Krazyfan1
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later on it seems to let them fly though...
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Dance Puppet Dance! (Transhumanist Naruto OC)
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Khepri14
Thus kindly I scatter...
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- Following the wind
Point me towards where? Anyways, that is literally bullshit. Then again, almost everything in Shippuden was... And anyways, how the hell would that work? They bounced off of stuff because it helped them build and maintain momentum IIRC, whereas flying does not. Not too mention flying is really a rare talent(inb4 everyone in the Obito fight could fly). Onoki and his teacher could fly thanks to Dust Release, and Pain(who had the Rinnegan and could be considered a Sage sort of) could fly or at least float and that was it. Then come 4th War it was Sage!Naruto, Sage!Obito, Sage!Madara, and Kaguya as well. Still a rare thing and only powerful shinobi could manage it and you are telling me that every Inuzuka that can manage the basic Fang-over Fang can fly?!?! Yeahhh, no. No way.
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Yeah. This is why I basically dismissed the whole thing. Aside from having just way too much momentum, the rotation would liquefy their internal organs, make it impossible to aim, and make them really dizzy. Even if they used chakra magic to fix all that, they would still be using their flailing limbs to try and drill through solid stone. It would only make sense as some sort of transformation jutsu, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
Then there's the way they view a drill maneuver as a valid form of attack. Despite the fact that drills rely on bite and rotational speed to penetrate as opposed to direct piercing which just use force per square area versus resistance. Drills are too slow to actually be useful for the kind of quick attacks the shinobi specialize in. Especially drills as large a a person which would require a Lot faster rotation to cause much damage, because the further away from the radial point of the circle the slower the rotation speed.
That's why I just dismissed the whole jutsu and will never bring it up in the story again. It can't be rationalized.
Khepri14
Thus kindly I scatter...
- Location
- Following the wind
I don't really think it's actually supposed to be a drilling attack. It looks more like a death by a thousand cuts thing, just much faster and less precise. Otherwise Kiba and/or Akamaru would be hitting Naruto's center mass and drill through there when they were hitting him on the sides and basically scratching/cutting him. As for rotational force and all that, I wouldn't know, and the only answer I can give is "chakra magic". Kishimoto messed up describing it I guess? Plus, we don't know what Chunin or higher Inuzukas use in Canon as I don't recall Chunin Kiba doing anything for the Sasuke search besides sniffing him out. Or anything about the Clans in general besides the Bloodline itself and one or two jutsu outside of it.
The only way it'd work in my mind would be if it was combined with/ or having a Wind/Lightning Chakra Flow/Nature/Aura around them. Even then I'm not too sure.
But yes, it's one of the many improbabilities and inconsistencies of Naruto. I'd forget about it too.
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- He/She/They
Given that the giant twin-headed wolf mode thing that Kiba+Akamaru use in the Sasuke Retrieval arc does the same thing on a larger scale, it stands to reason that they do variants of it going up through the ranks of skill and experience.
Khepri14
Thus kindly I scatter...
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Still didn't work well at all and wildly impractical. Had to be saved by Kankuro of all people.
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- The Great Beyond
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- He/She/They
... Dismissing Kankuro, who appears to be plausibly Chunin level during the exams and is Jonin outright post time skip (you know like Neji, and not really anybody else from the Konoha Genin?) seems... irrational.
Also, it failed because the opponent had some kind of ultimate defense summon. That would be like saying Lee's gate-opening techniques obviously suck cause he didn't beat Gaara with them. Or that Kimimaro's crazy bone lance thing obviously sucks because Gaara beat that, too. Judging by results without considering details is questionable.
Also, it failed because the opponent had some kind of ultimate defense summon. That would be like saying Lee's gate-opening techniques obviously suck cause he didn't beat Gaara with them. Or that Kimimaro's crazy bone lance thing obviously sucks because Gaara beat that, too. Judging by results without considering details is questionable.
Khepri14
Thus kindly I scatter...
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- Following the wind
That's not an ultimate defense summon. And honestly, that was not really necessary. There where two of them vs. one(combined) form. They could have easily split up and forced Kibamaru to follow one of them or used the Kawarimi to escape or a multitude of things. Really, it was Kishimoto's decision to do that, stupid as it was. And besides, Kiba still hit them, but he didn't kill them(unfortunately) IIRC. Now if they stood there as their normal combined self like an idiot, Kibamaru probably would've drilled right through them. As for Kankuro, he's not bad, but it's actually kind of easy to defeat him. Misumi or whatever the fuck his name was was a bad matchup and made the stupid decision to get into close range with a guy from Suna(idiot). And then him backing out in the exams did him no favors. And Shino was a bad match up too. So maybe I'm a little harsh on Kankuro but he's real easy to defeat from what I've seen.
