Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

@Prospalz
Okay, quote:
Small Favor chapter 13 said:
The mantis's head whipped toward me, and it screamed again. It ripped out the ax and came to its feet in the same instant.
"Get clear!" Gard rasped.
I did, diving to the side and going prone.
The wounded woman emptied her assault rifle into the mantis in two or three seconds of howling thunder, shooting from the hip from about three feet away.
Words cannot convey how messy that was. Suffice to say that it would probably cost more to remove the ichor stains than it would to strip and refinish the walls, the floor, and the ceiling.
Gard gasped, and the empty rifle slid from her fingers. She shuddered and pressed her hands to her belly.
I moved to her side and picked her up, trying not to strain her stomach. She was heavy. Not like a sumo wrestler or anything, but she was six feet tall in her bare feet and had more than the usual amount of muscle. She felt at least as heavy as Thomas. I grunted with effort, got her settled, and started for the door.
Gard let out a croaking little whimper, and more blood welled from her injury. Faint pangs of sympathetic pain flickered through my own belly. Her eyes had rolled back in her head. It had taken a lot to beat Gard's apparent pain threshold, but it looked like the visit from the Denarian-and the activity it had forced on her-had done it.
The day just couldn't have gotten any more disturbing.
Until the splattered mass that had been the Denarian started quivering and moving.
"Oh, you have got to be kidding me!" I shouted.
Where there had been one big bug thing, now there were thousands of little mantislike creatures. They all began bounding toward the center of the room, piling up into two mounds that gradually began to take on the shape of insectoid legs.

