Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

We can already make an educated guess what Lara has done to the White King, so that option isn´t terribly enticing for me.
Madrigal is kind of a fuck up to be honest. He isn´t as incompetent as his sister if I remember correctly, but I wouldn´t give him highest priority here. However Lara has her own plans and if her preparitions are focused on the other targets, sure, we can go after Madrigal first.

[] Stick close to Madrigal, as the only Raith in the conspiracy it would be particularly problematic if he were to escape

The details I leave out to plan for those who have a better grasp on our options abilities wise
 
[X] Stay in the back to avoid people noticing your buffing up before it's too late, but go for Madrigal first, you should be fast enough
-[X] Reactivate IPM and ATB, paying 1 Essence and 1 WP
-[X] Try to activate Steel Skin as close as possible to the finale of the speech (1 Essence)
-[X] As soon as the thing goes down, activate VLE (1 Essence) and flare your Anima to start flying and setting your sword on hellfire
-[X] Lydia also activates Flawless Hunter's Eye during the speech, aside from that she attacks the nearest targets, since she likely can't keep up with you hunting dwn the priorities due to the difference in speed


In the nature of the game of Essence-spending and per-round actions I think it's worth the risk of being noticed early. Turning our skin bronze is not subtle, but not very attention-drawing either.
 
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Ah, wait spending limit is only on essence per turn, not willpower :D
And Steel Skin can be activated with willpower misread that :(

[X] Stick close to Madrigal, as the only Raith in the conspiracy it would be particularly problematic if he were to escape
-[X] Activate IPM and ATB early while the king gives the speech (with essence if it's already a new scene, else with willpower)
-[X] Activate VLE, WBS and melee excellency the instant you attack (flare anima)
-[X] activate steel skin later
 
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"I was going to buy an apartment..."
Honestly, Should we just buy an Apartment Complex? near the Station, (maybe link the two physically or magically?), create a Guardian Spirit for the place to compensate for the low Threshold levels, lock the rent prices to for low income renters and give the option to our vassals, cult, gang, minions Buddies to live there.

Better a urban commune than a suburban one, imo.

Feels like something Molly would prefer, being around people, I mean? Ya know, Building Communities. Ruling Them With An Iron Fist
 
[] Stick close to Madrigal, as the only Raith in the conspiracy it would be particularly problematic if he were to escape
Lara asked us to start with him and we did sort of throw a minor headache her way tonight, so I'm inclined to grant that request and kill him first.

@DragonParadox just to confirm, do whamps count for MiM? I figure they probably don't because they're too human, but wanted to get clarification to avoid confusion. Also, while I have your attention, are the locked doors and armed guards enough for CCC or are we too close to being on their side for that?

Going with the assumption that what we have is all we're going to get, we should activate what scene long stuff we can with willpower in advance. MHM won't be as strong, but we can't turn on our obvious buffs like Steel Skin and VLE before the first round so we're going to have to deal with the spending bottleneck.

… Actually now that think about it, how many people are actually watching us right now?

It might be too risky, but just to put it out there for consideration; what if we slink off with Lydia and use CSR to return in her drink? Then we can activate whatever charm we like as long as it doesn't flare our anima too soon.

Supposing we don't do that, I think we should start by flipping on IPM with willpower, then Occult Excellency + MHM + ATB with essence during the speech because they're not obvious till we use them.

Which is a lot of essence, but doing it that way brings us right to the line so we'll flare and get RR for free on the first round.

Then once the signal hits and combat starts we immediately trigger VLE followed by steel skin. The order is important because the former is reflexive and the later a moment of concentration, so our protection will kick in sooner within the turn.

That leaves us with 1 mote to play with inside the bottleneck. Personally since we already should have MHM going strong I'd favor just smashing Madrigal with it and going in for the kill without another excellency, but I can see the argument for using it just to be safe.
Results:

Turn 0:
Motes: 15 -> 12
Willpower: 8 -> 7
Active Buffs: Immune to mind magic, telekinesis at maximum strength, +3 dice to initiative, -3 difficulty to perception.


