Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

[X] Obligations and meetings
-[X] Attend school you have friends at school and you would like the memories of senior year and graduation even if they won't be teaching you anything worthwhile (If neither School nor getting your GED is chosen Molly will systematically skip class)
-[X] Deal with the servants of Karuri, diplomatically or otherwise they must be removed from the city before their darkness can spread. If you know anything about the Yama Kings, and you know an enough to make a soul uneasy, this is unlikely to be resolved without bloodshed
-[X] Cauldron Bubble, your new friends in the Ordo Lebetis could use more help, maybe not as... enthusiastic as the last time, but they are small fish in a very big and scary pond
--[X] Offer insight, inducing but not limited to helping Maria out with her breaking the news to her fiancee, getting Olivia some training in her gift
-[X] Restoring the Last Station: Restoration efforts have been going well and according to Adam some more of the people down in the tunnels have shown interest in their newfound wealth and comfort (3/8)
-[X] A friend in need. You promised Rosie that you would help and so you will, with problems material and ethereal
--[X] Talking to the family, you do not like Mrs Wilsom and the feeling is mutual, but as your experience at church yesterday showed you do not have to like someone to turn on the supernatural charm. Maybe you could work something out, or at least explain some of what her daughter is going through
-[X] Get ready for your meeting with Queen of Winter Fae: prepare a suitable meeting place, and preemptively gather intel with your crown. Lydia's library and treasury probably have something that can be used as a focus; Harry might be able to suggest something too.
[] Yes
-[]... and ask to learn the Qiao of the Meng starting next month (Locks Action)
We already voted to lock in Qiao of the Meng training action.
 
The odds of failing all 10 dice at dc5 are (4/10)^10 = 0.0001048576
That is a very low number, but since we are planning on making multiple every week it might be worth mathing the odds of failings at least once a year.

Ah, if we make 5 potions a day for a year the odds of a at least one botch raises to .2 I can see why most wizards without key abilities, excilancy or DC reductions might not use this stuff regularly.

Edit: Ah my mistake I assumed 5 potions a day instead of 5 potions a week. So our odds of a botch is back to low enough that my online calculator rounds to 0.
 
That is a very low number, but since we are planning on making multiple every week it might be worth mathing the odds of failings at least once a year.

Ah, if we make 5 potions a day for a year the odds of a at least one botch raises to .2 I can see why most wizards without key abilities, excilancy or DC reductions might not use this stuff regularly.

Edit: Ah my mistake I assumed 5 potions a day instead of 5 potions a week. So our odds of a botch is back to low enough that my online calculator rounds to 0.
(1-(4/10)^10)^52 = 0.99456.... to succeed for 52 weeks. Or ~0.00544 to fail once or more.
 
(1-(4/10)^10)^52 = 0.99456.... to succeed for 52 weeks. Or ~0.00544 to fail once or more.
Of course once the potion is mastered our odds improve. Maybe it's already mastered? Not actually clear.

However if we make too many potions it's going to bite into our willpower recovery.
 
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That is a very low number, but since we are planning on making multiple every week it might be worth mathing the odds of failings at least once a year.

Ah, if we make 5 potions a day for a year the odds of a at least one botch raises to .2 I can see why most wizards without key abilities, excilancy or DC reductions might not use this stuff regularly.

Edit: Ah my mistake I assumed 5 potions a day instead of 5 potions a week. So our odds of a botch is back to low enough that my online calculator rounds to 0.
Won't we get another 2 dice when we have an alchemy spade set up in our own lab? From WHWH.
 
Won't we get another 2 dice when we have an alchemy spade set up in our own lab? From WHWH.
Assuming that there is no problems with brewing potions in sub zero temperature yes. We might have a extra engineering problem of making the room cold well well still being able to control the temperature of what we are making. Good thing we are a machinery genius.
 
We already voted to lock in Qiao of the Meng training action.
Damn, ok. I think Rosie can wait a bit. We gave her something to do this month with her abilities. We can heavily help her next month. But I think my point about how we are very, very deep in AP hell is aptly demonstrated here. We have essentially locked in all our actions for the month.