The shotgun downstairs roared again, and running footsteps approached.
"Harry!" Thomas shouted. He appeared at the bottom of the stairs, sword in hand, just as I hurried out the door, still toting Gard.
"We had company up here!" I called. I started down the stairs as quickly and carefully as I could.
"I think there are three more of them down here," Thomas said, making way for me. He took note of Gard. "Holy crap."
A corpse lay on the floor of the entry hall. It was black and furry and big, and I couldn't tell much more about it than that. The top four-fifths of its head were gone and presumably accounted for the mess all over the opposite wall. Its guts were spilled out on either side of its body, steaming in the cold air drifting through the shattered front door. Hendricks crouched in the shadowed living room, covering the entryway with his shotgun.
Something scraped over the floorboards of the ceiling above us.
"What's that?" Thomas asked.
"A giant preying mantis demon, dragging itself over the floor."
Thomas blinked at me.
"That's just a guess," I said.
Hendricks growled, "How is she?"
"Not good," I said. "This is a bad spot to be in. No defenses here, not even a threshold to work with. We need to bail."
"Shouldn't move her," Hendricks said. "It could kill her."
"Not moving her will kill her," I countered. "Us too."
Hendricks stared at me, but he didn't argue.
Thomas was already reaching into his pocket. He was tense, his eyes flicking restlessly, maybe in an attempt to track things that he could hear moving around outside. He dug out his key ring and held it with his teeth. Then he took his saber in one hand, that monster Desert Eagle in the other, and started humming "Froggy Went A-Courting" under his breath.
Gard had slowly grown limp, and her head lolled bonelessly. I was having trouble keeping her steady. "Hendricks," I said, nodding at Gard.
Without a word he set the shotgun aside and took the woman from me. I saw his eyes as he did, touched with worry and fear-and not for himself. He took her very gently, something I would never have imagined him doing, and growled, "How do I know you won't leave us behind? Let them rip us apart while you run?"
"You don't," I said curtly, picking up my staff. "Stay if you want. These things will kill you both; I guarantee it. Or you take a chance with us. Your call."
Hendricks glared at me for a moment, but when he glanced down at the unconscious woman in his arms, the rocky scowl faded. He nodded once.
"Harry?" Thomas asked. "How do you want to do this?"
"We head straight for your oil tanker," I said. "Shortest route between two points and all."
"They'll have the door covered," Thomas said.
"I hope so."
"Okay," he said, rolling his eyes. "As long as there's a plan."
Footsteps crossed the floor above us, and paused at the top of the stairs.
Thomas's gun swiveled toward the stairs. I didn't turn. I covered the doorway.
A voice like out-of-tune violin strings stroked by a rotting cobra hide drifted down the stairs. "Wizard."
"I hear you," I said.
"This situation might be resolved without further conflict. Are you willing to parley?"
"Why not," I answered. I didn't turn away from the door.
"Have I your word of safe passage?"
"You do."
"Then you have mine," the voice answered.
"Whatever," I said. I lowered my voice to an almost subvocal whisper I was sure only Thomas could hear. "Watch them. They'll try something the second they get a chance."
"Why give them the opportunity?" Thomas murmured.
"Because we might find out something important by talking. It's harder to question corpses. Switch with me."
We traded places, and I kept my staff pointed at the stairs as the mantis-thing came down them. It crouched on the topmost step it could occupy while still maintaining visual contact with the entry hall. It looked none the worse for wear for being blown to hamburger by Gard's rifle.
It crouched, the motion eerie and alien, and tilted its head almost entirely to the horizontal, first one way, then the other, as it looked at us. Then its stomach heaved. For a second I thought it was throwing up, as a yellow-and-pink mucus began to emerge from its mouth. After a second, though, it lifted its clamplike claws and gripped its head, then peeled it back and away from the mucus, the motion disturbingly akin to someone donning a too-small turtleneck sweater. A human face emerged from the mucus and gunk, while the split carapace of the head flopped about on its chest and upper back.
The Denarian looked like she was about fifteen years old, except for her hair, which was silvery grey, short, and plastered to her skull. She had huge and gorgeous green eyes, a heart-shaped face, and a delicate, pointy chin. Her skin was pale and clear, her cheekbones high, her features lovely and symmetrical. The second set of green eyes and the sigil of angelic script still glowed faintly on her forehead.
She smiled slowly. "I wasn't expecting the chain. I thought fire and force were your weapons of choice."
"You were standing on top of someone I knew," I said. "I didn't feel like burning her or blasting her through the wall."
"Foolish," the girl murmured.
"I'm still here."
"But so am I."
"You have five seconds to get to the fucking point," I said. "I'm not going to let you stall while your buddies get into position."
Mantis Girl narrowed her eyes. The eyes on her forehead narrowed as well. Trиs creepy. She nodded at Hendricks and Gard. "My business is with them. Not you, O Warden of the White Council. Give them to me. You may leave in peace. Once they are dead, I will gather my compatriots and we will depart the city without harm to any innocents."
I grunted. "What if I need them alive?"
"If you wish, I can wait until you have interrogated them."
"Yeah, that's what I want: you, standing around behind my back."
She lifted a talon. "I give you my solemn word. No harm will come to you or your companion."
"Tempting," I said.
"Shall I add in material reward as well?" Mantis Girl asked. "I'll pay you two hundred thousand, in cash."
"Why on earth would you do that?"
She shrugged a shoulder. "My quarrel is with the upstart Baron and his subjects-not the White Council. I would prefer to demonstrate my respect to your people, instead of causing an untoward altercation with them over the matter of your death."
"Uh-huh."
Her smile turned sharper. "If it pleases you, I might offer to entertain you, once business is done."
I let out a harsh burst of laughter. "Oh," I said, still chortling. "Oh, oh, oh. That's funny."
She blinked and stared at me, uncomprehending.
The expression made me laugh even harder. "You…you want me to…I mean, Hell's bells, do you think I don't know what happens to a mantis's mate once the deed is done?"
She bared her teeth in sudden anger. They were shiny and black.
"You want me to trust you," I went on, still laughing, "and you think waving some bling and some booty at me is going to get it done? God, that's so cute I could just put you in my pocket."
"Do not deny me what is mine, wizard," she snarled. "I will have them. Make a pact with me. I will honor it."
"Yeah," I said. "I've seen the way you people honor your pacts. Let me make you a counteroffer. Give me Marcone, safe and whole, and get out of town, now, and I'll let you live."
"Suppose your offer appeals. Why should I believe you would allow us to leave in peace?"
I gave her a faint smile and quietly paraphrased a dead friend. "Because I know what your word is worth, Denarian. And you know the worth of mine."
She stared at me for a moment. Then she said, "I will consult my companions and return in five minutes."
I bowed my head slightly to her. She returned the gesture and started up the stairs again.
She vanished from sight. Glass broke somewhere upstairs.
Then a red-and-black blur flashed down the stairs toward us, simultaneously with a chorus of hellish cries from outside.
Treachery doesn't work so well when the other guy expects it, and I'd had the spell ready to go since the second she'd turned her back. Mantis Girl didn't get to the bottom of the stairs before I pointed my staff at her and snarled, "Forzare!"
A hammer of pure kinetic energy slammed against her. She went flying back the way she'd come, and when she reached the top of the stairs she kept going, crashing through the wall of the house with a tremendous crunch.
No time to lose. Something came charging through the doorway, to be met by Thomas's sword and pistol. I didn't get a good look at it, but got an impression of spiraling antlers and green scales. I drew in my will, pointed my staff at the front wall of the house and murmured, "Forzare," sending out a slow pulse of motion. I let it press up against the front wall of the house, and then fed more energy into it, hardening it into a single striking surface.
Then I drew back and really let loose, roaring "Forzare!" at the top of my lungs. I unleashed everything I had into a blast of energy, which struck against the plate of force I'd just created. There was an enormous sound of screaming wood and steel, and the entire front wall of the house blasted free from its frame.
Demonic voices howled. I turned to find Thomas taking advantage of the distraction to whip his saber through scything arcs, rondello-style, cutting his opponent to ribbons. The Denarian bounded away, screaming in brassy pain.
"Dammit!" Thomas screamed at me. "That's a brand-new car!"
"Quit whining and go!" I shouted back, suiting words to action. The front wall of the house had come down like a tidal wave, shattering into a small ocean of rubble, covering the hood of the Hummer. Somewhere beneath the rubble I could hear the other Denarians trying to get free.
We rushed for the Hummer and piled in. Thomas got it started just as Mantis Girl sailed down from overhead and landed on the hood of the Hummer, denting it in sharply.
"God dammit!" Thomas snarled. He slapped the Hummer into reverse and started driving backward-while emptying his gun into Mantis Girl. Bursts of fluttering insect forms flew up from the gunshots instead of sprays of blood, but judging by the screaming it hurt her plenty. She tumbled back off the hood and vanished.
Thomas manhandled the Hummer into a turn, and we left, heading back out into the heavy snowfall.
We all rode in silence for several moments while our heart rates slowed and the terror-fueled adrenaline rush faded.
Then Thomas said, "I don't think we learned much."
"The hell we didn't," I said.
"Like what?"
"We know that there are more than five Denarians in town. And we know that they're signatories of the Accords-who apparently object to Marcone's recent elevation."
Thomas grunted acknowledgment. "What now?"
I shook my head wearily. That last spell had been a doozy. "Now? I think…" I turned my head and studied the unconscious Gard. "I think I'd better call the Council."
Small Favor chapter 14 said:
Thomas grunted and checked the rearview mirror. Gard was still unconscious, but breathing. Hendricks's eyes were shut, his mouth slightly open. I didn't blame him. I hadn't been standing watch over a wounded comrade all night, and I felt like I could have taken a nap, too.
"What were those things?" Thomas asked.
"The Knights of the Blackened Denarius," I replied. "You remember Michael's sword? The nail worked into the hilt?"
"Sure," Thomas said.
"There are two others like it," I said. "Three swords. Three nails."
Thomas's eyes widened for a moment. "Wait. Those nails? From the Crucifixion?"
I nodded. "Pretty sure."
"And those things were what? Michael's opposite number?"
"Yeah. Each of those Denarian bozos has a silver coin."
"Three silver coins," Thomas said. "I'm drawing a blank."
"Thirty," I corrected him.
Thomas made a choking sound. "Thirty?"
"Potentially. But Michael and the others have several of them hidden away at the moment."
"Thirty pieces of silver," Thomas said, understanding.
I nodded. "Each coin has the spirit of one of the Fallen trapped inside. Whoever possesses one of the coins can draw upon the Fallen angel's power. They use it to shapeshift into those forms you saw, heal wounds, all kinds of fun stuff."
"They tough?"
"Certifiable nightmares," I said. "A lot of them have been alive long enough to develop some serious talent for magic, too."
"Huh," Thomas said. "The one who came through the door didn't seem like such a badass. Ugly, sure, but he wasn't Superman."
"Maybe you got lucky," I said. "As long as they have the coins, 'hard to kill' doesn't begin to describe it."
"Ah," Thomas said. "That explains it, then."
"What?" I asked.
Thomas reached into his pants pocket and drew out a silver coin a little larger than a nickel, blackened with age, except for the shape of a single sigil, shining cleanly through the tarnish. "When I gutted Captain Ugly, this went flying out."

