Roth963
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I noticed it, but I assumed they would just think this is his name in the bunker, and that she discovered the Macross part just after joining them.
Calibration (BAHHSCQ/Sanctioned)
- Thread starter Alivaril
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- Crossover
I would like to point out that the source material, BAHHSCQ, has a Club that deals with Ballistic Trajectories.
They were playing Valkyrie Angry Birds.
Now replace the giant rocks with the puppies.
And the buildings with perfectly preserved corpses.
Had an idea for something that can be used in an omake for there reaction if Dreamer were to lean into their thoughts about this place
*Insert their complaints and a sarcastic but horrible comment here*
*Next room that very comment and a voice over the intercom*
Start at 0:09
*Insert their complaints and a sarcastic but horrible comment here*
*Next room that very comment and a voice over the intercom*
Start at 0:09
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- A single human dimension
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- She/Her
For those unaware, there is actually an non-canon sidestory covering a possible voiceover.
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Neruz
Rogue Spiderbanana
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- The Land of Fire and Poison
non-canon.
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- A single human dimension
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- She/Her
Jade Agni: "I'm in this picture and I don't like it."And then they take down the doggo and discover it has an internal biological nuclear reactor and enough fuel to keep itself going for a thousand years.
They're Valkyries, so... immediately.
Hadn't it/he just showed up at that point?
Roth963
If I become inactive with this massage, I died
I didn't really read the original yet, so I don't know, I assumed it was either close to the borders or just a type zero going into the human territory, what I had read said that they sometimes dies it.
- Location
- Leeds
Leave an audio log explaining how they've been engineered to go without food for weeks and they only get more rabid and fearsome as they go.
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- Somewhere other than where I am.
Maybe it is just me, but I would find it creepier to find the place responding to my thoughts without the voice-over, especially if it takes them a few rooms to catch on.
Torgamous
Aspiring Gynoid
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- She/Her
Dreamer: "Why are all my nuclear puppy blueprints getting overwritten by pictures of a girl glaring at me?"
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- A single human dimension
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- She/Her
Within the last day, yes.
So uh, I think it's worth noting that some viewpoint characters are more unreliable than others when it comes to narration. The UN does not have any reliable evidence pointing toward antagonist worship by inhabitants of the underground complex. Multiple people simply heard the description and immediately profiled them as a cult (EDIT) in general, not necessarily an Antagonist-worshipping cult.
*resets "Days since SV prompted concern" sign*
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- Terra-Luna
That does pose quite the intriguing factor. Basically everywhere in the Perth Arcology is under constant surveillance anyway even discounting the matter of QA literally saying it to a Valkyrie asking her so as to pass along information pertaining to a high-priority mission under time constraints. Pretty much anything of note is indeed noted and assessed in realtime. The interlude from the perspective of the sorely underpaid poor Doctor Rayne offered some insight into the big sister effect going on, with the file on "Taylor" getting updated constantly just in the time taken to read it—which, notably, was a reading done by a Valkyrie, no less, and thus probably a good deal faster than anything remotely representative of the actual readers of the story—and some of the events happening either right then and there in QA's interactions with the Crafting Club or very shortly afterward appeared to already had special projects spun off and further plans drawn up due to the developments, simply because it's all a case of Valkyries being Valkyries and thus working really, really fast when it comes to thinking and brainstorming in general. The exchange between QA and the amusingly "very efficient" inquiring Valkyrie is pretty much guaranteed to be dissected in detail.
So, what then happens because of that? QA referred to the Type Zero Macross as something other its official designation, and explicitly corrected herself regarding how she referred to it to thus provide that "proper" name. Why is that? At present, exact answers are ambiguous, but the information available can certainly entertain some suspicions. Cadet Hebert interacted with Macross in some manner; initial conjecture surmised that it may have been by way of rather lack thereof for Macross failing to locate a stealth-oriented Valkyrie frame that didn't even have any Impeller presence at all, but... well it really is just odd. That was their best guess at the time. Macross spent two whole minutes right there with her at ranges that by the standards of Valkyries and Antagonists was right under Macross's nose. All the more, Macross did know that something was there, quite obviously, because it destroyed the hidden bunker there... but then it spent a couple minutes doing seemingly nothing, not even saturating the whole area as it might if it detected some human presence that it couldn't pin down. In light of more recent developments, it all warrants some serious reevaluation.