Turn 1:

Motes: 12 -> 10
Willpower: 7 -> 7

Active Buffs: Immune to mind magic, telekinesis at maximum strength, +3 dice to initiative, -3 difficulty to perception, soak in the 17 dice at dc 4 range. Flight, TA, possibly melee excellency.

I also really want BSM, but I don't want to give an obvious hint to anyone.

I think the solution is to deliberately get messy with the first close quarters kill we make. Cut some arteries and make sure we get in the splash. We've bisected people before, maybe we could pull some horror movie shenanigans and step through someone as we spit them in half?


For Lydia it's simpler. Her only relevant scene long buff is FHE, since her mental defenses are target limited. So she should pop that, then excellency + HB the first round.

Her spirit killer explicitly slurps up vamps, so she should break out the feeding funnel and go on a binge as soon as possible, mowing down adds to get essence so she can spam excellency and Agg blasts at anyone in range.

Ideally the whamps won't be able to look at Lydia without remembering that her preferred unit of measure for vampires is "Golden Corral load" after this is done. :V


Honestly, Should we just buy an Apartment Complex? near the Station, (maybe link the two physically or magically?), create a Guardian Spirit for the place to compensate for the low Threshold levels, lock the rent prices to for low income renters and give the option to our vassals, cult, gang, minions Buddies to live there.

Better a urban commune than a suburban one, imo.

Feels like something Molly would prefer, being around people, I mean? Ya know, Building Communities. Ruling Them With An Iron Fist
Resources 4 isn't enough for that. We need 5 or better to start buying that sort of thing.
 
Honestly, Should we just buy an Apartment Complex? near the Station, (maybe link the two physically or magically?), create a Guardian Spirit for the place to compensate for the low Threshold levels, lock the rent prices to for low income renters and give the option to our vassals, cult, gang, minions Buddies to live there.

Better a urban commune than a suburban one, imo.

Feels like something Molly would prefer, being around people, I mean? Ya know, Building Communities. Ruling Them With An Iron Fist
Once we were rich I was gonna build something stupidly defensible maybe turn it into a headquarters for a future organization and have people live in there. Kinda like what marcone does later. I mean if we could I'd build it right over our nest. But, thats definitely not doable in chicago. Well at least without sabotage of some kind of whatever is above it.

Edit: Actually dp what is above our nest? Well future nest not technically ours yet.
 
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Did we really not cover ourself in anti-freeze before coming to the party?
That would have been really obvious and weird. We don't want to be that explicit about our powers because people will exploit them.

Remember when the will of Kakuri accidentally no sold BSM because he happened to have an attack cold enough to freeze oil? Imagine that but all the time because we obviously coat ourselves in random liquids before fighting on a consistent basis.
 
Remember when the will of Kakuri accidentally no sold BSM because he happened to have an attack cold enough to freeze oil? Imagine that but all the time because we obviously coat ourselves in random liquids before fighting on a consistent basis.
The lesson I learned from that was use antifreeze. Also that keeping it secret is no defense when the QM knows about it.
 
[X] Stay in the back to avoid people noticing your buffing up before it's too late, but go for Madrigal first, you should be fast enough
-[X] Reactivate IPM and ATB, paying 1 Essence and 1 WP
-[X] Try to activate Steel Skin as close as possible to the finale of the speech (1 Essence)
-[X] As soon as the thing goes down, activate VLE (1 Essence) and flare your Anima to start flying and setting your sword on hellfire
-[X] Lydia also activates Flawless Hunter's Eye during the speech, aside from that she attacks the nearest targets, since she likely can't keep up with you hunting dwn the priorities due to the difference in speed


In the nature of the game of Essence-spending and per-round actions I think it's worth the risk of being noticed early. Turning our skin bronze is not subtle, but not very attention-drawing either.
I think we can pack more in than this.

MHM is also scene long, so that and occult excellency would give us ranged options for the whole fight.

IPM with will, then the others with essence as you've got it laid out would result in us flaring for free as soon as we hit VLE round one.
The lesson I learned from that was use antifreeze. Also that keeping it secret is no defense when the QM knows about it.
Antifreeze isn't perfect, just resistant. It would have probably also frozen under the same effect. There's also other options like using fire or air magic to dry us off.

