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Which, incidentally, is yet another reason to avoid the marriage. I don't want those beliefs entrenching themselves in the royal family.
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Which, incidentally, is yet another reason to avoid the marriage. I don't want those beliefs entrenching themselves in the royal family.
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Those who are willing to ship others must be prepared to be shipped themselves!
... On the other hand, ArthrynXWyrn is a terrible pairing, so good on her for combating it.
[X][South] Marry Darvyd to both sisters.
The thing about having Vassals is that you most certainly don't intend to let them go and in fact, would then proceed to try and nom them, once you got your proverbial ducks lined up, in some fashion or another.
Having runaway Heroes running about, not being tied to the main polity in some fashion or other, is the exact opposite of having your ducks lined up. It is in fact, the worst thing that you can do. Because even if their goals are relatively innocuous and fine, it tends to be slightly troublesome in practice for us....like this current kerfuffle with between the Vynadian and Anti-Vynadian.
Also, this is exceedingly late and has absolutely zero chance of passing through but:
[X][SEC] Study Magic
[X][SEC] Trade Expedition = (Lowlands)
Should the vote to go get both Twins in, it would mean that we have a) one Hero that excels in the study of the divine, as well as the capability to not ruffle any feathers in the attempt, and b) another Hero that excels in smooth-talking (and wallet-loosening) everyone potentially hostile that we can meet....or gank them away if negotiations fail.
Thusly, we should strive for Study Magic action not the least because we have a Faction Quest relating to it but because we haven't even done it once. Think of the Mystic Hero as a Tech Hero, in this regard. And at least one Explore or Trade action should be done, if only so we can get a better bearing of the surroundings. Like say, the big mountain observable from literally the other side of the known world that has always been there since the start of the Quest.
You know, that thing. We should probably check on that thing.
The thing about having Vassals is that you most certainly don't intend to let them go and in fact, would then proceed to try and nom them, once you got your proverbial ducks lined up, in some fashion or another.
Having runaway Heroes running about, not being tied to the main polity in some fashion or other, is the exact opposite of having your ducks lined up. It is in fact, the worst thing that you can do. Because even if their goals are relatively innocuous and fine, it tends to be slightly troublesome in practice for us....like this current kerfuffle with between the Vynadian and Anti-Vynadian.
Also, this is exceedingly late and has absolutely zero chance of passing through but:
[X][SEC] Study Magic
[X][SEC] Trade Expedition = (Lowlands)
Should the vote to go get both Twins in, it would mean that we have a) one Hero that excels in the study of the divine, as well as the capability to not ruffle any feathers in the attempt, and b) another Hero that excels in smooth-talking (and wallet-loosening) everyone potentially hostile that we can meet....or gank them away if negotiations fail.
Thusly, we should strive for Study Magic action not the least because we have a Faction Quest relating to it but because we haven't even done it once. Think of the Mystic Hero as a Tech Hero, in this regard. And at least one Explore or Trade action should be done, if only so we can get a better bearing of the surroundings. Like say, the big mountain observable from literally the other side of the known world that has always been there since the start of the Quest.
You know, that thing. We should probably check on that thing.
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I find the idea that we need to grab every hero of the Maradysh, who we happen to share the same ruling royal family with, or they will inevitably try to split from us to be pretty paranoid, the Merntir have maintained very high loyalty to us whilst actively trying to become culturally distinct from us and even at the cusp of civil war between themselves have maintained their very high loyalty to us.
We don't need to be afraid of other groups of the people.
We don't need to be afraid of other groups of the people.
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The Merntir will be absorbed resistance is futile
I like it how Communal Unity will likely counteract the potential narrative intrigue weakness of Fair Treatment.
Current loyalty isn't necessary indication of future loyalty.
Hmm. Community Unit and Fair Treatment does seem to trigger with our set of actions.
Sorry, but I have no idea what you are talking about and feel you are hijacking my comment for another topic.
Fair Treatment: The heroes in Maradysh aren't left out.
Community Unity: Attempt to resolve the situation peaceful using the Twins.
Fair Treatment <- Except the twins would be pressured into accepting by their family.
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And hero's of the Maradysh won't be left out. They will pretty much achieve high positions in Maradysh society and then if they so will it find themselves a suitable marriage partner, but without any pressure.
So pressuring someone into a marriage is fair treatment to you?
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I will like to point out that the pressuring on the twins to get married is due to Maradysh values and not Arthwyd ones and wouldn't happen under the Arthwyd. If the twins had been born in the Arthwyd or the Merntir, they would not be getting that pressure.
It will still happen even if the twins end up marrying someone else as marrying for the good of the family and not for love or your own interest is part of the Maradysh culture.
It will still happen even if the twins end up marrying someone else as marrying for the good of the family and not for love or your own interest is part of the Maradysh culture.
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Did you read chosing their own partner without pressure. I was referring to a fact that if they stay they will be able to gain high position in Maradysh and then choose who they wish for their husband on their own without family pressure.
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But that doesn't really change the fact that we are pressing them indirectly. As Cadlon of Maradysh our current leader should know about Maradysh customs yet he is still willing to go with this wich means that he is indirectly discarding Arthwyd values because he knows that the twins will be put under such pressure.
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The twins are going to be put under pressure by the dint of being born into the Maradysh and growing up amongst the Maradysh. It isn't a thing that happens to just the twins, but pretty much all of the Maradysh.
Furthermore, the current Cadlon is Arthwydish due to being born and raised in Greenbay and ruling from Greenbay. Just because he is king of the Maradysh, he doesn't necessarily share their culture.
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Yes it does happen to all of Maradysh but by choosing to do it our current Cadlon shows that he is okay with it.
Basically he is supporting it and only thing that matters to him is that his Grandson will accept.
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How do you even know that he is aware of it?
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His mother (Bronwyn) was literally growing up among Maradysh.
He is their Cadlon as well and i don't think that Arthwyd have such great empire not to know about customs of their people.
Add to it that he as a Cadlon should have a meetings with Maradysh elders and not knowing their customs isn't really diplomatic.
That should include his grandson as well, if he is to be ruler of the Maradysh he should know their customs because royal family literally has one job, to lead.
So him accepting will mean that he is disregarding Arthwyd customs as well.
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His grandmother.
How? He isn't forcing anyone to marry.
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But he knows that they (the twins) if offered won't have a choice in the matter, they will be put under pressure and refusing will be viewed as bringing shame to their families, that is basically forcing someone to marry you.
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So? He isn't the one doing that. It is just an barbaric thing that barbarians do hence why they are barbarians. Cadlon Edwyn isn't forcing anyone to marry. If someone else is forcing the twins to marry, that isn't his fault.
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Not by the Arthwyd anyway. Arthwyd values don't allow that. However Maradysh cultures does expect people to marry for the good of the family so there is often pressure to marry into a good family or get a marriage that benefits the family.
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But he is using the situation and that way directly breaking Arthwyd customs.
It is basically the same as buying wife.
You can say that you don't support it and it isn't your fault but if you are giving the money to the seller to buy the wife what does that make you?