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What's the extent of Nanami's powers?
Can we bring the gun into a timestop without the person? Can we attach one of Ryouko's bolt-strings to the chambered bullet and the ones in the magazine?

My current idea is to cause a misfire/jam/gun explosion, or to make the bullet disappear/miss.
Considering Ryouko's aunt could only disable high technology after WW2, IIRC, Nanami is probably similarly limited in theme to affect only advanced enough tech.
Still attacking gun...
In the spirit of covering all our bases, what should we have everyone do if he still has it in him to pull out a knife KATANA?
Everyone in Japan has katana! It's national weapon! A symbol! Is the best! *forget how easy to beak it could be and all myths that are wrong about it* Why use pitiful knife?

... We don't have anyone nearby who uses sword bigger then themselves.... the BFS...

But.... there is Kyouko.... able to spam thousand spears as well as giant one on which she sat when fighting Sayaka's witch before kamikaze attack...

*throws anime katana into trash bean*

So shoot that gun, or kick it so that it shoot in another way?

Kick happening in time stop so in moment of contact, shooter is unfrozen and gun moves to shoot into wall or empty space. If gun fire... bullet gets frozen during flight and we could move cop away?

Later approach cop to get some friendly contact in this age with authorities? We were nearby hunting suicide causing monster? *shrugs* Now to find and use face masks or not...
 
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[X] Have Ryouko teleport the gangster with a gun to a slightly different position, and use the teleport to sabotage the gun.
-[X]Teleport bullets out, or just the gunpowder or primer if possible. Or just break part of it so it can't fire anymore.
- - [X] Stay on hand to watch how it plays out. The lives of the Cop and Nanami's half brother should be protected, but whatever happens to the shooter, happens.
 
Everyone in Japan has katana! It's national weapon! A symbol! Is the best! *forget how easy to beak it could be and all myths that are wrong about it* Why use pitiful knife?
[ ] Train Homura to use a katana

If only you had a magical girl who used swords on the team.

You can also just shoot the gun. I mean seriously, this is a thing megucas can do in TTS. Ryouko has the training to pull this off.
You're in timestop. You can walk up at point blank range. Homura could pull this off.

That raises more questions in the mind of any witnesses, however. What explanation would there be for why he suddenly collapsed with a head wound?
Who cares? You're not in the area anymore.
Exposing Nanami's half-brother to some freaky shit is a thing which will interact with his world view and may ultimately affect his ability to detect that his half-sister, Nanami, is a magical girl. It's pretty hard to predict exactly how it will interact, though.
 
[X] Have Ryouko teleport Nanami and Homura down to the confrontation
[X] Smash the shooter over the head with a large stick
--- [X] Try not to kill him
[X] Exit the immediate area and observe the fallout from a distance

You're in timestop. You can walk up at point blank range. Homura could pull this off.

This is a good point too. I'm a fan of hitting people with blunt instruments though.
 
Who cares? You're not in the area anymore.
If there's an obvious explanation, then they will look no further and the matter will be resolved without drawing any attention. If there is no explanation, then the matter will be investigated further until one can be found, and that could blow back on us. Did the cop get a good look at Kyouko when she played decoy? How many surveillance cameras do you suppose Ryouko and Kyouko passed in view of in the area? Are there any that recorded Ryouko teleporting? There are no computer protocols in place to erase recordings of magical girls in action, even if these cameras were networked (and most aren't).

Provide them a mystery, and in trying to solve it they might expose us.


I'm a fan of hitting people with blunt instruments though.
Then leave a brick or other heavy object behind so it looks like it fell from above and landed on his head. Don't just have mysteriously appearing head trauma out of nowhere.

(Also, a blow to the head hard enough to render him unconscious has a moderate chance of killing him anyway.)
 
If there's an obvious explanation, then they will look no further and the matter will be resolved without drawing any attention. If there is no explanation, then the matter will be investigated further until one can be found, and that could blow back on us. Did the cop get a good look at Kyouko when she played decoy? How many surveillance cameras do you suppose Ryouko and Kyouko passed in view of in the area? Are there any that recorded Ryouko teleporting? There are no computer protocols in place to erase recordings of magical girls in action, even if these cameras were networked (and most aren't).

Provide them a mystery, and in trying to solve it they might expose us.



Then leave a brick or other heavy object behind so it looks like it fell from above and landed on his head. Don't just have mysteriously appearing head trauma out of nowhere.

(Also, a blow to the head hard enough to render him unconscious has a moderate chance of killing him anyway.)

