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Strypgia said:
Titanic was a cast-iron eggshell compared to Mo's 12" belt, though.
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I'm... going to be nice and assume that you don't understand the dangers of ice. There are reasons why warships do not go up to the high arctic or Antarctic without an Icebreaker. Because said ice can badly damage them. Heck, pack ice can actually crush ships like you would an tin can. Dealing with those conditions are best left to a ship designed around them.
 
Strypgia said:
Titanic was a cast-iron eggshell compared to Mo's 12" belt, though.
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Harry Leferts said:
I'm... going to be nice and assume that you don't understand the dangers of ice. There are reasons why warships do not go up to the high arctic or Antarctic without an Icebreaker. Because said ice can badly damage them. Heck, pack ice can actually crush ships like you would an tin can. Dealing with those conditions are best left to a ship designed around them.
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Ice was very, very tough, considering their weight and size. Sure, they might be brittle, but still hard enough that icicle rains is still a legitimate hazards.

Now imagine, said ice that hard enough to break glasses and put a dent in the car, sized up to the size of house-mass of fuck you, and cannot easily be fractured into harmless fragments.
 
Heck, aren't the Russian nuclear icebreakers almost more ribs then space for the frame?

Speaking of which, how are the nuclear icebreakers doing? Now I'm imagining them ramming Habakuck Princess and the princess coming out second best...
 
Wait, what happened to Byysko's demonspawn? Did Mo annihilate them along with their mother or...?
 
RBomber said:
Ice was very, very tough, considering their weight and size. Sure, they might be brittle, but still hard enough that icicle rains is still a legitimate hazards.

Now imagine, said ice that hard enough to break glasses and put a dent in the car, sized up to the size of house-mass of fuck you, and cannot easily be fractured into harmless fragments.
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There's a park here in Dartmouth at the waterfront. One of the center pieces is the propeller from the Icebreaker CCGS Sir John A. MacDonald (yes, we name Icebreakers after our Prime Ministers, not warships). During one of her missions, she needed to save a smaller vessel. Partway through, her crew detected that the propeller shaft was vibrating and acting it up. But they continued the mission and eventually rescued the ship. When they got back to port, they put her into dry dock and examined the damage... a chunk of said propeller was snapped off. If you place your hand against the break, the chunk is as thick as your hand is wide at it's thickest. A piece of sea ice did that.
Sir_Gaea said:
Heck, aren't the Russian nuclear icebreakers almost more ribs then space for the frame?
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That's actually all Icebreaker and most ships designed to operate in Arctic conditions.
 
Harry Leferts said:
I'm... going to be nice and assume that you don't understand the dangers of ice. There are reasons why warships do not go up to the high arctic or Antarctic without an Icebreaker. Because said ice can badly damage them. Heck, pack ice can actually crush ships like you would an tin can. Dealing with those conditions are best left to a ship designed around them.
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Well, I did fall off a turnip truck yesterday.

At no point did I say 'herp derp! ice is no problem for botes of war! hyuck!' Everything you just said may be true, yet is still irrelevant to the comparison at hand. We're talking about a Titanic-like collision or scrape against an iceberg. Titanic, being a passenger liner built for capacity and speed had a slightly less robust hull than 'late-model battleship meant to shrug off 16" shells'. And all other things being equal, the hull of an Iowa-class BB is probably more resistant to icebergs than a 1912 passenger liner.

Getting pinched between to multi-million ton bergs? Sure, probably crush Mo like a taco shell. But I'm willing to bet Mo is a bit more resistant to a brush along one than Titanic was. Titanic's hull was no thicker than it had to be. Mo's is as thick as it could be.
 
Strypgia said:
Well, I did fall off a turnip truck yesterday.

At no point did I say 'herp derp! ice is no problem for botes of war! hyuck!' Everything you just said may be true, yet is still irrelevant to the comparison at hand. We're talking about a Titanic-like collision or scrape against an iceberg. Titanic, being a passenger liner built for capacity and speed had a slightly less robust hull than 'late-model battleship meant to shrug off 16" shells'. And all other things being equal, the hull of an Iowa-class BB is probably more resistant to icebergs than a 1912 passenger liner.

Getting pinched between to multi-million ton bergs? Sure, probably crush Mo like a taco shell. But I'm willing to bet Mo is a bit more resistant to a brush along one than Titanic was. Titanic's hull was no thicker than it had to be. Mo's is as thick as it could be.
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Not that much more resistant to icebergs. Even Icebreakers avoid them whenever possible. And even if it can't punch through the hull, it's going to cave in her ribs.
 
