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Belated Battleships (KanColle) [REHOST]

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RevenVrake said:
Only if their torpedoes actually, ya know, work. American Submarines had this tiny little hiccup with their torpedoes where the torpedoes could suddenly decide to not detonate, dive deeper, run to the surface, get scared by the dark and run back to the sub, etc...
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Aren't most of their submarines Japanese? I was under the impression that the only American subs they had were Archerfish and Albacore. That's a rather different situation than just sending any old WWII US sub at Bismarck.

Albie has the best track record, in-terms of total tonnage sunk, of any of the US subs in WWII. So she probably knows some ways to increase her accuracy. And, while Archie really only has the Shinano (and a few possible minor sunk targets), in-terms of tonnage sunk, she's had a while as a kanmusu to potentially learn from Albie and hone her technique. So I expect their accuracy would be higher than average.

And, of course, the Japanese torpedoes were the best deployed during the war. And that's what the majority of subs hunting Bismarck would be packing.
Rampantfury said:
I think she might be too fast for subs to keep up with.
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theJMPer said:
She is. She cruises at 19 knots. Most subs can't even sprint that fast.
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That's a much bigger issue than their torpedoes. Still, I expect the subs will be useful for finding the Bismarck, for the rest of the fleet to come and tear to pieces.
Rampantfury said:
Unless they find a good hiding spot and ambush her that is.
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That's not really keeping up with Bismarck, though. That's letting Bismarck come to them. Which is certainly one way to deal with their disadvantage in speed.
 
Nixeu said:
Albie has the best track record, in-terms of total tonnage sunk, of any of the US subs in WWII. So she probably knows some ways to increase her accuracy. And, while Archie really only has the Shinano (and a few possible minor sunk targets), in-terms of tonnage sunk, she's had a while as a kanmusu to potentially learn from Albie and hone her technique. So I expect their accuracy would be higher than average.

And, of course, the Japanese torpedoes were the best deployed during the war. And that's what the majority of subs hunting Bismarck would be packing.
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Well also remember that Albie (and probably Archie as well) are training the Japanese subs in wolfpack tactics. That deals with the IJN submarine force's major doctrinal shortcoming even if the emphasis will still be on warships versus abyssal merchant shipping (if such exists). That said, their major focus at this stage of the war is probably intelligence-gathering. Once they locate the harbors the Abyssals are using, then the submarine forces can see about staking the transit routes out for ambushes.

If you want a nasty wolfpack, Iku and Archie each have a carrier to their credit and wouldn;t mind adding a battleship or three to the kill tallies.
 
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Lay a trap for her and the Abysstwins.

Bait: Slow-moving convoy with piecemeal DD escorts. Main fleet ten miles away as distant cover.
Trap: Every submarine you can muster sailing underwater nearby.
Warning system: Several merchants outfitted with helicopter facilities for advance scouts.

Abyssals allow the choppers to sight them, knowing it will sow panic. It appears to do just that, but also alerts the submarines (who are cruising with their radio aerials above water) that their targets are inbound. Submarines intercept Abyssal trio and severely wound them (possibly sink one of the Abysstwins) before main fleet moves in and...well, it ain't pretty.
 
Nixeu said:
Aren't most of their submarines Japanese? I was under the impression that the only American subs they had were Archerfish and Albacore. That's a rather different situation than just sending any old WWII US sub at Bismarck.
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The only American subs that we know of. Nobody's comfortable saying there aren't subtheives out doing their own thing without calling in.
 
ijnfleetadmiral said:
Lay a trap for her and the Abysstwins.

Bait: Slow-moving convoy with piecemeal DD escorts. Main fleet ten miles away as distant cover.
Trap: Every submarine you can muster sailing underwater nearby.
Warning system: Several merchants outfitted with helicopter facilities for advance scouts.

Abyssals allow the choppers to sight them, knowing it will sow panic. It appears to do just that, but also alerts the submarines (who are cruising with their radio aerials above water) that their targets are inbound. Submarines intercept Abyssal trio and severely wound them (possibly sink one of the Abysstwins) before main fleet moves in and...well, it ain't pretty.
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Wouldn't even need to have the aerials up, just have them shadowing the merchants and tell the merchants to turn away from the Abyssals when spotted. Now they know the convoy spotted them and which direction they are in.

Darth Herobrine said:
I've been thinking about doing some snippets with USS Silversides at some point...
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The one in Muskegon? Heh. Have U-505 show up and shenanigans ensue!

I wonder if UC-97 is poking around the lakes as an Abyssal? I mean, captured, paraded around as a prisoner, then executed by firing squad. She's probably not a happy camper.
 
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Nixeu said:
Aren't most of their submarines Japanese? I was under the impression that the only American subs they had were Archerfish and Albacore.
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In case you didn't notice, I never said Yank subs. Although their influence would be in teaching any other sub the song. All hail Albacore and Archerfish-sensei!
 
SisterJeanne said:
Well also remember that Albie (and probably Archie as well) are training the Japanese subs in wolfpack tactics. That deals with the IJN submarine force's major doctrinal shortcoming even if the emphasis will still be on warships versus abyssal merchant shipping (if such exists). That said, their major focus at this stage of the war is probably intelligence-gathering. Once they locate the harbors the Abyssals are using, then the submarine forces can see about staking the transit routes out for ambushes.

If you want a nasty wolfpack, Iku and Archie each have a carrier to their credit and wouldn;t mind adding a battleship or three to the kill tallies.
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If Bismarck is smart, she's operating very guerilla. Bait of some sort would probably work better, faster.
ijnfleetadmiral said:
Lay a trap for her and the Abysstwins.

Bait: Slow-moving convoy with piecemeal DD escorts. Main fleet ten miles away as distant cover.
Trap: Every submarine you can muster sailing underwater nearby.
Warning system: Several merchants outfitted with helicopter facilities for advance scouts.

Abyssals allow the choppers to sight them, knowing it will sow panic. It appears to do just that, but also alerts the submarines (who are cruising with their radio aerials above water) that their targets are inbound. Submarines intercept Abyssal trio and severely wound them (possibly sink one of the Abysstwins) before main fleet moves in and...well, it ain't pretty.
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Exactly.
theJMPer said:
The only American subs that we know of. Nobody's comfortable saying there aren't subtheives out doing their own thing without calling in.
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Fair enough. Stealthy subs be stealthy.
LadyPearl said:
In case you didn't notice, I never said Yank subs. Although their influence would be in teaching any other sub the song. All hail Albacore and Archerfish-sensei!
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I mean...for surface ships, if their torpedoes are that bad, they're more likely to use their guns. Which should be good enough for taking down Bismarck.
 
Nixeu said:
I mean...for surface ships, if their torpedoes are that bad, they're more likely to use their guns. Which should be good enough for taking down Bismarck.
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Dude, subs have guns that belongs to destroyers. All the good that you're gonna do is just scratch Bisko's paint at best.
They'll be rekt by Bisko's secondaries if they try to surface and attack. Not to mention that doing that is practically suicide.
 
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Can't we just distract the crazy Nazibote with a Hitler doll full of explosives? Looney Tunes style?

*is not being helpful*
 
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