I'm down with these contingency ideas. And yeah well, Homura has experience with potentially fatal head trauma, so that's probably fine on that front.

RE: Mysteries: Well, I mean, I find it hard to believe that any of the other plausible plans would allow you to avoid the investigation. If there really are that many cameras and things, then we're already completely screwed. The "safe" play would be to just GTFO if the level of surveillance really is that high, but at this point the quest and the players have essentially committed already.

As to the cop, well, that's too much of a dice roll for me to consider it that useful a consideration. It would be better to focus on things that have better defined odds.
 
RE: Mysteries: Well, I mean, I find it hard to believe that any of the other plausible plans would allow you to avoid the investigation. If there really are that many cameras and things, then we're already completely screwed. The "safe" play would be to just GTFO if the level of surveillance really is that high, but at this point the quest and the players have essentially committed already.
I don't think that there are any cameras pointed at us right now, necessarily, but we might have passed by some on our way here or while Kyouko did her decoy run, if we passed by any businesses.

Ryouko's crossbow bolts only exist as long as she wants them to, so if one hits the gun and disappears, it won't be visible for more than a split second. And I can tell you from personal and professional experience that surveillance cameras tend to have pretty shitty resolution and framerate, so I doubt they'd be able to make out anything clearly from the moment of impact. A girl straight up disappearing, however? Slightly more obvious. Let's not give them reason to check the footage from the surrounding businesses and potentially catch us at an incriminating moment... or even just that two of the Shizuki heirs were in the vicinity of a drug bust mere days after an explosion at their school.
 
I don't think that there are any cameras pointed at us right now, necessarily, but we might have passed by some on our way here or while Kyouko did her decoy run, if we passed by any businesses.

Ryouko's crossbow bolts only exist as long as she wants them to, so if one hits the gun and disappears, it won't be visible for more than a split second. And I can tell you from personal and professional experience that surveillance cameras tend to have pretty shitty resolution and framerate, so I doubt they'd be able to make out anything clearly from the moment of impact. A girl straight up disappearing, however? Slightly more obvious. Let's not give them reason to check the footage from the surrounding businesses and potentially catch us at an incriminating moment... or even just that two of the Shizuki heirs were in the vicinity of a drug bust mere days after an explosion at their school.

If this is the case, then I assume that this idea of plugging the barrel (or shooting a bolt down it) is happening in timestop? @RubberBandMan ?
 
If this is the case, then I assume that this idea of plugging the barrel (or shooting a bolt down it) is happening in timestop?
Yeah. If Ryouko uses her crossbow then nobody makes physical contact with him, so he isn't brought into the timestop with us.

So the plan thus far:

[x] Have Ryouko shoot a crossbow bolt up the barrel of the gun. It will appear that the weapon misfired and blew up in his hand. Shooter might lose a few fingers, but he'll live. The bolt is magic and will vanish, leaving no evidence behind.
[x] If he draws an additional weapon, repeat process to cause him to have similar "mishaps" until he's out of ways to hurt people.
 
Going to agree with The Narrator on a plan here, keeps us from being noticed too much.

[x] Have Ryouko shoot a crossbow bolt up the barrel of the gun. It will appear that the weapon misfired and blew up in his hand. Shooter might lose a few fingers, but he'll live. The bolt is magic and will vanish, leaving no evidence behind.
[x] If he draws an additional weapon, repeat process to cause him to have similar "mishaps" until he's out of ways to hurt people.
 
[x] Have Ryouko shoot a crossbow bolt up the barrel of the gun. It will appear that the weapon misfired and blew up in his hand. Shooter might lose a few fingers, but he'll live. The bolt is magic and will vanish, leaving no evidence behind.
[x] If he draws an additional weapon, repeat process to cause him to have similar "mishaps" until he's out of ways to hurt people.
 
[x] RubberBandMan
[x] Wear gloves, because paranoia
Adhoc vote count started by Grey John on Apr 3, 2018 at 4:58 PM, finished with 34 posts and 8 votes.