[X] Obligations and meetings
-[X] Attend school you have friends at school and you would like the memories of senior year and graduation even if they won't be teaching you anything worthwhile (If neither School nor getting your GED is chosen Molly will systematically skip class)
-[X] Deal with the servants of Karuri, diplomatically or otherwise they must be removed from the city before their darkness can spread. If you know anything about the Yama Kings, and you know an enough to make a soul uneasy, this is unlikely to be resolved without bloodshed
-[X] Cauldron Bubble, your new friends in the Ordo Lebetis could use more help, maybe not as... enthusiastic as the last time, but they are small fish in a very big and scary pond
--[X] Offer insight, inducing but not limited to helping Maria out with her breaking the news to her fiancee, getting Olivia some training in her gift
-[X] Restoring the Last Station: Restoration efforts have been going well and according to Adam some more of the people down in the tunnels have shown interest in their newfound wealth and comfort (3/8)
-[X] The Bridges of the Spirit, continue your training with Brother Divsimar not in the ways of the spirit but the mind, the Bridge of Dreams
-[X] Get ready for your meeting with Queen of Winter Fae: prepare a suitable meeting place, and preemptively gather intel with your crown. Lydia's library and treasury probably have something that can be used as a focus; Harry might be able to suggest something too.
 
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I want to meet Odin before Mab, Last Station can wait a month.

[X] Meet Odin
-[X] Attend school you have friends at school and you would like the memories of senior year and graduation even if they won't be teaching you anything worthwhile (If neither School nor getting your GED is chosen Molly will systematically skip class)
-[X] Deal with the servants of Karuri, diplomatically or otherwise they must be removed from the city before their darkness can spread. If you know anything about the Yama Kings, and you know an enough to make a soul uneasy, this is unlikely to be resolved without bloodshed
-[X] Cauldron Bubble, your new friends in the Ordo Lebetis could use more help, maybe not as... enthusiastic as the last time, but they are small fish in a very big and scary pond
--[X] Offer insight, inducing but not limited to helping Maria out with her breaking the news to her fiancee, getting Olivia some training in her gift
-[X] Father of Hosts: It's not often someone gets a business card from Odin, or maybe it is, you are no expert on Norse Gods turned private military contractors, go talk to him and see what he wants and what he has to offer
-[X] The Bridges of the Spirit, continue your training with Brother Divsimar not in the ways of the spirit but the mind, the Bridge of Dreams
-[X] Get ready for your meeting with Queen of Winter Fae: prepare a suitable meeting place, and preemptively gather intel with your crown. Lydia's library and treasury probably have something that can be used as a focus; Harry might be able to suggest something too.

[X] With Odin, and Last Station
 
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I want to meet Odin before Mab, Last Station can wait a month.
Last station actions aren't just about fixing up the place, but also take care of our gang down there. I assume that they will be mostly self sufficient by the time we finish fixing the place.

I would sooner regularly skip school.
 
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You know what, proposing my own plan:

[X] With Odin, and Last Station
-[X] Attend school you have friends at school and you would like the memories of senior year and graduation even if they won't be teaching you anything worthwhile (If neither School nor getting your GED is chosen Molly will systematically skip class)
-[X] Deal with the servants of Karuri, diplomatically or otherwise they must be removed from the city before their darkness can spread. If you know anything about the Yama Kings, and you know an enough to make a soul uneasy, this is unlikely to be resolved without bloodshed
-[X] The Bridges of the Spirit, continue your training with Brother Divsimar not in the ways of the spirit but the mind, the Bridge of Dreams
-[X] Father of Hosts: It's not often someone gets a business card from Odin, or maybe it is, you are no expert on Norse Gods turned private military contractors, go talk to him and see what he wants and what he has to offer
-[X] Restoring the Last Station: Restoration efforts have been going well and according to Adam some more of the people down in the tunnels have shown interest in their newfound wealth and comfort (3/8)
-[X] Get ready for your meeting with Queen of Winter Fae: prepare a suitable meeting place, and preemptively gather intel with your crown. Lydia's library and treasury probably have something that can be used as a focus; Harry might be able to suggest something too.
 