"Symbie" may be some kind of exceptionally capable stealth frame. That does make some sense. There is also, though, legitimate argument that such may not be the case, or that QA's frame may not be solely a stealth unit. That same profile provided in Doctor Rayne's interlude noted some curious points. Symbie assimilated a datapad, and shortly thereafter, there were numerous search queries made that quite blatantly correlated to either Cadet Hebert making them or someone with the same big sister oversight trying to frame her, and the searches were both utterly untraceable and employed with successfully falsified high-level access codes, both of which being major accomplishments for duping other Valkyries and Valkyrie-upgraded equipment; per the profile file, it was enough to warrant Symbie getting classified as an electronic warfare specialist. The reclassification has all the more legitimacy in light of the Monolith Project that has to do with her curious automatic transmission of an odd data packet with absolutely incredible potential for cyberwarfare in what may offer a software superweapon. Combine that with the Valkyrie able to give the slip to a Type Zero and the other Valkyrie who is literally just the outright best bar none and recently soloed a Type Zero together collaborating to—on a whim—whip up a new sensor marvel with software already slated for mass adoption for being in a completely different league than now obsolete methods, it suggests that Cadet Hebert may be, indeed, basically a spook, someone perhaps peerless at going unnoticed and doing as she pleases.
That further raises some perhaps worrying—yet maybe also exciting—possibilities, too. Symbie has been noted to heavily favour organic design, with that thought to perhaps be influenced by a simple lack of alternative materials. Cadet Hebert has also been noted on more than one occasion to feature aspects with recognisable similarities to Antagonist design, and is outright the most organic Valkyrie on record period, to the point that "direct absorption from deceased Antagonists initially considered likely", in something of a parallel to Anna's own predatory predilection for Higgs farming. Possibly related, Cadet Hebert is also on record as having modified her Valkyrie Core directly whilst still synchronised with it; alone, that could suggest her to perhaps just be an incredibly lucky insane moron, but compounded with mind-boggling combat-capable Emotional Support Companion creations made in conjunction with the Crafting Club, it suggests that she may instead be an unrivaled genius within that area of focus.
Collectively, it all points towards a very real chance of something touching on the truth, that perhaps Cadet Hebert called the importantly newly arrived Type Zero designated by the UN as "Macross" by the alternative term of "Decimator" because she got its own name. Did Macross stick around in her immediate proximity for two minutes because she somehow subverted it? Or maybe had some sort of dialogue? That's going to have an awful lot of people very interested indeed, especially since intel on new Type Zeros is paramount on account of their aberrant nature with each having some unique and consequential gimmick to them.
On a somewhat different note, though, QA's prowess in technology and sheer ability to tackle mathematics might spur some interesting developments as the story continues. We've already hit one likely instance of something that could be a major deviation from BAHHSCQ canon on account of Yukari never asking Anna to look after Koujirou and Setsuna on account of QA accidentally scaring Anna off, unless we just had similar events play out differently anyway at some later point away from QA's perspective. That might change further, though, if QA gets brought in on the Ginnungagap Project. Anna has a super move, the powers that be want to make a doom cannon based off of it, and any shard worth their energy budget loves doom cannons. Given the crazy mathematics involved, too, QA may very well be able to help Anna personally on refining her signature move and/or teaching it to others, and I really don't see QA turning down an opportunity like that. Sure, people might be hesitant to give QA the necessary clearance to get involved, but her aptitude may go a long way towards incentivising her inclusion.
Come to think of it, QA and Anna just collaborating wholesale might get rather scary. QA will probably end up crushing on Anna all the harder when she inevitably learns about Anna's views towards unnecessary inefficiencies like those messy and crude bodily functions, and Anna being Anna, she might herself genuinely appreciate QA's own ventures in self-augmentation towards similar ends. Too, though QA may be downright pathetic by current reckoning in traditional Valkyrie standards, if there's one person whom I could see Anna teaching the Static Wave Force actually well rather than as a move as likely to kill the user as the enemy, it'd be the alien shard girl. On a similar note, QA may very well be able to do something about efforts to reverse-engineer Anna's Heavy Particle Projector array and allow Anna advance beyond her current "mere" four base guns.