And note that Iowa's have internal armor belts, therefore it will be the STS shell plating that takes the iceberg collision not the actual belt, plus the belt doesn't extend to the bow, which is solely STS plating. Might not sink her, but the shock damage will do a number on her electronics and optics and she'll not be going much above 5 knots after wards if she's lucky and doesn't pop a prop seal.
 
starting to look like a derail guys. either drop it, or go to PM. do not want those who type in different colors to come looking at us.
 
Strypgia said:
I must have forgotten the part where I said that, then. Since what I said was 'Mo is tougher than a 1912 liner', not 'Iowa-class BBs are ice-proof'.
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Yes? And your comment was in regards how Gale brought up the damage done to Titanic while going at twenty knots compared to what the damage would be to Mo going at 38 knots.
 
So, is this the true turning point of the war? Bisko and Tirpiz, plus those wunderwaffe H-class ships may have been the last big guns the Abyssals had. There's not any more resources or easy victories for them to claim to get additional tonnage back.

Raiding and guerilla tactics will still be an issue for some time, but I think Mo just won the war right here.
 
Coffee Fairy is sad...
YuffieK said:
So, is this the true turning point of the war? Bisko and Tirpiz, plus those wunderwaffe H-class ships may have been the last big guns the Abyssals had. There's not any more resources or easy victories for them to claim to get additional tonnage back.

Raiding and guerilla tactics will still be an issue for some time, but I think Mo just won the war right here.
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Hmm~?
 
Old Iron said:
Coffee Fairy is sad...
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Coffee Fairy may be sad, but Coffee Fairy is NAVY and therefore an Unstoppable Juggernaut of Caffienated Might.

This is what Navy Coffee does to that pansy mermaid outfit from Seattle that claims their overpriced sugar & cream concoctions are 'coffee' (Shipgirls drink it not because it's coffee, but because it's like drinking cake frosting) :

 
Again, what did happen to Byssko's babies? is it possible that they survived?
 
Old Iron said:
Coffee Fairy is sad...

Hmm~?
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D'awww *hugs tight*
YuffieK said:
Coffee Fairy may be sad, but Coffee Fairy is NAVY and therefore an Unstoppable Juggernaut of Caffienated Might.

This is what Navy Coffee does to that pansy mermaid outfit from Seattle that claims their overpriced sugar & cream concoctions are 'coffee' (Shipgirls drink it not because it's coffee, but because it's like drinking cake frosting) :

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xD Black Blood of the Earth Anyone?
Sanae Aran said:
Again, what did happen to Byssko's babies? is it possible that they survived?
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Guys, Bisko is not dead, yet. She will be one Jersey gets there, along with the poor little bastards escorting her.
 
Gearhead said:
Another thing to consider: This was a hit on Pearl. There's something.. Resonant.. about that.
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He's got a point, you know.
landcollector said:
Not quite. IIRC, Abyssal Tosa's still out there.
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And then Tosa kicked Iron in the back of the head for being so bloody slow.
YuffieK said:
Coffee Fairy may be sad, but Coffee Fairy is NAVY and therefore an Unstoppable Juggernaut of Caffienated Might.

This is what Navy Coffee does to that pansy mermaid outfit from Seattle that claims their overpriced sugar & cream concoctions are 'coffee' (Shipgirls drink it not because it's coffee, but because it's like drinking cake frosting) :
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I laughed a bit too hard at this, I'll admit. XD
Sanae Aran said:
Again, what did happen to Byssko's babies? is it possible that they survived?
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Their fate is unknown. For all we know, they co-*redacted*
 
konnigvanmessen said:
xD Black Blood of the Earth Anyone?
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Either that or coffee brittle. (think peanut brittle, but with ground coffee instead of peanuts; at least half coffee by weight)


Imagine a very strong coffee, with a hefty helping of sugar. Then remove all the water.

Slightly hard on the jaw. May also cause twitching. Please don't tell Kongou it's candy.


Either way, what's the tally on enemy battleships so far? Sounds like a few have been sunk, but unknown if they're the 'important' ones.
 
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Love the update! Awesome surface action! The Mighty Mo and her crew carried out a great defense given their foe. Shades of Thermopylae and the Alamo....
 
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