"Hell's bells!" I spat, and flinched away from the coin.
Thomas twitched in surprise, and the Hummer went into a slow slide on the snow. He turned into it and regained control of the vehicle without ever taking his eyes off me. "Whoa, Harry. What?"
I pressed my side up against the door of the Hummer, getting as far as I physically could from the thing. "Look, just…just don't move, all right?"
He arched an eyebrow. "Ooookay. Why not?"
"Because if that thing touches your skin, you're screwed," I said. "Shut up a second and let me think."
The gloves. Thomas had been wearing gloves earlier, when fingering Justine's scarf. He hadn't touched the coin with his skin, or he'd already know how much trouble he was in. Good. But the coin was a menace, and I strongly suspected that the entity trapped inside it might be able to influence the physical world around it in subtle ways-enough to go rolling away from its former owner, for example, or to somehow manipulate Thomas into dropping or misplacing it.
Containment. It had to be contained. I fumbled at my pockets. The only container I was carrying was an old Crown Royal whiskey bag, the one that held my little set of gaming dice. I dumped them out into my pocket and opened the bag.
I already had a glove on my left hand. My paw had recovered significantly from the horrible burns it had gotten several years before, but it still wasn't what you'd call pretty. I kept it covered out of courtesy to everyone who might glance at it. I held the little bag open with two fingers of my left hand and said, "Put it in here. And for God's sake, don't drop it or touch me with it."
Thomas's eyes widened further. He bit his lower lip and moved his hand very carefully, until he could drop the inoffensive little disk into the Crown Royal bag.
Consider what it takes to gut a Denarian in warform that just attacked you by surprise.
And to make a second one run. Same scene.