Stupid decision to try and get close up to a most likely long range user when all you have is short range attacks?
Right. Of course.
So now all the puppets can be covered in bone plate and have custom bone gear. I can honestly see the Wraithbone army deployment being the thing that shoots Shuzaku into the S-rank ninja class.
What do Shuzaku's humanoid puppets generally look like? What to the Kaguya-bone armored puppets look like?
What do Shuzaku's humanoid puppets generally look like? What to the Kaguya-bone armored puppets look like?
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Generally, they'd look like people, because of henge. Without that they'd look a lot like the other humanoid puppets seen in the show, but with variation in color and texture according to the materials used. He isn't trying to make them look cool so much as make them effective killing machines.
I want to see the reactions to Shuzaku from other ninja, especially Jiraiya when he desciphers the seals on the puppets.
Given how Shuzaku can just send a puppet a long ways away to explore off the map, I wonder if he has one or two puppets dedicated to just that.
Given how Shuzaku can just send a puppet a long ways away to explore off the map, I wonder if he has one or two puppets dedicated to just that.
Khepri14
Thus kindly I scatter...
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- Following the wind
He could have bowed out, could have used bukijutsu(aka throwing shit) to test the waters, has the basic 3 and could've used the Kawarimi to dance around, and we have no clue what else he can do. He could probably do a genjutsu or ninjutsu or something and I find it ridiculous that a genin who's been around for a long time hasn't learned some ninjutsu or genjutsu either from his sensei or in his spare time. He's an older genin, yet he only knew one trick? I doubt that honestly, because otherwise he'd have died long ago and should have died long ago. And if he really knew only one trick, then that's really sad in many ways. Both in his ability to learn/look for new things, their Jonin's ability to teach, and their enemies being really fucking weak in their missions. And since Kishimoto didn't bother to show anything else, yeah, I still consider that a stupid decision considering that Suna is well known for it's puppeteers and that Kankuro was carrying some huge ass thing on his back which (surprise, surprise!) turned out to be a puppet. Plus, he was teammates with Kabuto who had those info cards and more than likely had the info on Kankuro and failing to take advantage of that is stupid. So, yeah, stupid decision.
Czlyydwr Llrngwl
"Sell ya a door Learn gull," Czly/Celly for short
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Eh, Naruto canon is full of [Trash Characters] who super-specialize in their one trick and rely on it in every situation, which lets them curbstomp opponents who can't neutralize it at the expense of being easy prey for those who can, or when their chakra runs out etc. Teamwork within a squad and especially Konoha's emphasis on it lets them cover for each other, but it's still glaringly obvious if you can get in even minimal observation of a particular ninja's fighting style, which is of course why they're so hung up on keeping techniques secret.
Khepri14
Thus kindly I scatter...
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True enough, but that's just a really shitty technique anyways and I'm half convinced that any Jounin could pull it off by themselves if they are flexible enough and have chakra(I mean there are people in RL who can bend themselves in all sorts of ways and shit). Plus, it really sucks in open battle which is why I said he should've died a long time ago. At least the other dude Sasuke fought had something moderately useful even if it was simply sucking out chakra by skin to skin contact. But, yeah, Misumi or whatever his name was was a one-off character/[Trash Character] designed to make Kankuro seem good, pass on to the Finals, and die fast basically.
Jackercracks
In a British accent
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- England
I don't think he quite has the speed for it yet. He has a fantastic defence and with the soul-tags an extremely good offence, but those things aren't quite enough to roll at S-rank level without the speed to actually hit your target.
Don't get me wrong, he could probably manage to pull off the army-killing part of an S-rankers job, but not the part where he's a credible threat to other S-rankers. Yet.
Kaguya Bone + Puppetry + Earth and Lightning nature transformation + Insect spies = Non-LOS sniping and artillery
Jackercracks
In a British accent
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- England
You make a persuasive point, so long as the SI understands enough about ballistics to know to re-derive the correct bullet rotation for actual long-range accuracy, and has the required levels of precision manufacture ability to make perfectly uniform and sufficiently similar bullets. Otherwise he won't get any kind of accuracy at distances greater than 50 yards.
For sniper bullets, that is. Canister and case shot is comparatively easier.