Now that I think of it, too, I also really want to see what QA in her current state of trying to fit in with the current tech level handicap might make of the prevalent Higgs usage practically just hand-waving possibility. How did she do the thing? Higgs, obviously. Convenient excuse, that.
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- Euclidean plane
I'm curious as to what the impression of Symbie will ultimately be. Or even the first agreed-upon theory.
Here is a Core that's come out of a bunker that makes Fallout's vault tech look rather grounded and reasonable. Weapons development, human experimentation and conditioning, a total lack of morality, and an endless cycle of conflict all fall together with the presence of an alien construct that has almost certainly been altered somehow. You'd expect to see something horrific out of that. A frame that can only manifest in a warped, dangerous manner. Perhaps something that puppets their pilot or aggressively researches new ways to kill.
However you see the opposite. From the list of search topics Symbie used, it showed a concern for 'Taylor'. It searched for ways to heal her both physically and mentally. It had the initiative and foresight to research how it might be treated by humanity as a whole. Creates objects based on designs with much more organic material than humanity really favors. And most importantly, it reacts to Taylor's prompting casually.
So would Symbie be considered to be an altered Core with more human mannerisms and responses? Something that can be reasoned with and understood? This implies being able to change them successfully; more so than dumping a simple AI into them would warrant. Would it be considered rogue and too dangerous to leave without constant oversight, doubt, and double-guessing? Maybe it's bleeding together with Taylor, somewhat explaining her rather odd behavior and exotic knowledge. Some of these options almost certainly happened to one extent or another already to other cores, but there's that black hole of what happened in that bunker. And is Symbie worth trying to poke to get the same results for other cores?
Though it stands to see if other Valkyries and their cores measurably change in response to Taylor/QA/Symbie's actions recently. If they do.. that's a whole 'nother can of worms that paranoia will catch.
Here is a Core that's come out of a bunker that makes Fallout's vault tech look rather grounded and reasonable. Weapons development, human experimentation and conditioning, a total lack of morality, and an endless cycle of conflict all fall together with the presence of an alien construct that has almost certainly been altered somehow. You'd expect to see something horrific out of that. A frame that can only manifest in a warped, dangerous manner. Perhaps something that puppets their pilot or aggressively researches new ways to kill.
However you see the opposite. From the list of search topics Symbie used, it showed a concern for 'Taylor'. It searched for ways to heal her both physically and mentally. It had the initiative and foresight to research how it might be treated by humanity as a whole. Creates objects based on designs with much more organic material than humanity really favors. And most importantly, it reacts to Taylor's prompting casually.
So would Symbie be considered to be an altered Core with more human mannerisms and responses? Something that can be reasoned with and understood? This implies being able to change them successfully; more so than dumping a simple AI into them would warrant. Would it be considered rogue and too dangerous to leave without constant oversight, doubt, and double-guessing? Maybe it's bleeding together with Taylor, somewhat explaining her rather odd behavior and exotic knowledge. Some of these options almost certainly happened to one extent or another already to other cores, but there's that black hole of what happened in that bunker. And is Symbie worth trying to poke to get the same results for other cores?
Though it stands to see if other Valkyries and their cores measurably change in response to Taylor/QA/Symbie's actions recently. If they do.. that's a whole 'nother can of worms that paranoia will catch.
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- A Table Near You
Nah, Yukari went to look for Anna afterwards, and likely toured with the three as per canon.
Humans don't create Higgs particles ex nihilo, so if QA tries that excuse and somehow imitates the proper readings, she's not a Valkyrie—she's a Type Zero in disguise.
And that'd be spoilers, you know?
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- Terra-Luna
Observers can't be sure that Symbie was the one doing the searching there. Supposition of some unknown third party aside, the culprit would ordinarily most likely be the operator herself, rather than her Valkyrie Core. Ironically enough, though, in this particular case, no one can be sure that the actual Valkyrie Core itself wasn't the one responsible, either. The whole issue is after all to do with Cadet Hebert having a self-aware Valkyrie Core, so it may very well have conducted the search entirely of its own accord. Complicating matters all the more, though, if Hebert and Symbie are both their own selves and presumably very much synchronised, then how are people to tell with certainty which one is really which? How much might one influence the other, and how closely to they work together even if they might ostensibly be discrete identities? Who is "Taylor Hebert" if the girl has stayed synchronised with the Valkyrie Core continuously throughout a significant portion of her cognitive development growing up? And how might repeated, deliberate brain damage factor? Personality bleedthrough might be the least of their problems, honestly.