We can either decide that Thomas Raith is very, very lucky,
Or that he's been sandbagging for a very long time. Given that this is a guy who was tough enough to survive running into the Wild Hunt on the night of Dead Beat, and survived captivity and torture from a naagloshii in Turn Coat, I know what my bet is.

But its not my call to make for this quest.

@DragonParadox
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While I still awake, Word of Jim:
How many sisters does Thomas have?
I can't find that notebook, grr. I think it's nine. Papa Raith's bodyguards minus one who is utterly bonkers and kept more or less in the attic, and Inari, the one who got away.

2011 Atlanta Signing
The three families of the White Court feed on different emotions, is that like knife, spoon, fork, or can they mix it up?
They can mix it up, and it's one of the things they fight about a lot, about what they do. There's all this "you are what you eat" sort of thing in play, and the different houses have different aspects [unintelligible] divide things up by territory. And you could feed on all sorts of stuff. You could probably be a White Court vampire that fed on the warm happy feeling that people get when they're holding a puppy. Although you'd be a really….you'd probably sparkle if you did that. [Unintelligible] it might actually be fun to show that in some future files.

Unverified WoJ from the 2011 Naperville signing:
'Are there White Court vampire wizards?'

Yes, there are. Thomas is middle-of-the-road in power and [ed: think I'm remembering this correctly] the strongest don't get as strong as mortal wizards [/ed], but they can pull off some strong tricks with their Hunger.

2015 Grid Daily interview
Question about Lord Raith. In Blood Rites, Lara bests him in the fight, but in the White Knight he's still up, walking and talking, with her controlling him. How does that work? Is he a ventriloquist dummy?
He appears to be in charge, but he isn't, because Lara can do terrible things to him if he doesn't play along, and that's his option now. So he has to play along with Lara and wear the target on his chest while she runs things from behind the scenes. Everyone else in the White Court, it doesn't take them very long to figure out this is what's going on. But that's the play that they have going on, everyone has to pretend that Lord Raith is the one in charge even though they know better. Until it comes time to unseat Lara, and they'll have to take Raith out of his position in order to get Lara out of hers. Lara, at the same time, she's got to ferociously protect his position. It gets very byzantine in the White Court. They've basically got a figurehead emperor, and a pile of ministers with the real power. Lara happens to be on top of that pile of ministers at the moment.

2016 Reddit Podcast Q&A
How old is Lord Raith?
He's a couple thousand years old. He's got 2 thousand years of paranoia kinda built up. Plus he's been absolutely bonkers the past 30 years or so. He's hardly functional as a vampire, he's getting to where he's not evne functional as a figure head for much longer. That's going to be a problem for lara to deal with.

Will we find out about Lord Raith's library?
There's kind of a long game going on in the Dresden Files, and Lord Raith has been involved in it in the last couple of cycle's it's gone on. He's been trying to educate himself about it, and he meant to be a player in it this time it came around, but getting involved with Margret kind of screwed him over.
Lara's got his library now and knows everything he knows, which explains a lot of her actions.

later in the video
Paraphrased: A gestating Wampire's Hunger feeds off the mother in the same way the fetus does in order to generate enough essence to sustain itself until later, and then it goes dormant until the teenage years.
And there goes that.
 
Skavis are the ones with the most feeding issues.
Despair is not exactly a renewable resource the way the others are.

Hmm, I wonder if Skavis are already experienced in setting up and running charities? What better way to find lots of people at their lowest point - and maybe even to help them from time to time so that you can keep feeding on them later.

[x] Uju32
 
I still think we shouldn't be so free to call people Elders.

6+ Disciplines are supposed to be really rare and you don't need them for a strong build.

A combat-focused vamp of the 8th or higher generation can already be a real heavyweight, like Theo Bell, the exemplary Brujah from VtM.
No point above 5, yet a widely feared man.
 
The Fae are markedly infamous for their ability to twist words, and it means that people try to avoid dealing with them as much as possible. That people deal with them anyway is a testament to just how inescapable a role they play in the setting.
We dont want
Everyone is twisty when they're on the clock to some extent. I'm not talking about screwing with our freely given word either, but there are limits on what's reasonable to share or expect from a first meeting.
distinctly remember Gard telling Marcone that Dresden was fated to die in that alley and that interfering would have repercussions.
And he laughs and says go ahead.
Marcone took a risk to save his life, one whose dimensions he hasnt really figured out even now.

Then there was when he backed up Dresden and the Knights against Nicodemus in Death Masks.
When he could just have skipped town and waited out the events.