  • [x] If he draws an additional weapon, repeat process to cause him to have similar "mishaps" until he's out of ways to hurt people.
    [x] Have Ryouko shoot a crossbow bolt up the barrel of the gun. It will appear that the weapon misfired and blew up in his hand. Shooter might lose a few fingers, but he'll live. The bolt is magic and will vanish, leaving no evidence behind.
    -[X]Teleport bullets out, or just the gunpowder or primer if possible. Or just break part of it so it can't fire anymore.
    - - [X] Stay on hand to watch how it plays out. The lives of the Cop and Nanami's half brother should be protected, but whatever happens to the shooter, happens.
    [X] Have Ryouko teleport the gangster with a gun to a slightly different position, and use the teleport to sabotage the gun.
    [X] Have Nanami call for an ambulance, suitably panicked and detransformed from the alley entrance.
    [X] NOT Have Nanami call for an ambulance
    [X] IF Nanami can force a jam, have her do so ELSE Have Ryouko stuff a small (shaped?) explosive into the barrel
    -[X] Do not intervene. Exposure risk high, death or permanent injury risk low.
    [X] If a knife is pulled:
    --[X] Add a few slaps to the face for good measure?
    --[X] She heard a girl yell out
    --[X] She secretly tailed her brother out of worry
    -[X] If anyone asks (give her this over group PM)
    -[X] If Nanami can force a jam, have her do so
    -[X] Have Ryouko stuff a small (shaped?) explosive into the barrel
    [X] Backup plan, Phase 1
    [X] Primary plan, Phase 1
    -[X] I'm the Tactician, so do as I say.
    [X] Channel your inner Mark. Well, Robin would be a better fit, now.
    [x] Wear gloves, because paranoia
    [X] Exit the immediate area and observe the fallout from a distance
    --- [X] Try not to kill him
    [X] Smash the shooter over the head with a large stick
    [X] Have Ryouko teleport Nanami and Homura down to the confrontation
    [X] IF a knife is pulled DO NOT intervene
 
If this is the case, then I assume that this idea of plugging the barrel (or shooting a bolt down it) is happening in timestop? @RubberBandMan ?

Yeah.

...

I overthought it again, didn't I.

...

*reboots in shame*

Mfw we are almost literally Robin. Our witch name needs to be Grima

[X] Channel your inner Mark. Well, Robin would be a better fit, now.
-[X] I'm the Tactician, so do as I say.
(This should be in Clarisse's cultural database. I hope. (Fire Emblem Tacticians, anyone?)
[X] Primary plan, Phase 1
-[X] If Nanami can force a jam, have her do so
[X] Backup plan, Phase 1
-[X] Have Ryouko stuff a small (shaped?) explosive into the barrel
[X] Have Nanami call for an ambulance, suitably panicked and detransformed from the alley entrance.
-[X] If anyone asks (give her this over group PM)
--[X] She secretly tailed her brother out of worry
--[X] She heard a girl yell out
--[X] Add a few slaps to the face for good measure?
[X] If a knife is pulled:
-[X] Do not intervene. Exposure risk high, death or permanent injury risk low.
 
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Yeah. If Ryouko uses her crossbow then nobody makes physical contact with him, so he isn't brought into the timestop with us.
Umm...
string connects Ryouko to arrow...
arrow touches gun...
gun touches owner...
he is unfrozen?

But otherwise going with your vote.

[x] Have Ryouko shoot a crossbow bolt up the barrel of the gun. It will appear that the weapon misfired and blew up in his hand. Shooter might lose a few fingers, but he'll live. The bolt is magic and will vanish, leaving no evidence behind.
[x] If he draws an additional weapon, repeat process to cause him to have similar "mishaps" until he's out of ways to hurt people.
 
Having thought about things for a bit longer and seen other peoples opinions, I'm changing my mind on a few things.

[X] IF Nanami can force a jam, have her do so ELSE Have Ryouko stuff a small (shaped?) explosive into the barrel
[X] NOT Have Nanami call for an ambulance
[X] IF a knife is pulled DO NOT intervene

The theory with the knife is the officer will be trained to deal with that.
And Nanami hasn't spent any time in real time here so we should pretend she isn't here.
 
You know we dont know how witches eat so:
[X]Capture the drug dealer
[X]Feed him to the familiar for SCIENCE
[X]lets see if you could farm the thing
 
Busy weekend, will try to update Tuesday.

Key points:
[3] Blow up / shoot the gun with magic
[2] Teleport bullets out or similar
[1] Hit the gangster with a stick
[1] Feed him to the familiar for Science™

[1] Call for ambulance
[1] NO DON'T
 
stand around while people are bleeding
[3] Blow up / shoot the gun with magic
[2] Teleport bullets out or similar
[1] Hit the gangster with a stick
[1] Feed him to the familiar for Science™

[1] Call for ambulance
[2] NO DON'T

Ryouko is considering the best way to approach the problem. You are a little alarmed to note that her primary solution candidates include elaborate longitudinal and latitudinal sections, though at least she is considering the implications on stealth to be very detrimental.

