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Hm. Just wondering, has Exeter shown up in any of Sky's Eurobotes snips?
 
Ok, this is weird... someone is stealing the bodies!
The Thieves Who Steal Sunken Warships, Right Down to the Bolts

Last November, a team of international divers departed the Indonesian island of Java on a mission to survey sunken World War II warships. The Danish government had tasked them to assess the condition of two particular Dutch vessels, the Hr. Ms. Java and Hr. Ms. De Ruyter, both sunk in 1942 during the Battle of the Java Sea, not far from the remote island of Bawean.

What these divers should have found was a 6,440-ton cruiser, complete with tower, turrets, and catapult—a ship long and large enough to launch a seaplane. Instead, they found only the impression of a hull on an empty seafloor. The vessel that had once lain there had first been discovered in 2001. It was surveyed a year later. Since then, recreational divers had visited. And sure, ocean currents can drag debris from a downed plane or even cause a renaissance galleon to resurface. But this was a massive steel ship. The only way it was going to go anywhere was if someone—or lots of someones—had moved it.

The team's search for other battle casualties in the area was no less haunting. HMAS Perch, a 300-foot-long Australian submarine, was gone. So were two British ships—the 329-foot HMS Encounter and the 574-foot Exeter. Another, the 329-foot HMS Electra, had been gutted. A huge section of the Kortenaer, another 322-foot Dutch warship, was also missing. Seven ships in all—either lost without a trace or grossly scavenged. An eighth, the USS Houston, was mostly intact, but it was clear pirates had begun gutting it as well.
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Nearly all the ships sunk at the Battle of the Java Sea are just... gone. The entire wrecks stolen and sold as scrap.
 
Well, someone's gonna be coughing up reparations for disturbing war graves...
 
Strypgia said:
And Grand Theft: All the ships are still legally the property of their respective Navies.
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That falls rather far second to the first in my opinion. I'm just glad those were Dutch and Commonwealth ships- they will be far more diplomatic about this than we would. I know my opening offer would "only" be the value of the ships as launched times interest.

Burning Baron said:
Who would perform the investigation?
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Nothing to investigate- anyone boarding the area or presently claiming it as territorial waters can cough up the dough.

PAGDTenno said:
If they can find the fuckers.

On a side note, I am totally okay with shooting on sight.
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See, my solution is Ye Olde AC-130 to express the thoughts of "you fucked up." Airborne 105mm howitzer fire makes a compelling argument to scrapers I would presume.
 
7734 said:
That falls rather far second to the first in my opinion. I'm just glad those were Dutch and Commonwealth ships- they will be far more diplomatic about this than we would. I know my opening offer would "only" be the value of the ships as launched times interest.



Nothing to investigate- anyone boarding the area or presently claiming it as territorial waters can cough up the dough.



See, my solution is Ye Olde AC-130 to express the thoughts of "you fucked up." Airborne 105mm howitzer fire makes a compelling argument to scrapers I would presume.
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are any of the old OHP frigates still sea worthy because I think they'd do a better job of expressing "get your fucking mits off our shit" than the AC-130 would because it can sit on the area.
 
In my opinion. They should have formally asked if they could salvage the wrecks instead of doing it illegally. I wouldn't mind seeing a big stick sitting over Housten and blasting any fucker that tries to get near her to hell.
The dead deserve their rest and respect.
To disturb that rest in such a disrespectful manner, invites vengeful ghosts to rise up from the deep and inflict suffering onto the living.

While it was never stated in story how the war the started... I can almost see shit like that being one of the things that triggered it.
I'm superstitious enough to know exactly what happens when one desecrates a grave, let alone one where so many had died.
 
PAGDTenno said:
On a side note, I am totally okay with shooting on sight.
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7734 said:
See, my solution is Ye Olde AC-130 to express the thoughts of "you fucked up." Airborne 105mm howitzer fire makes a compelling argument to scrapers I would presume.
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Well... Good Luck on convince Indonesian Gov't on that. Except you do full invasion, that's not gonna work.
Admiral_Corgi said:
In my opinion. They should have formally asked if they could salvage the wrecks instead of doing it illegally. I wouldn't mind seeing a big stick sitting over Housten and blasting any fucker that tries to get near her to hell.
The dead deserve their rest and respect.
To disturb that rest in such a disrespectful manner, invites vengeful ghosts to rise up from the deep and inflict suffering onto the living.
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Ah, see, here's the thing: Most salvagers-would-be (and my people in general) wouldn't consider it as watery grave. As far as they concerned, that's a bunch of hunk steel, nobody guard it, nobody own it, we can profit from it.