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COMMENTARY
Lol Charity. The woman will always have a type advantage at reading Molly.
I consider it a victory everytime we get into a social contest with her and manage a draw.

Interesting look at Molly potion making.
I guess we have some idea of why stuff like Alchemy and Enchanting are gonna be a cash sink, if we're going to be doing shit like using Peruvian salt and the like.

Looks like Molly might have to do a fair bit of traveling to do some raw material collection.

Never change Bob. Bob and Lash must be enjoying the popcorn everytime Molly shows up.
She's either throwing up deep occult lore, exciting new magical threats, or UST that Dresden resolutely ignores.
When you're a disembodied spirit, this is sorta like a cross between watching a daytime soap and the first couple seasons of 24.


What do you do?
6 AP Available
Hmm.
Noting there are no options for Path training this turn, just Bridge.
Not that we have the free actions anyway.

Okay, Bob rolled ridiculously well.
Things like this remind you that he's not (just)a spirit of lechery, but a spirit of knowledge more than six hundred years old, who has worked with great and terrible wizards.

I'm happy that it worked, but maybe you should not show us that?
We want to be surprised if things did not work out after all.
Objection:
There is no logical reason to hide that roll, or rolls of things we are making.

Alchemy is either Craft or Occult, both Key abilities.
Additionally, we will have the finished product on hand, and thus will know whether we succeeded or not.
We will always know if we got it right.

At worst we burn WP for an autosux every time to eliminate the chance of a botch.
We are doing the mental Bridge for now.
Are we supposed to leave it hanging?
We have already started Dragons Speed; its currently at 8/15.

One of the reasons I had issues last turn when we picked Dragons Speed instead of going to Meng is that we needed Meng more, and in doing so this way we have essentially commited ourselves to two Bridge actions by taking Meng as a mandatory action in addition to continuing along the other Qiao tree.


@DragonParadox
QUESTION
I assume we have told Dresden(and Thomas) that there are Jade Court akuma in Chicago?
Right after telling Michael?
Or is that part of the Kakuri action?
 
@DragonParadox
QUESTION
I assume we have told Dresden(and Thomas) that there are Jade Court akuma in Chicago?
Right after telling Michael?
Or is that part of the Kakuri action?

You told them yeah, I did not want to have multiple updates of rehashing what you already know. Hary is busy up to his eyebrows, hence the potion and Michael is following your lead since with Shiro dead the Knights do not have an expert on the shen and the Wan Kuei anymore
 
-[X] Get ready for your meeting with Queen of Winter Fae: prepare a suitable meeting place, and preemptively gather intel with your crown. Lydia's library and treasury probably have something that can be used as a focus; Harry might be able to suggest something too.
Mab called the meeting.
By custom, she has to be hosting. Probably in Chicago, but she's hosting.
 
Mab called the meeting.
By custom, she has to be hosting. Probably in Chicago, but she's hosting.
We are calling upon Mab at a time of our choosing.
And that is how you can now add quizzically exasperated to the list of expressions you had seen on Queen Mab's face.

"As the wizard has pointed out that this is not the best place to have a conversation in, can I count upon you to call upon me so that you may listen to my proposal soon?"
It's up to us to host, since we'll be summoning her to wherever we are.
 
I think the looted base at the bottom of the lake is a good place to host. Isolated, a message about what happens to our enemies, easy to cool down to subzero temperature, water makes for easier retreat or fight, it's a place of desolation and we don't really care about if it gets wreaked.

We should of course prepare inhumanly great iced tea on china to set the proper mood. The right additives should stop it from freezing.
 
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We are calling upon Mab at a time of our choosing.
It's up to us to host, since we'll be summoning her to wherever we are.
Fair enough.
Thank you for the citation.
I think the looted base at the bottom of the lake is a good place to host. Isolated, a message about what happens to our enemies, easy to cool down to subzero temperature, water makes for easier retreat or fight, it's a place of desolation and we don't really care about if it gets wreaked. We should of course prepare inhumanly great iced tea on china to set the proper mood. The right additives should stop it from freezing.
God no.
You do not host the freaking Queen of Air and Darkness in a looted Fomori base. Its like hosting a meeting with POTUS in a former Al Qaeda safehouse with blood and bulletholes in the walls.

