Is determination different from willpower like the source of power for green lanterns?
As I understand it, there were once two -- The Life Entity and the Death Entity. The Life Entity represented the White Light of Life, the pure origin of the universe and the emotional spectrum. The Death Entity represented the dark absence of the White Light, and was constantly trying to destroy the Light. This struggle splintered Life into the Emotional Energy Spectrum. So if you think about it, each of the Seven is just a part of the White Light of Life, an energy in the universe that can be harnessed by any living thing. Just as Black Lantern Rings can only be used by the dead.
Within my structure as provided, it would look something like this:
Determination and the Soul Traits are Personal energy splinters of the White Light, that occur within a person and can be used without any contract or any formal training. As we learned from Alphys, it is possible to extract them and use them in more formal ways.
The Seven are Cosmic energy splinters of the White Light, that occur within the universe and can be harnessed through contract by any living thing. Bear in mind that Jade, daughter of the original human Lantern, had in-born Willpower energy she could use without a ring. So it is still possible to use this without "magic" or formal contracts like the rings and Lantern Corps.
See what I did there?
Now, does this mean there are Dimensional splinters of Life as well? I think not. I'd say that it is more like OUR dimension has its Personal and Cosmic representations of the White Light of Life, and other dimensions may have theirs as well. They may be different colors in different numbers, or not related to color at all. After all, there's a Green Lantern who uses an F Sharp Bell instead, so maybe there are entire universes where Life is represented as a sound instead of light, and different modulations of sound can be harnessed for use.
Wait how is perserverance different from determination? How many soul traits are there?
I thought it could also tie in well with
Spiral Power from Gurren Lagann, which is basically the power of always moving forward, of evolving that all living things capable of reproduction can do.
Not an expert on Undertale, so whatever you can explain would be quite helpful.
Also, I'm thinking of the whole 'see the world as stats' thing, and wonder if you could explain that more. Wonder if we could explain that as a Gamer like ability?
As someone who hasn't watched much of Gurren Lagann, but is familiar with the concepts therein, I feel like Spiral Power is a good analog for DETERMINATION. They're both about pushing through, never giving up, and the triumph of ego.
6-7, depends on who you're asking:
- Patience
- Bravery
- Perseverance
- Integrity
- Kindness
- Justice
- Determination (this depends if you think the Red Soul is Determination)
Not all living beings can see stats (in UT, really only the player character, Sans and Flowey) but everything in UT has stats, even Gaster who's been erased from reality, so yeah, makes sense everything that exists and has a conciousness has stats
Here's what I can extrapolate from fanon. Determination is associated with Red and freedom of motion as a Soul. This is reflected in how Determination allows you to push past and defeat your own fate, refusing to die.
Patience is associated with Cyan, but has no known attributes reflected in gameplay. From its items, the Toy Knife and Faded Ribbon, we can infer that the user is someone who has been waiting to grow up, waiting to be treated with respect and trusted with responsibility, but continues to be treated like a child.
Bravery is associated with Orange and constant, unstoppable motion of the Soul. The Brave must move, and cannot be stopped. Their items, the Tough Glove and Manly Bandanna, are reminiscent of characters like Ryu, Ken, Goku, and Naruto.
Integrity is associated with Blue and being grounded, subject to gravity. Its items, the Ballet Shoes and Old Tutu, suggest someone whose early, rigorous training and precise discipline have led to a person of firm self-control, but one who does not have the same agility and freedom of their youth.
Perseverance is associated with Purple and being bound to set paths. The user does not have freedom, being restricted to only the choices provided to them by authority, but they will fight through and carry on in those set paths. The Torn Notebook and Cloudy Glasses suggest an intellectual that has been beaten down by people and by their society, and has given in to frustration, but who keeps on pursuing their studies.
Kindness is associated with Green and helplessness. The Green Soul cannot move under its own power, except to turn and face the assault head-on (the only way to survive). The Burnt Pan and Stained Apron suggest someone who has provided for others and slaved at their craft despite receiving no help in return, and no time to see to their own needs.
Justice is associated with Yellow and aggression. It has the same freedom as Red, but with the addition of a shooting mechanic, which with the Empty Gun and Cowboy Hat are emblematic of a lawman fighting against injustice until he's got nothing left but his grit.
In one spectrum, red represents anger, while in another it represents freedom. Orange represents avarice in one, and momentum in another. Yellow represents fear in one, and aggression in another. Green represents will in one, and sacrifice in another. Blue represents hope in one, and patience (cyan) in another. Indigo represents compassion in one, and maturity (blue) in another. Pink represents love in one, and perseverance (purple) in another. The way I see these (accommodating for the difference of colors) is that Emotional Red represents how the universe/society see a Red user, and Soul Red represents how it feels to wield the power of Red, to be free to do what one wills. Emotional Orange represents how the universe/society see an Orange user, and Soul Orange represents how that avarice feels, like unstoppable, unceasing motion. You can't stop, even if you wanted to. Emotional Yellow represents how the universe/society see a Yellow user, and Soul Yellow represents how that fearmongering feels, like one has the freedom and the power to take Justice into one's own hands. Emotional Green represents how the universe/society see a Green user, and Soul Green represents how that willpower feels, like one is helpless to flee danger, forced to confront it head-on, and a shield to those helpless against it. Emotional Blue represents how the universe/society see a Blue user, and Soul Cyan represents how that hope feels, like one is always waiting. Emotional Indigo represents how the universe/society see an Indigo user, and Soul Blue represents how that compassion feels, like one has been grounded and brought to see reality in a mature light. Emotional Pink represents how the universe/society see a Pink user, and Soul Purple represents how that love feels, like an eternal struggle that is never over, because you'll never give up.