"How about something a little less lethal?" you propose. "Disarm him. Shoot the gun, or cause a jam. Ideally without taking him out of time-stop, though."

Nanami frowns.

"What's wrong?" you ask.

"It's risky and it's indirect, and I'm not sure how we're not better off just dealing with the problem," she says.

You consider how to reply to that for a few moments.

"Nanami," you ask, "have you ever killed a man?"

Homura makes an eep noise.

"Have I ever — Of course not!!"

"Why are you so eager to start now?" you ask.

She seems perplexed at herself, and embarrassed. "I … uhh…"

"While it is less direct, I'd prefer if we all went home un-traumatized and without blood on our hands. I'm a little worried by everyone's sudden preference for violent solutions. I wonder if it might perhaps be tied to the familiar's presence here. I'm not confident that we're thinking straight."

Homura's eyes go wide. "They can do that?" she says, quietly. "I thought they just made people feel like… they want to…" She trails off, and looks down, and kicks at the ground, not saying any more.

Nanami squeezes her hand.

"Maybe some of them can," you propose. "If this one is helping drive people to violence, we should be extra careful. It could be more dangerous in this labyrinth than usual."

"Oh," says Ryouko, sounding quite interested.

For reference, you note to Ryouko, that includes this feeling right here that you can't wait to get started.

Oh,
she replies, chastened but not much less eager.

Nanami looks at the shooter carefully.

"So if the main risk is that we take him out of time-stop for a moment and he notices something," she says, "why don't we find like a plastic bag or something in the trash and just put it over his head or in front of his face so he doesn't see? Then we can just snatch the gun away."

"Then we're involved with a gun that's been used in a police shooting," you object. "They can match up the ballistics. We'd be putting fingerprints on it."

"Oh," says Nanami, "that's no problem unless someone finds it, and Homura-chan can keep that from happening. Perfectly useable in a labyrinth. Even with time stop, she can't rely on me being there to lend her a railgun every time."

"Well, okay," you say. "You have a point; it's your magic, after all, and neither of us should be using it like it's not and taking it for granted. It just strikes me as a big risk for us to have this particular firearm."

Nanami gets a funny look on her face, like she's made a mistake, and quickly apologizes, or something like that. "No no," she says, "I mean, like, if Homura has the little railgun I can't lend it to you. We'd have more flexibility. Really, I'd be happy to lend it to you, just ask."

"Well." You consider. "Do you at least have somewhere safe to put it, Homura?"

"Uhh," she says, "I can … umm … Nanami, I need my hand back for a moment."

Nanami takes a hold of one of Homura's pigtails.

Homura pauses, momentarily embarrassed, then demonstrates, withdrawing a baseball bat from her shield.

"See?" says Nanami. "No way the police find it in there."

Ryouko nods. "I think I can manage teleporting just the gun," she says. "The aim is fine but I'm a little unsure about shooting up the barrel. If I'm too close it might explode in the time stop, and with the angle he's holding it there's not a lot of room for error."



A minute or zero later, your girl engages a rather elegant little teleportation, and the shooter flickers for just a fraction of a second, but Nanami is holding a collapsed cardboard box in front of his face.

"Excellent," says Nanami. "And nobody harmed."

You turn your head behind you to look over at Souta, skeptically.

"Further harmed!" Nanami exclaims. She seems mortified, and almost drops Homura's braid.

"I see," you say.

Ryouko hands you something as your head turns back.

Oh, the gun.

"Well then," you say, stepping over to Homura. "Against my better judgement, I guess this is for you."

Homura regards it with skepticism for a moment, then nods with determination.

"We should do a safety lecture later," you say. "The first rule of firearms is that you do not point the gun at anything you do not intend to destroy. Got it?"

"G-got it," she says.

"Second rule," you say, releasing the gun's magazine, "is that you store these two parts separately until we do the safety lecture and get you some training."

She nods, making a serious face and oh goddess it is just the cutest little moe thing ever, it's a little hard to take her seriously. And it's Akemi Homura. And you just gave her a gun safety lecture.

It'll be okay, you tell yourself. Breathe, Clarisse.

Is something wrong? asks Ryouko.

You relate your train of thought, but Ryouko isn't quite sure why it's funny.

Don't worry about it, you assure her.



Homura releases the time-stop.

Kyouko startles to see Nanami and Homura up on the roof beside her suddenly.

Wait a minute, she asks, weren't you two on the other side of the neighborhood?

