Drugs are more what keep them in line. That and a very controlling state. The Giver holds subversive memories, which are the highs and lows of humam existence, and isn't truly a victim, at least not more than others in the society.
General Exalted Thread
The Phoenixian
The Glacier Witch
- Location
- My own little world
Yup, more or less. It's not so much bad memories but all of memory, history, and capacity, good and bad, that can create problems. As in, to the point where it's either heavily implied or outright stated that colorblindness is a solution to racial prejudice. And likewise, euthanasia is the solution to reaching retirement age, hidden under the guise of leaving the community.
It's been a long long time since I read it but, basically, one of their societal policies is that twins are excess and so the one with a lower birthweight is given an injection and... "released."
- Location
- Pittsburgh, PA
Another factor to keep in mind is that if the twin they spare later becomes a ghost themselves, their hun and po souls are quite likely to then engage in mutual symbiosis/cannibalism with their Yuu-Zin counterparts, the quartet devouring each other until their collective mass melds into a single being. The family's domain in the Underworld is controlled by a trio of such beings, which drive their living descendants to continue the tradition so that future twins can have the same chance at true spiritual unity.
- Location
- Virginia
Sorry I wasn't clear; this isn't explicitly written up but is what I think is a reasonable inference from everything else. Like, of course the Sidereals would set up something like this (I'm thinking more in terms of the contained nature of the village, the rigid assignment of jobs, the careful psychological curtain around wrongthink than the specific memory-transfer mechanism). In fact I wouldn't be surprised if they were maintained as a place to raise infants who have received Sidereal shards.
The Phoenixian
The Glacier Witch
- Location
- My own little world
Aha, gotcha.
On that note, honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if multiple variations of The Giver's Community existed. An Autochthoniam city using aspects of the Community as a means to prevent strife and deal with resource shortages while a city of demon worshipers? Casting aside diversity of thought and being to create perfect order? Let's face it: The Giver is SWLiHN as all hell.
azoicennead
Overly-Affectionate Zombie Squad
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I would, because it would be stupid. It would make a lot more sense to raise them in a society that at least resembles one they'll have to interact with as part of their duties, because the ability to interact with people properly is kind of important.
The Phoenixian
The Glacier Witch
- Location
- My own little world
But if it's incredibly stupid, how much accumulated sidereal limit between how many sidereals would it take to make such a thing?
My knowledge of Sidereal limit may or may not be entirely based on hearsay and Revild's old, beautiful, rewrite.
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The Flanderization of Sidereal Limit into Hurrr Durr Derp is not a good thing. Sidereal Limit should be about taking the solution most convenient to the group, and finding it increasingly hard to separate that from the best possible solution. The solution should probably be Not Good, but it should be a thing which a group can legitimately pick, defend, and consider as valid even without any sort of curse twisting their thoughts.
The Usurpation is the prime example of this. There is plenty of reason to believe that the Usurpation was the better option of the two. The Sidereals chose it because their limit pushed them towards, presumably, risk-aversion then. Honestly if I wanted to rewrite Sidereal Limit, I'd suggest that what it would lead to is acting on SOP. Sidereal Limit is bureaucratic calcification, it means they just take the playbook and run through the plays without considering if they need to write new ones. Oftentimes, this leads to basically nothing. Sidereal Limit is subtle like the Sidereals themselves. Sometimes this leads to fantastically bad decisions-but these bad decisions are by-the-book and well-executed, and the consequences are often invisible for decades or longer.
frozenchicken
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Ah, I missed that you were suggesting a combination of the two ideas. I thought you just meant one of the twin's souls was bound to the living twin's. Wow, things could get pretty interesting once you start stacking souls. I suppose that'd be one way to get something like the Juggernaut.
- Location
- Pittsburgh, PA
Well, the normal setup is that the Yuu acts as friend and confidant, while the Zin murders anything that threatens the living twin. It's when the living twin dies under the right circumstances to induce ghosthood, rises up as hun and po, and is met by the Yuu-Zin pair that you set the stage for the Exalted equivalent of rampant Hollows forming a Menos.
azoicennead
Overly-Affectionate Zombie Squad
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- He/They
One stupid Sidereal.
The thing that gets missed a lot because of the Sidereal Committee Planning meme is that the plans Sidereals come up with accomplish their primary goal, but they have Consequences.
Aaron Peori
Rest in Peace
Lealope
Not yet invincible
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- She/Her
They're an in setting thing. Be cool and things will go your way.
They're a game abstraction to encourage people to do neat things.
- Location
- Singapore
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Related to this, I find it utterly hilarious that 'Are you a Bad enough dude to rescue the Scarlet Empress' is a legitimate plot hook in Exalted.
- Location
- Singapore
A question on the whole.... Realm thing.
If a character were to actually save the Scarlet Empress, what should he ask for?
Because I'm thinking of... well.... the ordinary way that the hero is rewarded is through marriage.
Then I realized this would mean being a powerless consort.
- Location
- London, England
I am typing this in a game.
We might all be about to die, because the Dawn really wanted to flirt with the hot goddess during an ongoing negotiation, and the watching armies may have misinterpreted his dynamic note passing as an attack.
We might all be about to die, because the Dawn really wanted to flirt with the hot goddess during an ongoing negotiation, and the watching armies may have misinterpreted his dynamic note passing as an attack.
More evidence the Bronze faction was right.
- Location
- Singapore
Um.... where is the game?
In Real Life, almost certainly. Several people on this thread have games they actually do at someone's house on a somewhat regular basis, of which I am very jealous.
- Location
- London, England
The game was indeed being held IRL, though as part of the local university's roleplaying association rather than at someone's house.
End result: Only one person died, and that was an old woman who we'd inadvertently driven to noble suicide. The Twilight stabbed her and ate her heart.
End result: Only one person died, and that was an old woman who we'd inadvertently driven to noble suicide. The Twilight stabbed her and ate her heart.
- Location
- Singapore
...... why are they so horrible?