Sure DP knows about Molly's abilities, but he isn't going to metagame for the opposition. Incidental complications from native abilities are a whole different animal from deliberate plans from people targeting us.

It's simple to avoid this problem, all we need is to make some concealable equipment to keep BSM on without being obvious and it's mostly handled. We're taking pointless risks by putting it off.
 
The easiest way to incorporate BSM into daily use would be just to make it part of Molly's makeup, you can make that heavy enough to count thought it would be something of a statement given Molly has expression 0.
 
Quick comments:
Votes are still pretty close so there are some thoughts about the options:
  • Sending her to your house has the issue that you are sending someone in a very mentally fragile state to deal with Charity and as good of a person as she is she's not perfect, things might get judgy and right now what is keeping Eleanor afloat is Exalted social fu. It is physically the safest place you could send her
She's not perfect, but it takes situations where she is personally and emotionally involved to visibly get under her skin.
I mean, Charity dealt with Thomas more politely on their first meeting than she did with Dresden pre-Arctis Tor, and Thomas is a Raith. You know, sex vampire. She'll do fine.

Not to mention that she's likely to be too distracted worrying about her daughter.

[X] Offer Eleanor Black Rider's services to go wherever she needs to go to clear her head that is not a vampire party about to turn into an execution
The Carpenter household is not a safehouse for random people.
Yes it is.

Death Masks
Sanya stayed there when he got into town, while Shiro stayed with Father Forthill.
Dresden stayed here after he got shot.

Small Favor
Sanya stayed here.
Gard and Hendricks stayed here after they were attacked by Denarians.
Gard in particular was disembowelled at the time, and needed medical care.

Changes, Ghost Story, Cold Days
Maggie Dresden stayed here.
Of a Crown Most Hollow
COMMENTARY
Lara is doing a Red Wedding? Lara?
I was expecting her to be more along the lines of letting Molly do the dirty work of calling out the conspirators in a way they cant back down from.

People being guests are usually supposed to be sacrosanct by supernatural custom, and she's playing host.
I wonder what happened. What she turned up in the three days between our phone call and this meeting that made her decide that it was worth taking the social and internal disorder hit.

If we'd had a headsup on that earlier, I would have prioritized talking to Leinth on our way in.

This is quite a departure from how things worked out in canon, from Lara's personal preferences, and from general White Court practice for that matter.
More than a little concerning.

@DragonParadox
We DID get a look at Lara with Hellscry Chakra up, right?
We did confirm this is Lara?
And not Nemesis or a skinwalker wearing her skin?
 
@DragonParadox
We DID get a look at Lara with Hellscry Chakra up, right?
We did confirm this is Lara?
And not Nemesis or a skinwalker wearing her skin?

Yes, you had Hellscry on all scene

She is planning to offer to take them into custody, it is just that she does not expect anyone to take the deal since the punishment for the crime they have committed is death. It has to be public because she is removing so many people, doing it in private would make her look both weak and treacherous.

This way the White King in his function as judge is going to call out the accused... at which point we are going to have that fight
 
Yeah just thought about it breaking guest rights is um its literally one of the worst things you can do in the supernatural. Fuck I don't remember a single person breaking them skirting rules yes but actually breaking them no. Like it has literal consequences to break them.
 
Yes, you had Hellscry on all scene

She is planning to offer to take them into custody, it is just that she does not expect anyone to take the deal since the punishment for the crime they have committed is death. It has to be public because she is removing so many people, doing it in private would make her look both weak and treacherous.

This way the White King in his function as judge is going to call out the accused... at which point we are going to have that fight
You can't normally break guest rights though it has actual consequences. You can play word games though. Its not even just a fae thing.

Edit: We've never seen it before but we know a wizard could face actual magical consequences for breaking guest rights for example.
 
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You can't normally break guest rights though it has actual consequences. You can play word games though. Its not even just a fae thing.

Edit: We've never seen it before but we know a wizard could face actual magical consequences for breaking guest rights for example.
Wizards have to swear by their power to face that sort of consequence. Guest right being broken is more of a political thing than anything else.

Since this is an internal matter for the court and occurring at a formal event rather than at a personal event of Lara's there's some wiggle room to work with.

Still risky though.
 
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