I — I just stopped time,
replies Homura. We walked over.

We took his gun, adds Ryouko.

Kyouko is baffled, but the unfolding scene below distracts her. The shooter trips over the partially-reassembled cardboard box which Nanami put in front of him, falling to the ground and reaching around with his right hand as if it's somehow just there out of reach. The policeman scrambles to his feet, and starts beating him down with a baton.

Ryouko is, in the moment, more upset at this than you would have expected. Some norm has been violated, some expectation of a social contract with everyone on the same side. It's somehow a little worse than the colony mission; they were at least another side. You tentatively update your model weights, and make a note to follow up when you have the chance.

The officer's continued bashing is also a little bit gratuitous.

He stops, eventually, handcuffs the offender, then stands, walking over to Souta. He looks down at the form on the ground, pulls out his gun, and…

hesitates, lowering it again.

It looks like Souta's unconscious, though probably more so from pain intolerance than the seriousness of his injuries. The hospital should be able to fix something like that in no time.

Well, no, the 25th century hospital would do it in no time. The twenty-first century hospital is … probably still going to save him, but, not nearly as well. You readjust your expectations. In this world, non-fatal injuries don't just get healed away as if they never happened. That's something to keep in mind.

The officer sort of just kicks him, half-heartedly, and swears to himself under his breath. He seems at a bit of a loss as to what to do.

Well, says Kyouko, turning her attention to other concerns, at least we got a witch out of it.

Ryouko focuses her attention away from the physical world to the magical. Yes. Something is different about the feel of the magic, not simply strength, but its quality, resonant as if with different overtones. There was definitely something that the witch this morning had that this familiar doesn't. Actually, there's something extra now, as well, and Ryouko is trying to understand it.

I'm not actually that involved with hunting back home, says Ryouko, so I've never actually been there when a labyrinth opens… She pauses a moment to phrase the rest.

— What? How in hell did you mange that? asks Kyouko.

… Never mind that, she says. Is it just me or is this one a little funny somehow? It doesn't quite feel right.

Kyouko frowns.

Maybe, she allows. Guess we should check it out, hmmmm?

She leaps off the other side of the roof to make this happen. The entrance to the labyrinth is easy to find.

Ryouko studies the feel of the opening labyrinth ahead of her. It reminds her of something inexact and hard to place. As the gears in her head metaphorically turn, she realizes that part of it is about the shape of the space, twisting as the labyrinth forms a distortion in space. A curved space that wraps around on itself. In a way, it's a lot like her wormholes, but inside out. Or maybe the wormholes are inside out and the labyrinths are outside in? Regardless, it's more an intuitive feeling than a rigorous topological description, really. Also, that doesn't seem like it's all of that.

Yeah, it smells real weird, calls Kyouko, but it looks like a pretty normal labyrinth inside. You lot want to come take it down?

You take a look down at the ground again. The policeman still hasn't done anything to call for emergency services.

Is he going to go do anything, demands Nanami, or is he just going to stand around while people are bleeding?



coobie you know what time it is??
> maze time, home of the brave

Who's doing what?
[] Enter the labyrinth with the others, trusting the cop to do the right thing
[] Quickly call an ambulance, then join them
[] Leave someone outside to keep an eye on things, while the others fight
- [] Stay outside yourself
[] Wait until the cop is distracted, then have Ryouko take Souta to the hospital
[] Knock out the cop, and apply first aid
[] (write in?)

Any tactical advice for people entering the labyrinth?
[] (write in tactical doctrine for five)
[] shoot all the familiars
[] spare all the familiars
 
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[X] Leave someone outside to keep an eye on things, while the others fight
-[X] Stay outside yourself, and out of sight.
[X] Call an ambulance
-[X] If possible, spoof voice and other identifying information other than location.

Holding off on doctrine for now.
 
Uh..what do. I have to think in this quest.
I say as a notice a good vote and just copy it.
 
Silly me, when the cop addressed Souta like they were in cahoots, I assumed that it was because Souta was a confidential informant and the cop was just stupidly blowing his cover. It was actually because the cop is dirty. :facepalm:

Keeping Souta alive may require further intervention here.

[X] Call an ambulance
-[X] If possible, spoof voice and other identifying information other than location.
Given that we have a headware radio, instead of making a phone call, could we instead send a call for help over the police band? "Shots fired, officer involved shooting, single gunshot victim, request medical," that sort of thing? No phone number to trace then.

One of the reasons that I didn't want to take the gun is because now people will wonder where it went. This might be a problem later.
 
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