No, you are thinking about White Night.
Im thinking of Blood Rites, where Dresden got Papa Raith to confess to having no loyalties for his children without knowing Dresden had arranged for Lara to be in earshot, subsequent to which Lara breaks his mind.

She could have eaten him there too; she was fresh, he wasnt, and there was no explicit truce between them.
She let him go. This is further buttressed in Peace Talks, where she thinks he betrayed her after he imprisoned Thomas, and takes it as a personal affront that she misjudged his character.
I think Marcone's actions were a mix of self interest and his intense desire to be a real player that is taken seriously by the supernatural. If he hides like that he can't claim that respect. Sure he took risks, but his entire life has been a study in risky gambles.

As to the stuff with Lara; it's worth remembering that wizards are scary as hell, especially when cornered. She has a case study in why they're dangerous even for those who think they know what they're dealing with right there in the form of her father.

The later example has moved into the realm of more long term relationships. I'm not suggesting we pantomime being a Jade for ages but that we have no real connection, history, or leverage with these people. I expect everything we say to them to immediately be exploited as much as it possibly can be.

If we do continue with them then we can get progressively clearer with less risk.
The same applies here.
Only to the extent of making the sale. Which is why I'm voting to talk about MiS's function even though I'd generally rather not tell anyone exactly how it works unless we have a hold on them.
He tried an Intimidation check in desperation when we first entered the room.
He didnt try one after we demonstrated the ability to suppress Isabella's Hunger. And it was after whatever it was he saw in Molly's aura during that event that he began to call her bodhittsava.
He's still playing games though, and isn't acting nearly as cautious as I'd expect. I just don't think this guy really knows enough about jades to be using that term as more than a flattering alternative to "really scary haunted corpse".
The entire A-plot of Blood Rites, which was based around the Pale King sabotaging an independent porn studio's first project with magic. They could have just trivially mind whammied Arturo Genosa's financial backers, bankers and all his major staff into withdrawing. They could even have whammied him.

Instead, you have the entire thing with the three strega and entropy curses.
Which suggests that Whampires are a lot more sparing about their willingness to openly use Whampire magic in their business affairs than we assume. Which fits with their stated preference for indirection and catspaws.
That whole thing was an independent shop wasn't it? He did some stuff with the court, but it wasn't part of their major web of influence peddling or anything. What we're talking about is a significantly larger operation exposed by a lone member's incompetence.

They don't always crush people's brains with their powers, but they are a significant part of how they control mortals and maintain power as an institution.

See the mind magic they used on that one lawyer even in a small time op.

See Kinkaid intimidating Dresden in Blood Rites. See Big Brother Gruff doing it in Small Favor. See random spider fae trying it in Turn Coat. See Dresden himself trying to intimidate the Winter Lady Maeve in Proven Guilty. Or when he tried to intimidate the Merlin in Changes.

A lot of the initial interactions in the Dresdenverse are threat displays and bluffs to get the other person to back down.

Note that OldSkavis didnt make any threats in his own name, or that of Madrigal Raith, but in the name of the Winter Court, the western supernatural community, AND the mortal world.
That's a fair point, but it's worth noting that they don't by default end with being friends. It isn't pro forma, it's predators sizing each other up for lunch and sometimes deciding to hunt together instead.

Which often only sticks while they're both full, to extend the metaphor a bit.

See Kinkaid actually trying to kill Dresden. Sure it was something he ordered himself, but if the money was right he would have done it for someone else.
 
I still think we shouldn't be so free to call people Elders.

6+ Disciplines are supposed to be really rare and you don't need them for a strong build.

A combat-focused vamp of the 8th or higher generation can already be a real heavyweight, like Theo Bell, the exemplary Brujah from VtM.
No point above 5, yet a widely feared man.
I've only referred to him as an elder because he's the oldest person in the room and we still don't have a name for him.

Not quite related to that, but still relevant, I don't actually think he's as powerful or dangerous as a lot of y'all are assuming. Yes, he's displayed some abilities that would require a stronger WoD Vampire to possess, but WoD and DF are very different settings and we already know DP isn't trying to do a direct 1-to-1 conversion. I could be wrong, of course, though I don't think I am.
 
I've only referred to him as an elder because he's the oldest person in the room and we still don't have a name for him.

Not quite related to that, but still relevant, I don't actually think he's as powerful or dangerous as a lot of y'all are assuming. Yes, he's displayed some abilities that would require a stronger WoD Vampire to possess, but WoD and DF are very different settings and we already know DP isn't trying to do a direct 1-to-1 conversion. I could be wrong, of course, though I don't think I am.
It would be funny if this guy was an elder in the same way these reds were 'elite':


He's shown more flexibility, so I think he's more dangerous than that, but it would be entertaining to learn later that we could have folded him in half this entire time. :V

Right now I still think he's in the category of things that could at very least make a mess if we tried to off them though.
 
I've only referred to him as an elder because he's the oldest person in the room and we still don't have a name for him.