Police for most part doesn't really care for it; the salvagers didn't harm anyone or selling dangerous stuff.

Also, making formal request is kinda, uh, laughable. In here, on this stuff, local power and money talks more than formal law. Also, stereotypically, iron scrappers (in which, logically, most of hull ends up in) are usually associated with..kind-of-right-wing affiliation.
 
Addendum: If you want the wreck (or whatever left of it) preserved, this what you should do: You call anyone who had connection to said hull, grandchildren of victims (try to find the female, cute ones) (or just cute ones or old widows of said victims), then you beg. Publically.

Tears and all.

See, for all we are proud people, we kinda have weakness on 'plight of the weak'. That's why we have TV series where we publically help poor people on some stuff. Repair their homes, gave them money to spend, things like that.

It could work, like, 80% chance of working. (Throwing money had 50% chance of working) (Making angry ultimatum had 15% chance of working, and 70% chance of backfiring)
 
RBomber said:
Well... Good Luck on convince Indonesian Gov't on that. Except you do full invasion, that's not gonna work.

Ah, see, here's the thing: Most salvagers-would-be (and my people in general) wouldn't consider it as watery grave. As far as they concerned, that's a bunch of hunk steel, nobody guard it, nobody own it, we can profit from it.

Police for most part doesn't really care for it; the salvagers didn't harm anyone or selling dangerous stuff.

Also, making formal request is kinda, uh, laughable. In here, on this stuff, local power and money talks more than formal law. Also, stereotypically, iron scrappers (in which, logically, most of hull ends up in) are usually associated with..kind-of-right-wing affiliation.
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RBomber said:
Addendum: If you want the wreck (or whatever left of it) preserved, this what you should do: You call anyone who had connection to said hull, grandchildren of victims (try to find the female, cute ones) (or just cute ones or old widows of said victims), then you beg. Publically.

Tears and all.

See, for all we are proud people, we kinda have weakness on 'plight of the weak'. That's why we have TV series where we publically help poor people on some stuff. Repair their homes, gave them money to spend, things like that.

It could work, like, 80% chance of working. (Throwing money had 50% chance of working) (Making angry ultimatum had 15% chance of working, and 70% chance of backfiring)
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Yeah... but in this world, Indonesia is likely to one of those nations who get hit with blame for the Abyssals as no one is going to know why the showed up. And disturbing graves has all sorts of folklore behind why it's a bad idea...
 
Harry Leferts said:
Yeah... but in this world, Indonesia is likely to one of those nations who get hit with blame for the Abyssals as no one is going to know why the showed up. And disturbing graves has all sorts of folklore behind why it's a bad idea...
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Well, that's explain Harbour Princess presence. And why she's... a bit... affable.

EDIT: Also, I had to admit that our nautical folklore, for whatever reason, seems a bit... lacking.
 
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Harry Leferts said:
Yeah... but in this world, Indonesia is likely to one of those nations who get hit with blame for the Abyssals as no one is going to know why the showed up. And disturbing graves has all sorts of folklore behind why it's a bad idea...
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Aye aye. I dunno about ya'll but I've seen enough spooky stuff in my life to be rightfully afraid of what could be unleashed if one were disturb war graves. There are very very good reasons I will never visit neither battlefield nor be on the surface near a wartime shipwreck, at night. Nope. I made that mistake only twice in life, and both nearly had me die of fright.

You know, I wouldn't be surprise if Crowning looked at some of the Maritime folklore to see if there was anything like the Abyssals that could've popped up before.
Can't rule it out since if Shipgirls have been around since ancient times in-story...who's to say their opposite haven't also been around for as long?
Now that could be a very scary thought, but maybe it could also give clues of how these buggers work and how to beat em, Maybe.
 
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