The Lure
- Location
- US
Date: Nine months twenty days after awakening
Subject: First sortie
The Konoha camps are to the south-east, but the region along the River border due south is already an active conflict zone and thus not a viable option for flanking maneuvers. Unfortunate.
I would have liked to have cut them down a bit by cutting off supplies.
Insects have very little utility in Ame I've found. The rainfall tends to knock them down far too quickly, relying on bird puppets was a last resort, and one that only worked a bit. Birds are almost too rare to even blend in. Had to replace the plumage with that of carrion birds since the lack of vegetation and constant conflict means that there is too little food to sustain any other kind at the moment.
How does Hanzo feed his people? Maybe some kind of internal fish farming operation? If so, then a determined operator might be able to corrupt that with a dose of heavy metals. Anything that essential would doubtlessly be heavily guarded though. Just a thoughtlet.
The birds revealed three main camps spread out along the river separating Ame and Grass from Fire. They didn't have a chance to look too closely at the river itself, probably trapped but I'll have to check on my own later.
The sortie here is aimed to get me acquainted with the local situation a bit better, assaulting Konoha anti-partisan patrols, trying to insure that local Ame forces don't get enough support near their borders to cause any kind of trouble.
Going to focus mostly on disposable puppets for this, don't want to run into an unforeseen situation and lose something valuable.
Date: Nine months twenty one days after awakening
Subject: After action report
Went over a ridge of low hills to the plains. I think that the higher elevation is what keeps most of the precipitation from moving further west to Wind, but that might just be speculation.
No underground stone tunnels in this part of the country, that's mostly just an Iwa thing. Too bad, I would have enjoyed the change in scenery. Though tunnels have a few major flaws as well, as they restrict mobility and allow for Fire users to cause massive destruction very easily, by eating up all the O2 if nothing else.
So we had to go the old fashioned way, basically using water walking the whole way just to stay on top of the mud.
Nice thing is, just like with going over water, this terrain doesn't hold tracks for very long at all, so we don't really need to hide our path from the enemy.
Ran into a few huts along the way. At this point, any of the locals that haven't holed up in with Hanzo or fled the country probably deserve what they get. Idiots.
Who stays in a country with no food, constant bloodshed, and an absence of patriotism to recommend it? Idiots, orphans too naïve to know better, and people trying to hide. Plus all the guys sent back out by Hanzo to give cover and aid to his own skirmishers.
No one goes around just exterminating all the Ame civilians, even though it's a better than even chance they're all conspirators for Hanzo. Maybe it's considered bad form to kill future clients without sufficient evidence?
Eventually ran into a group from Konoha, roughly where the information said they were going to be. They had found a family hiding scrolls filled with supplies, an Ame cache. No real surprise, they had elected for summery execution. Any of the other villages would have done the same, only some of them might have decided to go for a bit of casual torture first. For form's sake if nothing else.
Sending messages never really caught on here it seems. No one does the Roman thing, with massed crucifixions, or any of the other types of similar things involving functional genocide and slow death added together for the greatest possible psychological effect. Maybe it's because all the villages are nominally mercenaries? Maybe the shinobi existence teaches them to ensure the kill first, because as long as someone's breathing they might still pull through?
The battle wasn't very much. I used the Hiding in Mist technique, surrounded the enemies, got them all wrapped up and ready for delivery to the camp. Kind of boring actually.
I wonder if any of the Iwa nin have developed an effective mud-style Earth release variant? That'd be interesting, probably pretty useless after this war though.
The Konoha nin had a few interesting tidbits in their heads. I never really publicized much that I can do this, so it might never get out. Raiding people's memories is a tricky thing to defend against, both as a jutsu and as a strategy. They can hand out suicide jutsu like candy, but they'd still need to void any moves known by individuals as they were confirmed captured or missing.
The Sannin are mostly over by Grass at the moment. They aren't the Sannin yet though, just Team Sarutobi. Most teams break up after hitting chunin, but these three jounin are so insecure about their individual abilities that they can't fight by themselves. Pah!
Kakashi's father… what was his name again? The White Fang is in the center area, while Dan is over on my side.
Thing is though, I really don't care all that much about Kato Dan. Sure I was ordered to deal with him, but it'd actually suit me more if he lived to fulfill his ambition. Dan as the Fourth Hokage, talk about a broken cannon. And if I'm going off of the assumption that canon is true until proven otherwise, then the ideal situation would be to hunt down and kill Jiraiya, since without him there can be none of the prophesied children.
