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I'm puzzled as to why the Water Prison jutsu led to someone going unconscious. It explicitly provides oxygen to the person inside. (Why it does that beyond narrative convenience is never answered and is one of the odder things in the early portion of the series...) Indeed, it's kind of an incredibly awful technique in general, seeing as how it fails if the user moves, fails if the user doesn't provide a continuous flow of chakra, seems to prevent the user from attacking the target....
... to be fair, it does also seem to prevent the target from doing much of anything in terms of escaping or attacking, which is fairly impressive...
... anyway, point is, holding someone under the Water Prison jutsu wouldn't lead to them fainting or whatever unless they were held in it so long that sleep deprivation was becoming an issue or something like that.
I've always assumed blood is basically just an ID when it comes to summons.
"Oh, it's Jiraiya calling. We know it's him because we have ninja bullshit genetic analysis software built into the summoning jutsu. Ergo, it's a legit call and not some asshole who found the technique but hasn't actually signed on with us."
More or less every case that doesn't use blood can be explained this way: Pein's summoner is some special snowflake Rinnegan-based thing (eg maybe the things it summons are contracted to answer any Rinnegan user and ignore everyone else, and blood isn't going to show whether you have the Rinnegan or not), while summoning Iruka in the Exam replaced "Let me see yourID blood so I know it's you" with "You need an Earth scroll and a Heaven scroll crossed over each other".
I've always assumed blood is used for security reasons, not for resource-cost type reasons, basically, and even later canon is pretty consistent about this.
I've always assumed they're one-shot scrolls, personally. There's no evidence that Team Seven had to expend any chakra to trigger them, just had to cross them over each other, which implies that the scrolls themselves provided the chakra. As such, they'd have to be recharged between uses, and pretty much anytime we see someone doing anything with seals it's a ridiculously involved process... well, except for Orochimaru instantly installing the Cursed Seal with a bite, but Orochimaru is kind of bullshit. Otherwise what we get is stuff like Kakashi's sealing of said seal involving having to make an enormous, ridiculously intricate sealing array all around the floor etc, just so he can install a tiny flimsy circle that's "powered by Sasuke's will" around the Cursed Seal. So it's easy to imagine that the process of recharging such scrolls is an enormous pain in the butt.
I've also always assumed you had to pre-mark people to be summoned, and that the risk of enemies stealing such scrolls and summoning your assassin/commando/whatever unit on their terms is not really worth the utility it theoretically provides. That and I've also always assumed that any attempt to mimic the Flying Thundergod-type utility would run into coordination problems: if the people carrying the scrolls dictate when the summoning occurs, actually arranging to have your teleporting murder machine sequentially go from one front to another as soon as (s)he has finished the current fight, no sooner, no later, involves, what, outright telepathy? (One of many reasons why I dislike the introduction of Yamanaka-based telepathic coordination...)
Whereas Flying Thundergod uses a bunch of pre-marked targets to enable the user to initiate a teleport/reverse-summoning/whatever whenever they want to wherever they want to go out of the list, and so the only risks involved in the enemy stealing a marked kunai/whatever is that they might partially reverse-engineer the technique -and even then, it's difficult to imagine what the utility of reverse-engineering the beacons would be, without having also reverse-engineered the technique that uses those beacons. (Admittedly, you might find out how to area-of-effect jam their beacon functionality, but that assumes that's mechanically possible, for starters)
I'd always assumed Kakashi just ran low on chakra and un-summoned them as a result, though admittedly that isn't really in line with how summons appear to behave so "scroll was penetrated" as the cause probably makes more sense.
That's actually kind of alarming in terms of: Jiraiya is dragging around the Toad Summoning Contract. Say Naruto signs the contract as canon, but then Jiraiya wanders off to the other side of the continent without him. You may well see that Naruto gets into a fight, summons a toad of three, and they abruptly un-summon for no clear reason because Jiraiya's scroll got damaged waaaay on the other side of the continent.