Not quite related to that, but still relevant, I don't actually think he's as powerful or dangerous as a lot of y'all are assuming. Yes, he's displayed some abilities that would require a stronger WoD Vampire to possess, but WoD and DF are very different settings and we already know DP isn't trying to do a direct 1-to-1 conversion. I could be wrong, of course, though I don't think I am.
I was mostly talking about Thomas.

This guy would require a lot of fast and loose rules to have Fortitude 7 without being a serious fighter.

But I think nothing Thomas has shown in canon couldn't be explained by good skills and Disciplines at 5 or less.
The man is 40-something for god's sake. In WoD a vamp of that age and with his pedigree would be a talented newcomer to some and prime diablery-bait for others, but never a real Elder in his own right.
 
Oh and for the second part about their ressources, not all elder Wan Kuei are necessarily part of their major court-system, there are Heretical Dharmas and Akuma. So far Skavis has seen us acting alone and in a relativly weird manner for an old vamp, that does not exactly say we are here on official business from the East.

One of the things that make heretical dharmas heretical is that they haven't successfully produced any bodhittsava.
 

I'm going to have to think on this one, what I have been mostly rolling for Thomas are social powers and skills, combat may need a revamp (pun half intended) of his sheet.

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Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Jan 25, 2023 at 9:08 AM, finished with 101 posts and 18 votes.

  • [X] Be honest as far as it goes, as long as she obeys you
    -[X] Explain who you are
    [X] Your hunger is merely forestalled for the duration of your service. To tame it, it must be sated with a mortal life's worth of essence... through there is no requirement to partake from one who contains merely one lifetime's worth. I must admit curiosity as to what you will choose - few of the Hungry can say their soul is yet unstained by murder.
    -[X] Should she make use the gifts her hunger grants her, she would not lose control, but would need to replenish the energy expended
    -[X] Get her e-mail address and phone number, and give her a burner e-mail to contact you in exchange
    -[X] STUNT: "Your hunger is merely forestalled for the duration of your service. To tame it, it must be sated with a mortal life's worth of essence... through there is no requirement to partake from one who contains merely one lifetime's worth. I must admit curiosity as to what you will choose - few of the Hungry can say their soul is yet unstained by murder". You fish out Clippy from your pocket, moving it in such a way to make sure that the faces of the vampires are caught in their lenses: "Now, what e-mail and phone number can I use to contact you later? I feel we should talk more when after you had time to process. And to keep you, and more importantly, your hunger, occupied, I give you this command - prepare for our next meeting. Learn of the supernatural. Meditate on what path you wish to follow. Do your homework."
    [X] Your hunger is merely forestalled for the duration of your service. To tame it, it must be sated with a mortal life's worth of chi... through there is no requirement to partake from one who contains merely one lifetime's worth. I must admit curiosity as to what you will choose - few of the Hungry can say their soul is yet unstained by murder.
 
Winning Vote
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Jan 25, 2023 at 9:08 AM, finished with 101 posts and 18 votes.

  • [X] Be honest as far as it goes, as long as she obeys you
    -[X] Explain who you are
    [X] Your hunger is merely forestalled for the duration of your service. To tame it, it must be sated with a mortal life's worth of essence... through there is no requirement to partake from one who contains merely one lifetime's worth. I must admit curiosity as to what you will choose - few of the Hungry can say their soul is yet unstained by murder.
    -[X] Should she make use the gifts her hunger grants her, she would not lose control, but would need to replenish the energy expended
    -[X] Get her e-mail address and phone number, and give her a burner e-mail to contact you in exchange
    -[X] STUNT: "Your hunger is merely forestalled for the duration of your service. To tame it, it must be sated with a mortal life's worth of essence... through there is no requirement to partake from one who contains merely one lifetime's worth. I must admit curiosity as to what you will choose - few of the Hungry can say their soul is yet unstained by murder". You fish out Clippy from your pocket, moving it in such a way to make sure that the faces of the vampires are caught in their lenses: "Now, what e-mail and phone number can I use to contact you later? I feel we should talk more when after you had time to process. And to keep you, and more importantly, your hunger, occupied, I give you this command - prepare for our next meeting. Learn of the supernatural. Meditate on what path you wish to follow. Do your homework."
    [X] Your hunger is merely forestalled for the duration of your service. To tame it, it must be sated with a mortal life's worth of chi... through there is no requirement to partake from one who contains merely one lifetime's worth. I must admit curiosity as to what you will choose - few of the Hungry can say their soul is yet unstained by murder.
 
Arc 5 interlude 1: Lucky Number Six
Lucky Number Six

8th of September 2006 A.D.