Of course that would make me the eternal enemy of Orochimaru, kind of like how killing Naruto would have made someone the enemy of Sasuke, they're in that kind of relationship at the moment. Would Tsunade really care? Eh, hard to tell. Does she need to die if Dan lives? Hmm, not sure.
A better question might be whether or not someone has been actively assassinating Senju clan members this entire time. If so then her existence doesn't really matter, since any offspring she might have would still get killed off.
Date: Nine months twenty three days after awakening
Subject: Lure
The idea is to get them to force Dan to respond to me whenever it is known I will enter the field. To that end the Konoha guys from before have been stuck with Soul Separation Seals and will be dropped right near their camps, technically alive for all that they lack a soul.
If they don't figure out that I'm here from that then they deserve even more scorn than I thought.
A different perspective
"What've we got?"
"This can be the work of only one man… the Soul Puppeteer"
"From Suna? Sounds ominous."
"There's no way they left these by accident. He would never need to use that to take out such low ranked nin. They're sending a message. They're calling you out Dan."
"I know. I'm ready for him."
"How can you be? He knows all about you, but what do we even know about him?"
"That doesn't matter. I have the Will of Fire, I believe that all of you will have my back if necessary."
*manly tears* "Dan!" "Sir!"
Author vomits from overdose of sentimentality.
Subject: First sortie
The Konoha camps are to the south-east, but the region along the River border due south is already an active conflict zone and thus not a viable option for flanking maneuvers. Unfortunate.
I would have liked to have cut them down a bit by cutting off supplies.
Insects have very little utility in Ame I've found. The rainfall tends to knock them down far too quickly, relying on bird puppets was a last resort, and one that only worked a bit. Birds are almost too rare to even blend in. Had to replace the plumage with that of carrion birds since the lack of vegetation and constant conflict means that there is too little food to sustain any other kind at the moment.
How does Hanzo feed his people? Maybe some kind of internal fish farming operation? If so, then a determined operator might be able to corrupt that with a dose of heavy metals. Anything that essential would doubtlessly be heavily guarded though. Just a thoughtlet.
The birds revealed three main camps spread out along the river separating Ame and Grass from Fire. They didn't have a chance to look too closely at the river itself, probably trapped but I'll have to check on my own later.
The sortie here is aimed to get me acquainted with the local situation a bit better, assaulting Konoha anti-partisan patrols, trying to insure that local Ame forces don't get enough support near their borders to cause any kind of trouble.
Going to focus mostly on disposable puppets for this, don't want to run into an unforeseen situation and lose something valuable.
Date: Nine months twenty one days after awakening
Subject: After action report
Went over a ridge of low hills to the plains. I think that the higher elevation is what keeps most of the precipitation from moving further west to Wind, but that might just be speculation.
No underground stone tunnels in this part of the country, that's mostly just an Iwa thing. Too bad, I would have enjoyed the change in scenery. Though tunnels have a few major flaws as well, as they restrict mobility and allow for Fire users to cause massive destruction very easily, by eating up all the O2 if nothing else.
So we had to go the old fashioned way, basically using water walking the whole way just to stay on top of the mud.
Nice thing is, just like with going over water, this terrain doesn't hold tracks for very long at all, so we don't really need to hide our path from the enemy.
Ran into a few huts along the way. At this point, any of the locals that haven't holed up in with Hanzo or fled the country probably deserve what they get. Idiots.
Who stays in a country with no food, constant bloodshed, and an absence of patriotism to recommend it? Idiots, orphans too naïve to know better, and people trying to hide. Plus all the guys sent back out by Hanzo to give cover and aid to his own skirmishers.
No one goes around just exterminating all the Ame civilians, even though it's a better than even chance they're all conspirators for Hanzo. Maybe it's considered bad form to kill future clients without sufficient evidence?
Eventually ran into a group from Konoha, roughly where the information said they were going to be. They had found a family hiding scrolls filled with supplies, an Ame cache. No real surprise, they had elected for summery execution. Any of the other villages would have done the same, only some of them might have decided to go for a bit of casual torture first. For form's sake if nothing else.
Sending messages never really caught on here it seems. No one does the Roman thing, with massed crucifixions, or any of the other types of similar things involving functional genocide and slow death added together for the greatest possible psychological effect. Maybe it's because all the villages are nominally mercenaries? Maybe the shinobi existence teaches them to ensure the kill first, because as long as someone's breathing they might still pull through?
The battle wasn't very much. I used the Hiding in Mist technique, surrounded the enemies, got them all wrapped up and ready for delivery to the camp. Kind of boring actually.