The investigation could prompt some interesting discussion and developments, though. Valkyrie Cores as a whole are indeed self-aware, and just not known to be so on account of never being explicit enough in their interactions with their partners, simply not showing recognisable signs of that self-awareness despite having it. On the other hand, though, Anna, who up until just recently has been entirely isolated from what "everyone knows" in UN customs and beliefs, is perfectly well aware that Durga is something of a person in its own right, and merely not terribly chatty. To her, the notion of Valkyrie Cores possessing personhood is normal, and reflected in how she thinks and interacts with them; they just, again, keep to themselves for the most part and aren't human in their behaviour. If Anna somehow gets caught up in the topic of Hebert having a Valkyrie Core that is unusual for such reasoning, that might prove an awfully confusing factor, both for herself and others should Anna herself in some way express that confusion. A single instance of a Valkyrie Core already under scrutiny for being an outlier as a presumed damaged one showing anomalous behaviour is one thing, but two different cores would make the case no longer unique, and could reveal the weighty truth that they're actually all like that. Of course, that could be complicated by Anna's own Durga likewise being undocumented and other Valkyrie Cores perhaps declining to respond to any prompting, so Symbie might end up considered entirely normal with regard to her self-awareness save for how obvious she is about it, or just a rare but not unique case.
Yukari did send Anna a message regarding a desire to introduce Anna to her brother, but Anna didn't show back up for the opening ceremony, and QA accompanied Setsuna after it. Too, given Anna's flustered state, the canon request may not have had the same impact for the timing. Still, it is entirely possible that Yukari might indeed have just made the request away from QA's perspective at one point or another. I find myself quite curious, though, if Yukari did actually make a completely identical request per canon. Originally, Yukari asks the girl who felt that she had failed everyone who ever depended on her to look after Koujirou and Setsuna, and that made a foundational impact upon Anna's character, with Anna setting an honestly quite manic determination to do just that, no matter what; here though... well the story also has this other lost girl alone and in need of help.
What happens if Yukari asked Anna to look after QA as well? QA can certainly make a sympathetic case for needing someone like that. All the more, Anna and QA got along pretty well earlier, too; despite the awkwardness over the misinterpretation of flirting and each of them hitting apparent trigger issues for one another, Yukari may very well think that simply having a friend would do some serious good for Anna herself, and she'd be right, at that.
Thus, the conundrums of trying to get readings on a stealth-based Valk! Obviously, she just had the Higgs reserves for shenanigans like any other perfectly normal Valkyrie who managed to get hold of some, and if the readings look a little weird, who's to say what they're supposed to look like! Is she messing up the signature? Is she falsifying the sensors themselves? Nobody knows! No one can definitively prove that she isn't making physics cry the right particular way. There could be some amusing shenanigans for the cast list disposition, though; those character options at the beginning of the main quest have some delightful potential for QA to slot in perfectly neatly for some of the character options not featured.
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- Britain
Do Antagonists have impeller? I don't recall exactly but one interpretation would be that Symbie achieves stealth by infiltration. Drop impeller entirely, then have your fancy (cheating) IFF system trigger friendly to the Type 0 and you have stealth, just not the traditional kind. I mean QA is just helping their systems recognise her as friendly after all, wouldn't want a friend to accidentally fire at her.
Yes, they expressly do. On mobile at the moment, but will look for a direct quote when I get access to a computer.
I would just assume that Symbie is an antagonist. She likely started as a minor antagonist, tortured until they found a way to erase its mind, forced to cannibalise antagonist corpses to increase its capabilities... all the while being brainwashed to believe that it is a Valkyrie core. Then it is bonded to Taylor and they are raised together as sisters. If an antagonist thinks that it is a valkyrie core, acts like a valkyrie core, and has the capabilities of one, does it matter what it started as?
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- A single human dimension
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- She/Her
. . . Well, you're technically not wrong there.
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Specifically, blueprints for an incomplete design that had multiple flaws beyond the reactor — such as a loyalty to Decimator — which were obviously just traps to test QA with. And the holes+inefficiencies in the design were just intended to make sure QA's host was actually an Innovator and was authorized to make such equipment.
Obviously.
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Okay, so apparently I had overestimated starfish alien
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