Isabela Syliga distantly wondered if she had gripped some kind of monkey's paw without meaning to today. She had wanted her Reaping to be special, who didn't after all, to rise within the ranks of the court with some greater meaning than finding a junkie in the gutter somewhere. It's not like she believed the horror stories the some of the younger Awakened told about the Reaping, needing to feast on the flesh of the mortal or break their bones and feast on living narrow but still it calmed her nerves to be with an Elder like Uncle Leinth. If the kids of the White Court were like sand, unshaped and prone to get into everything and most of the Awakened were like glass after a thunderstorm, beautiful to look at and likely to cut the hand that carelessly touched them then Uncle Leinth was like that fancy tinted bullet proof glass, he'd seen it all, done it all and didn't give a rat's ass how he came off even to the highborn, the Skavis themselves.

She remembered like it was yesterday asking her father who the 'ugly man' was at great-grandfather's funeral. Even at not-quite-seven Bela had known that all the important people, the powerful people were pretty and dangerous, like rattlesnakes. So it was not strange that everyone there was looking down their noses at the strange man, just that they had let him in at all. It turned out it was great-grand-father's great-great uncle...

Her father had meant that as a warning, not as she had taken it an invitation to go over and ask 'are you older than Duke Skavis?' Uncle Lenith had asked her why the question and she's just replied ''Cause you're a six on my scale."

"Scale?" He sounded bored.

"My very own patented risk taking scale," she had answered boldly. "One's a boring life, ten's a remarkable death. "

Looking back on the moment now the girl realized he was using his Presence on her just not in the usual way, not to draw in but just cut through the bullshit. It had by his own account been centuries since someone younger than fifty had approached them of their own free will at Court events. Occasionally she would wonder if the reason why he would let her stick around is because the fact that a kid was braver than them would make most of the others extra-uncomfortable, but like most old people he did like to ramble and tell stories of his youth if you knew how to poke them.

Certainly when the time had come for Bela to seek a patron she had not seriously thought he'd take her on, but she had done it for the flash, the street cred. And then she had gotten the parchment-and-calligraphy acceptance letter.

"We are not creatures of instinct alone sitha, the Hunger is the least of what defines us," he had told her as they turned onto the cul-de-sac. "It is by the reasons we feed that we live or we perish. Some claim that we are as lions picking out the weakest of the herd. Fools have not seem a lion that was not behind iron and glass. Mortals are the herd indeed for they are many and they hold kinship with each other, but it is not of beasts so fragile as the gazelle, more akin to the aurochs fit to stampede over all of us should we give them cause to look up from the ground."

And then a dragon had flown into the house through the window she had left carelessly open. Oh not a real dragon, she was shaped like a girl, a few inches taller than Bela herself, her hair shot though with green, pink and black, her eyes as pale blue as Bela's namesake syliga, the Evil Eye. Her Presence was neither dark allure nor flame of honesty. It was a threat, a malediction.

I wanted an interesting Reaping, not this interesting. Even now she could feel the new strength in her limbs, the giddy swiftness of Awakening, but ever since she had agreed to serve the strange elder she could not feel the chill bloom of need. Blunt honesty had served her well so far: "So when's my hunger going to come back?"

"Whenever you leave my service." demon girl said. "And therein lies a misunderstanding I cannot allow to stand. I am not of the Ten Thousand, young or old, my power comes from elsewhere. My name is Molly Carpenter."

"Verily?" Uncle Leinth. "Carpenter?"

Bela was not sure what was so important about woodworking, but she did not like the way his hand was inching closer to the front of his jaket again.

"If you doubt my honesty you may speak to 'the wizard who was framed in the death of Detective Greene'."

The answer was clipped as it was cryptic: "Two names." I hate it when he does that.

Demon girl, Molly seemed to understand him though: "One of them is a nickname name the other was necessary to make the point. I've got four." Her words were falling out of formality as she spoke. She might have been the girl behind the counter at Hot Topic now it it weren't for being wrapped in terror.

"Why?"

"Preventing the loss of life..." There was a pause, a tilt of Uncle Leinth's head Bela could not read than the girl continued "Same reason."

That was when Bela got it, she would almost rather not have gotten it. Whatever a 'Carpenter' was they did not have great relations with the White Court, enough so that the girl might have been inclined to skip the pleasantries right to a fight. "I don't think I want to serve you," Bela said, en eerie twinge at the back of her head, like someone had woven her nerves into a guitar string.

"Are you sure?" the girl asked carefully. "You'll be right back where you started."

Minus the meaningful kill, the tone seemed to say, just another stupid kid on the sidelines, all the worse if demon girl turned out to be as young as Bela now suspected. What's more special than a reaping that isn't?

"Zio? On a scale from one to ten how risky would be to continue to serve her?"

The shadow of a smile settled on his pale face in memory. "Six."

Now resolved Bela nodded. "Uhm... so can we talk someplace where we aren't breaking and entering?"

"Sure what's your number?"