Thats the sort of insult that comes back to cost us dearly.
And since we're the hosts, any insult or attack they come under from a third party is our responsibility. And frankly our fucking fault.
We're trying to do diplomacy, not to rack up new grudges.

You either shell out a couple thousand dollars to hire out a proper conference room in a three to five star Chicago hotel thats cooled and catered. Or you talk to Mac and hire out his place for a couple hours.
Either will do, with Mac's place having the added benefit of being Protected.

You're hosting the head of state of the most powerful supernatural nation in this reality.
Keep that in mind.
 
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Of course we are going to do a quick clean up, but Mab doesn't like the Fomori either.

Also what attack do you expect at one of the most isolated places possible?
 
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Fair enough.
Thank you for the citation.

God no.
You do not host the freaking Queen of Air and Darkness in a looted Fomori base. Its like hosting a meeting with POTUS in a former Al Qaeda safehouse with blood and bulletholes in the walls.

Thats the sort of insult that comes back to cost us dearly.
And since we're the hosts, any insult or attack they come under from a third party is our responsibility. And frankly our fucking fault.
We're trying to do diplomacy, not to rack up new grudges.

You either shell out a couple thousand dollars to hire out a proper conference room in a three to five star Chicago hotel thats cooled and catered. Or you talk to Mac and hire out his place for a couple hours.
Either will do, with Mac's place having the added benefit of being Protected.

You're hosting the head of state of the most powerful supernatural nation in this reality.
Keep that in mind.
Mac might work. I was thinking our diamond making warehouse after a sufficient renovation, but an accorded neutral ground is probably better. Even jf we lose out on WHWH.
 
Mac might work. I was thinking our diamond making warehouse after a sufficient renovation, but an accorded neutral ground is probably better. Even jf we lose out on WHWH.
Mab is likely empowered by the cold as well so it likely doesn't exactly give us an advantage it's more about being hospitable.
 
Of course we are going to do a quick clean up, but Mab doesn't like the Fomori either.
Biden doesnt like Al-Qaeda either.
Doesnt change the fact that he and the US State Department would be insulted, and frankly suspicious about your intentions, if you arranged a diplomatic summit in Bin Ladin's former compound in Abbotabad.

It was a Fomori base.
There are Ways there that lead to Fomor territory, giving Fomori forces easy access.
The Fomor may be signatories of the Accords, but are enemies of both Winter and Summer.

And now, after Molly killed a Fomor lord and wiped out his project, you want her to use that same spot to host Mab, within staging distance of Fomor military forces. Giving the Fomor at best a shot at capping both Mab and Molly, and at worst putting her in trouble with Winter for knowingly putting their head of state in a position of peril.

Its not a good plan. At all.
Mac might work. I was thinking our diamond making warehouse after a sufficient renovation, but an accorded neutral ground is probably better. Even jf we lose out on WHWH.
Nah. Our warehouse is a warehouse, not a meeting place. And is situated in a bad area of Chicago, to boot. I dont want to have to be responsible for Mab's security from a bunch of human criminals, or having to save human criminals from Mab or her entourage, if she brings one.

What someone like Cat Sit would be entitled to do to a bunch of hapless crims interfering with his boss is not something we want to see. Like I said, head of state of a nationstate; the entourage of a mortal head of state would be entitled to open fire at lesser threats.


Its been less than four months since Dresden met both Winter Lady Maeve and Summer Lady Lily at Mac's place, just this June.
And Dresden met Odin at Mac's place in Cold Days iirc. Its the designated default neutral meeting place for supernaturals, where you dont have to worry about the security because its guaranteed by every big dog.

We can do the hotel thing, but we'd be responsible for security there.
Mac is probably a better choice, unless someone brings up a reason we shouldnt.
 
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