We can, assuming it actually gets voted for, and nothing goes wrong. So, hopefully that's what happens. We'll see.
Chronicles of Nations - Civ Quest
- Thread starter Oshha
- Start date
- Original
- Location
- Toronto, Canada
May I ask for clarification on this statement? I'm having a hard time understanding what its saying. An example would be nice.
seems to be a misunderstanding of how voting works, since voting the same thing twice doesn't actually count as voting for doing the action twice, only 1 of them is counted. So, not sure why people do it otherwise.
- Location
- Toronto, Canada
As far as I understand it, two of the same secondary action equals a main action. For example, two secondary actions of farming turns it into a main action, so instead to providing +2 temp econ, it's -3 temp econ but adds +1 permanent econ. Most main actions scale similarly to secondary actions, though.
If @Rockeye is referring to two secondary actions of settlements, then it can be explained as wanting to build settlements in two different targets or just approval voting for settlements. If it's the same target, it becomes a main action.
If @Rockeye is referring to two secondary actions of settlements, then it can be explained as wanting to build settlements in two different targets or just approval voting for settlements. If it's the same target, it becomes a main action.
Knight Draco
Tea Sipping Advocate of the Devil
- Location
- North America
oh I see what you mean. I also had problems with the clarification before.
- Location
- Sydney
Your new vote:
Is only counted as one vote for [SEC] Sunrise Mountain Passage.
Voting for the same action twice, five times or twenty is the same as voting for it once, that is to stop people inflating the vote with multiple votes for the same action.
If you want two [SEC] Sunrise Mountain Passage, the second needs to have x2 on the end. It would be easier to just vote for both MAIN and SEC of the action.
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- Location
- Sydney
We will still have 3 Temp Econ and 2 Temp Martial. The following can probably be afforded, with slight risk:
] Gain a Hero. (-2 Temp Econ AND -2 Temp Mystic)
] Gain a Baby Boom. (-2 Temp Diplo, -2 Temp Martial)
] Gain random general technology. (-1 Temp Diplo, -2 Temp Econ, -1 Temp Mystic)
] Gain random social concepts. (-1 Temp Diplo, -1 Temp Econ, -1 Temp Culture, -1 Temp Mystic)
] Gain random military technology. (-1 Temp Econ, -2 Temp Martial, -1 Temp Mystic)
I think to have the Golden Age we need Legitimacy and Stability at max, and dropping any stats below 0 will lose it.
[SEC] Venerate the Goddesses and [SEC] Settle Land = Greenbay would be best for affording Golden Age options, but that vote has no hope.
The options may be different in this mid-turn, so perhaps there will be a more suitable choice available.
If its keeping things from going below zero, then we might be good. But otherwise, we don't have any real options. So, I'm just gonna hope the 0 won't get rid of our golden age.
NúmenoreanNazgûl
Witch-King
- Location
- Minas Morgul
[X][SEC] Create New Trails.
[X][SEC] Settle Land = Greenbay
[X][SEC] Settle Land = Greenbay
If the Mountain Outpost counts as Arthwyd territory, shouldn't we get the option to Settle Land and Build Shrine on that province?Update should be up later today. In the meantime, here is a map.
Green = Arthwyd
Blue = Merntir
Purple = Forest Folk
Red = Lowland Zealots
Yellow = Freak Folk
White = Great Mountain & Winged Beasts
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Its not suited for land settlement, at least not with current tech. We'd probably need animal husbandry, and terraces and the like to do so.
Knight Draco
Tea Sipping Advocate of the Devil
- Location
- North America
I suggest we go with tech, more specifically random military tech.
also note that we have a max of 1 mystic, and our temp is on 2 (it will go down) so hero is not on option. also we only have one culture, so social concepts will bring that to zero I think). I think best bet is the tech.
If we get military tech, we can actually make use of the mystic, tech hero synergy and maybe get something that can be used alongside it. (i.e. if we got catapults, we can earth magic rocks for it, and will have ammo where ever we go. Thus, synergy.
Also by getting tech we change that stat on the civ sheet from a 0 into a 1
furthermore if we end up running into a hostile force later on in the golden age, the military innovations will help us in beating back the enemy. If we get the discrepancy to grow large enough, we might be able to keep our golden age even if the enemy attacks us due to our military rendering them negligible.
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- Location
- Sydney
That's not how it works.
The Temp will go down next main turn, we will be choosing the GA options in the mid-turn before that happens.
Catapults are a gigantic leap forward, a very very unlikely result.
Getting technology will not change the Tech stat.
Military Technology we have is:
Weapons
Spears
Slings
Bows & Arrows
Personal Protection
Primitive Shields
Organisation
Hunting Groups
Dedicated Scouts
So random military tech will be an addition or upgrade to these.
Knight Draco
Tea Sipping Advocate of the Devil
- Location
- North America
Oh so it doesn't kick in midturn
Good to know.
When I said catapults I didnt mean as in we would get them, I was giving an example of what synergy would be. Though rereading how I wrote that I can see why one would be lead to that conclusion. My b. The main point was that we can use the innovations from that with our magic, increasing the damage we deal to the enemy by combining them in one way or another if viable.
How do you know random mil tech doesn't change the tech stat?
If that doesn't, what does?
If it's based on something like whatever poc was, how does it work?
- Location
- Sydney
Oh, sorry, I did think you were planning on getting catapults. That possible synergy would apply to general technology as well; e.g. stone-shapers fusing the rocks of a dam together.
We will probably need much more people (stone manipulation gift is far) and improved magic abilities (currently earth magic is very slow, but precise)
All options could be argued to synergise with our magic; e.g. Baby Boom means more people, and so more magic users.
I know mil tech doesn't change the tech stat, because we have 6 military tech and our Tech stat is 0 not 6. Also it makes no narrative sense; how would (for example) catapult technology be spent or regenerate?
Oshha is running things differently, but I would expect we need scientists (social concept) before we gain Tech stat.
- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
- Pronouns
- He/Him
No, because the land isn't suitable for further settlement and there is already a shrine there.
- Location
- Leeds
Well I asked and you delivered.
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DON'T PANIC
- Location
- Present
Shouldn't we have 1 extra mystic then?
we'd need 2 more shrines
Yeah, but sadly... kinda a waste, not many people interested in following it. So... now we get to see what happens when we get 0 of a stat in a golden age. It might not end it. -shrugs- who knows?
- Location
- Sydney
We already have 0 in two stats (Tech , Wealth).
It may be the permanent stats are what is required to keep the Golden Age going, or maybe as long as the majority of Temp stats don't reach zero then it continues. If the requirement is majority of Temp are over 0, then many options will not end the Golden Age.
One thing I believe is that both Legitimacy and Stability must be at max for the Golden Age.
Also, keep in mind the mid-turn SEC action depends on what option is chosen. Unlocking Magic gave us a Venerate.
] Gain a Hero. 3/7 Temp stats at 0.
] Gain a Baby Boom. 3/7 Temp stats at 0.
] Gain random general technology. 5/7 Temp stats at 0.
] Gain random social concepts. 3/7 Temp stats at 0.
] Gain random military technology. 5/7 Temp stats at 0.
My guesses (may be wildly off)
] Gain a Hero. SEC Venerate
] Gain a Baby Boom. SEC settlement
] Gain random general technology. SEC fishing/farming
] Gain random social concepts. SEC Venerate
] Gain random military technology. SEC hunter
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Note that trying to artificially extend a Golden Age tends to have Consequences.
was it? i thought that was just rolled, and completely random. Also, we lack two stats completely, having zeroes in them doesn't really seem like a factor. Though the capped legitimacy and stability seem important as well.