I wonder if any of the Iwa nin have developed an effective mud-style Earth release variant? That'd be interesting, probably pretty useless after this war though.
The Konoha nin had a few interesting tidbits in their heads. I never really publicized much that I can do this, so it might never get out. Raiding people's memories is a tricky thing to defend against, both as a jutsu and as a strategy. They can hand out suicide jutsu like candy, but they'd still need to void any moves known by individuals as they were confirmed captured or missing.
The Sannin are mostly over by Grass at the moment. They aren't the Sannin yet though, just Team Sarutobi. Most teams break up after hitting chunin, but these three jounin are so insecure about their individual abilities that they can't fight by themselves. Pah!
Kakashi's father… what was his name again? The White Fang is in the center area, while Dan is over on my side.
Thing is though, I really don't care all that much about Kato Dan. Sure I was ordered to deal with him, but it'd actually suit me more if he lived to fulfill his ambition. Dan as the Fourth Hokage, talk about a broken cannon. And if I'm going off of the assumption that canon is true until proven otherwise, then the ideal situation would be to hunt down and kill Jiraiya, since without him there can be none of the prophesied children.
Of course that would make me the eternal enemy of Orochimaru, kind of like how killing Naruto would have made someone the enemy of Sasuke, they're in that kind of relationship at the moment. Would Tsunade really care? Eh, hard to tell. Does she need to die if Dan lives? Hmm, not sure.
A better question might be whether or not someone has been actively assassinating Senju clan members this entire time. If so then her existence doesn't really matter, since any offspring she might have would still get killed off.
Date: Nine months twenty three days after awakening
Subject: Lure
The idea is to get them to force Dan to respond to me whenever it is known I will enter the field. To that end the Konoha guys from before have been stuck with Soul Separation Seals and will be dropped right near their camps, technically alive for all that they lack a soul.
If they don't figure out that I'm here from that then they deserve even more scorn than I thought.
A different perspective
"What've we got?"
"This can be the work of only one man… the Soul Puppeteer"
"From Suna? Sounds ominous."
"There's no way they left these by accident. He would never need to use that to take out such low ranked nin. They're sending a message. They're calling you out Dan."
"I know. I'm ready for him."
"How can you be? He knows all about you, but what do we even know about him?"
"That doesn't matter. I have the Will of Fire, I believe that all of you will have my back if necessary."
*manly tears* "Dan!" "Sir!"
Author vomits from overdose of sentimentality.
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I don't get the rationally of purposelly picking a fight with the leaf, and why leaving souless bodies translates into a message to a particular Jounin, instead of the leaf contingent as a whole.
Also, Announcing ones presence? Tsk, Tsk... Free Intel, great tactics that.
Also, Announcing ones presence? Tsk, Tsk... Free Intel, great tactics that.
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There's one guy in the Leaf that famously deals with souls. They dumped a bunch of soulless bodies right on his doorstep. It's obviously meant for him. As for picking a fight, they were already in open war, the difference is that Shuzaku might be able to counter Dan, which would be a major morale boost for Suna and a major defeat for Konoha, regardless of whether or not Dan actually got killed.
"You've got a badass that can't be countered? We've got a bigger badass that can counter him!"
"Noooo! We can't defeat bad-assitude of that magnitude."
Jackercracks
In a British accent
- Location
- England
I'm not certain who's talking here. Are there two people responding to Dan?
Basically, because he's the guy in charge of Leaf forces in this area, and they both do soul stuff. The message conveys the following information: I, another Soul Dude, am in the area. I'm killing up your dudes. If you do not stop me, I will continue killing up your dudes.
Alternately, it's a fairly cheap move to make resource-wise. It's not like those Leaf nin were going to survive after interrogation anyway, so dumping the technically-alive bodies is just making use of something that would have been wasted otherwise.
From a different perspective, this means that Dan now knows to try and prepare a strategy specifically to deal with the SI. However, the complete lack of information on his weaknesses makes this a dubious proposition. For all they know he's just a normal-ish puppeteer who works from range, and is vulnerable to being stabbed like everyone else if you can just find the real body.
Baughn
Healing-type writer
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- Dublin
On the flip side, Dan just happens to be the one guy who could reasonably cause damage to our dear SI here. If he doesn't die, I kinda hope he'll live to regret this...
It's not like too many things have gone his way, but some hardship is always fun. And I haven't been rooting for anyone in particular for quite some time, now.
We Just Write
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What real body?
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