Sanya have literally let a Denarian walk after he gave up his Coin, despite knowing that he wasnt sincere.
This dude was complicit in killing another Knight, and a priest of the Vatican, and had helped plot a magic plague.
We may not be them, but we know what they would do.
This is honestly not a good argument here, because the knights and their swords are not us, as you pointed out, and their decision making is not always optimal from a non-angelic perspective.
But yes, there are good reasons to keep the man alive and a prisoner.
These are Odin's troops hired out to deal with supernatural threats.
They sure as hell know how to deal with minor threats like a notGarou; this kind of shit is their bread and butter
If nothing else, they have silver, if only as raw materials that we used in crafting.
And I suspect those faerie thorn bracelets they use on wizards work just fine on lesser skinwalkers, who are basically sorcerers.
This is a military base primarily; its workshop facilities are secondary. It has detainment facilities just by nature of what it was..
And the NeverNever around the Way is going to be covered by spirits they have an understanding with.
I mean, we ran into Rudolph.
The reply was made in reply to a post that implied Michael would approve of killing him.
None of the Knights kill their prisoners, even when they deserve it.
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I'd give odins men decent chance of holding a skinwalker let alone a skinchanger if they were beaten first.