That could potentially explain part of why summons seem to be so rare, even though they seem so useful: the single point of failure isn't so bad if it's just you with your scroll, it becomes deeply problematic if a regiment of ninja can find themselves abruptly without allies due to completely unrelated events.
... to be fair, it does also seem to prevent the target from doing much of anything in terms of escaping or attacking, which is fairly impressive...
... anyway, point is, holding someone under the Water Prison jutsu wouldn't lead to them fainting or whatever unless they were held in it so long that sleep deprivation was becoming an issue or something like that.
I've always assumed blood is basically just an ID when it comes to summons.
"Oh, it's Jiraiya calling. We know it's him because we have ninja bullshit genetic analysis software built into the summoning jutsu. Ergo, it's a legit call and not some asshole who found the technique but hasn't actually signed on with us."
More or less every case that doesn't use blood can be explained this way: Pein's summoner is some special snowflake Rinnegan-based thing (eg maybe the things it summons are contracted to answer any Rinnegan user and ignore everyone else, and blood isn't going to show whether you have the Rinnegan or not), while summoning Iruka in the Exam replaced "Let me see your
I've always assumed blood is used for security reasons, not for resource-cost type reasons, basically, and even later canon is pretty consistent about this.
I've always assumed they're one-shot scrolls, personally. There's no evidence that Team Seven had to expend any chakra to trigger them, just had to cross them over each other, which implies that the scrolls themselves provided the chakra. As such, they'd have to be recharged between uses, and pretty much anytime we see someone doing anything with seals it's a ridiculously involved process... well, except for Orochimaru instantly installing the Cursed Seal with a bite, but Orochimaru is kind of bullshit. Otherwise what we get is stuff like Kakashi's sealing of said seal involving having to make an enormous, ridiculously intricate sealing array all around the floor etc, just so he can install a tiny flimsy circle that's "powered by Sasuke's will" around the Cursed Seal. So it's easy to imagine that the process of recharging such scrolls is an enormous pain in the butt.
I've also always assumed you had to pre-mark people to be summoned, and that the risk of enemies stealing such scrolls and summoning your assassin/commando/whatever unit on their terms is not really worth the utility it theoretically provides. That and I've also always assumed that any attempt to mimic the Flying Thundergod-type utility would run into coordination problems: if the people carrying the scrolls dictate when the summoning occurs, actually arranging to have your teleporting murder machine sequentially go from one front to another as soon as (s)he has finished the current fight, no sooner, no later, involves, what, outright telepathy? (One of many reasons why I dislike the introduction of Yamanaka-based telepathic coordination...)
Whereas Flying Thundergod uses a bunch of pre-marked targets to enable the user to initiate a teleport/reverse-summoning/whatever whenever they want to wherever they want to go out of the list, and so the only risks involved in the enemy stealing a marked kunai/whatever is that they might partially reverse-engineer the technique -and even then, it's difficult to imagine what the utility of reverse-engineering the beacons would be, without having also reverse-engineered the technique that uses those beacons. (Admittedly, you might find out how to area-of-effect jam their beacon functionality, but that assumes that's mechanically possible, for starters)
I'd always assumed Kakashi just ran low on chakra and un-summoned them as a result, though admittedly that isn't really in line with how summons appear to behave so "scroll was penetrated" as the cause probably makes more sense.
That's actually kind of alarming in terms of: Jiraiya is dragging around the Toad Summoning Contract. Say Naruto signs the contract as canon, but then Jiraiya wanders off to the other side of the continent without him. You may well see that Naruto gets into a fight, summons a toad of three, and they abruptly un-summon for no clear reason because Jiraiya's scroll got damaged waaaay on the other side of the continent.
That could potentially explain part of why summons seem to be so rare, even though they seem so useful: the single point of failure isn't so bad if it's just you with your scroll, it becomes deeply problematic if a regiment of ninja can find themselves abruptly without allies due to completely unrelated events.