Now it was Bela's turn to be on familiar ground while her uncle looked on more than a bit bemused. Explaining all this to her parents would be wild, she thought as she waved goodbye to her new dread overlord, or whatever the proper term was.

Once the vampires are gone what do you do?

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OOC: Given that you guys are currently rolling Perception+Empathy Auto-Successes against what should be DC 8 I figured giving you an interlude from your new minion would not actually give you more information than Molly should have IC while also being more engaging narratively than other forms of exposition.
 
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She had wanted her Reaping to be special, who didn't after all, to rise within the ranks of the court with some greater meaning than finding a junkie in the gutter somewhere.
I hope people who voted for social resolution are satisfied with your new minion. I fully understand how upbringing and social circle influence a person, but does it excuse them? I don't think so.
 
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I hope people who voted for social resolution are satisfied with your new minion. I fully understand how upbringing and social circle influence a person, but does it excuse them? I don't think so.
I dunno, someone's who been indoctrinated from birth to believe a certain way gets a lot of leeway in my books for their actions. Now that she's a minion, we even get the chance to indoctrinate her to better (or at least more human) values!

In other words, I see this as an absolute win
 
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Gotta love super-perception.
I hope people who voted for social resolution are satisfied with your new minion.
As an infernal who's pet projects are all about trying to lift people out of the darkness, we'll continue encountering the occasions where we discovered that seemingly innocent minion X did something super-fucked up.

I kind of expected Jade dogs to be the first "oh, wait, these aren't actually good people" incident, but somehow we avoided focusing on the fact that they must have eaten a bunch of people.
 
I dunno, someone's who been indoctrinated from birth to believe a certain way gets a lot of leeway in my books for their actions. Now that she's a minion, we even get the chance to indoctrinate her to better (or at least more human) values!

I'm other words, I see this as an absolute win
Especially because they are not actually actions. We stopped her before she actually killed anyone. When presented with a path, one that didn't exist before we offered it, to NOT kill someone she took it. She took it for not the best reasons, but she didn't go "No, sorry, I'll pass and find a random junky on the way home." and she absolutely could have.
 
[X] Question Agent Greene to get her side of the story

I want to hear what she has to say.
I hope people who voted for social resolution are satisfied with your new minion. I fully understand how upbringing and social circle influence a person, but does it excuse them? I don't think so.
Children are malleable creatures, for good or ill. Isabella is a product of her family, and her family is made up of centuries or millennia old immortal monsters. She's still young, however, and hasn't really done anything worth condemning her yet.
 
Anyway, if we really are doing that whole "redemption of the dark" thing, we better be ready that sometimes some of our ppl gonna need a whole lot of industrial grade redemption'ing.

Indoctrinated girl who hasn't actually killed anyone yet, really doesn't register particularly high on the relative scale of fucked up people we are going to work with.
 
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Gotta love super-perception.

As an infernal who's pet projects are all about trying to lift people out of the darkness, we'll continue encountering the occasions where we discovered that seemingly innocent minion X did something super-fucked up.

I kind of expected Jade dogs to be the first "oh, wait, these aren't actually good people" incident, but somehow we avoided focusing on the fact that they must have eaten a bunch of people.
There is great difference between bunch of supernatural predators that live in the Undertown and a willing member of organization that aims to infiltrate institutions of society to create farms and hunting grounds. As there is difference between mugger and those who run a human trafficking operation. Do ghouls have a choice to abstain from their Hunger in Dresden files? The White Court vampires do, and it is not Inari Raith situation, our new friend knows what she was going to do.
 
There is great difference between bunch of supernatural predators that live in the Undertown and a willing member of organization that aims to infiltrate institutions of society to create farms and hunting grounds. As there is difference between mugger and those who run a human trafficking operation. Do ghouls have a choice to abstain from their Hunger in Dresden files? The White Court vampires do, and it is not Inari Raith situation, our new friend knows what she was going to do.
Is she willing? She's been brought up in a family and taught that the way they do things is good and proper. If you've never had the chance to learn what's right and wrong from someone's who not a monster, how much of a monster are you?

Could she have just left? Possibly. Would the thought occur to an indoctrinated teen with nowhere else to go? Probably not.
 
[X] Question Agent Greene to get her side of the story

I want to hear what she has to say.

Children are malleable creatures, for good or ill. Isabella is a product of her family, and her family is made up of centuries or millennia old immortal monsters. She's still young, however, and hasn't really done anything worth condemning her yet.
Yes, it seems also she lived in the complete isolation, where she had no chance to open a book about these small people.
 
Someday we will say "I am Margaret Katherine Amanda Carpenter conjure at your own risk.". But I am not going to feel comfortable doing that before essence 3.

We should ask Thomas if he has any use for a young Syliga. Otherwise I am not sure what duty we are going to assign her.

I guess that she can help us with our homework? Or we can have her work with the Jade dogs.
 
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