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Yeah. We're not paying them shit no matter how the war results.
Edit: they can demand reparations if they want another war in the future.
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Deep Red (Avatar: The Last Airbender)
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Edit: they can demand reparations if they want another war in the future.
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The Fire Nation isn't really going to have a choice, they will have The Avatar.
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And we refuse to pay. He gonna walk up and magic it all away from the pockets of the citizens?
Raiseth
I Find Your Lack of Memes Disturbing
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Some Questers are unironically planning to kill/subvert the Avatar
Yeah
From the Fire Nation treasury if it comes down to it.
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Kosm actually said we could get strong enough to beat him.
Raiseth
I Find Your Lack of Memes Disturbing
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Totally.
There were people who beat the Avatar one way or another
Like Sozen
Or Azula
Or Amon
Or Kuvira
They sound like a bunch of fine folks. Look, they even have our sister with them! Let's join their club.
You are assuming the Avatar will be in a position to make such demands.
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Kuvira was actually cool until she went off the deep end.
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Sooo, did anyone suggest to go full Great Britain on Earth Kingdom? i mean just
Or just do what Zuko and Aang did in canon. FN will end up in that position anyway. (this is the point where someone complains about railroading)
- steal everything not nailed down,
- uplift only your colonies,
- from time to time start proxy wars through your colonies,
- act like peacekeeper.
Or just do what Zuko and Aang did in canon. FN will end up in that position anyway. (this is the point where someone complains about railroading)
Raiseth
I Find Your Lack of Memes Disturbing
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Where do you think that point would be?
Just when she refused to give the crown back to the Earth Monarchy and declared the Earth Kingdom an Empire and herself an empress?
Or when she attacked the Bei Fong's autonomous polity?
Or when she attacked the Republic City?
I need a cutaway point where her actions became unacceptable in Season 4 for you, please.
Crow
Falling is a Pleasure. Regardless of its Fate
Here to deliver chief .
Why do you keep resorting to the same argument that ends up with "might as well let canon run its course since there is absolutely nothing we can possibly do to change things or have any positive impact at all ." ?
you have to at least understand how unpalatable that can be at the very least?
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she did 3 things i found unacceptable. When she had highwaymen steal supplies from towns to then sell them back to them. when she enslaved her own people into camps, and when she fired the cannon at her fiance. I never found the empire building aspects to be unacceptable.
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That was actually discussed in chat today coincidentally, almost in those exact words. Play them against eachother after we've removed the central authority in Ba Sin Sei and take advantage of the resulting power vacuum. Especially with how the EK is composed of practically independent city states the resulting opportunism from the local rulers should help greatly.
Tyran
Blatant Product Placement (pro bono)
Hey, canon Azula is still alive and stronger. Sure she lost her throne and for a time her sanity, but you will need much more than that to keep her down. Plus being free from Ozai and not trying to kill Zuko is like the most sane environment she has ever been. (sad thing that being a literal terrorist is more healthy than being part of the FN Royal family)
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Thx, saved me 20 minutes long slog through salt mines.
Gh055twr1t3r
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Dude. 100-year war. All the dead people and loss of infrastructure. Like, paying reasonable reparations should not be an issue.
Please tell me we aren't planning on killing the last airbender.
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That's... Yea...
Subverting him is quite literally impossible due to Sozen wiping out the Air Nomads. And killing him, well, the world is quite literally working to make sure he succeeds. Even assuming Akane somehow succeeded in killing the Avatar however, Sozin got his entire line cursed with insanity doing it the first time. So I shudder to think what would happen to Akane if she actually repeated Sozin's mistake. (Best case would probably be getting tossed into the Fog of Lost souls...)
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Did you forget Buumi?
Raiseth
I Find Your Lack of Memes Disturbing
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I'd prefer to have him make the first hostile action so that we can defend ourselves.
Gh055twr1t3r
Idle Prophet
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...We're still talking about Aang right?
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yeah. I don't want to fight him if we don't have to. but i don't think he's going to just stand aside as we conquer the world.
Gh055twr1t3r
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Most of those are conditional though? Sozen didn't beat Roku, he left him to die when they were saving a local village from a volcano eruption and Roku was old.
Kuvira beat Korra sometime after she had recovered from the metal poison. Then Korra went into the Avatar state and beat her handily.
Azula's was a sneak attack and Amon would have lost handily to Aang if we're being honest here.
Buumi beat Aang while he was still learning Waterbending.
Bro I don't think you understand what self-defense means. Imperialistic conquering is not and will never be a neutral action. The Avatar attacking us would be self-defense. We don't have the moral or ethical high ground here, you have to realize that.
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The avatar doesn't have a stake in this. if he attacks us it's an offensive action. I would allow him to live his life however he likes as long as he doesn't get involved in the war.