It might. It could also be a pointer that they should be aware of their own fallibility when pursuing a relationship. It would obviously vary from ship to ship, but still.

And there are other main character romances going on to draw inspiration or determination from. Gale and Washington, albeit more low key, is one. Goto and Kongou is likely to be another when they finally get in gear.
Isn't there also the possibility of Arizona and Admiral Richardson?
 
A Kongou shouldn't come before doing your job. If anything, Kongou should know that.

He's not letting Kongou come before his work, because he doesn't know that there's any time-sensitive work. Unless you're claiming he has shipgirl-clairvoyance, and knows without being told or looking about Mushi's Twitter and/or Instagram feeds, which it doesn't seem he has, because, like a good admiral, he's probably delegated shipgirl PR to a subordinate.

Said subordinate, unless he's checked Musashi's feed in the last literal ten minutes has nothing to report.

Two words: Tailhook Scandal.
Just introducing this plot thread has caused plenty of uproar, so am I really out of line in wanting another shipgirl-sex-and-relationships detail to go right the first time?

Tailhook was thought to have been getting out of hand even by several (former) attendees, who skipped that year specifically because the Tailhook conventions had started getting out of hand.
 
PAGDTenno, that is not relevant to the situation. Since you seem to be unaware of or have forgotten Tailhook's relevance to this story, here is a reminder.

It is relevant,because my point is that Tailhook is on a whole different scale from Jersey and Mushi fucking.

Seriously, this is akin to a sailor sleeping with a sailor from another navy while both are on leave, then one brags about it on social media.
 
It is relevant,because my point is that Tailhook is on a whole different scale from Jersey and Mushi fucking.

Seriously, this is akin to a sailor sleeping with a sailor from another navy while both are on leave, then one brags about it on social media.
I'd say it's a bit more serious than that. For one both of these girls are celebrities in both their respective nations (didn't they rename the Iowa the New Jersey in WoWS Canonically), which means whether they want it or not their actions effect how the public views the Ship Girl programs as a whole. For another both of these Ships are some of the largest single surface Combat assets in their respective nations. If their ability to fight together is compromised because of something like this this could effect the safety of the nations as a whole.
 
I'd say it's a bit more serious than that. For one both of these girls are celebrities in both their respective nations (didn't they rename the Iowa the New Jersey in WoWS Canonically), which means whether they want it or not their actions effect how the public views the Ship Girl programs as a whole. For another both of these Ships are some of the largest single surface Combat assets in their respective nations. If their ability to fight together is compromised because of something like this this could effect the safety of the nations as a whole.
The only reason I can see this causing issues is if Jersey gets pissed about what happened between her and Musashi is cause Crowing finding out. Jersey I don't think is a prude. So the reveal if no Crowing was present at all may not mean anything to her.

And even if Jersey does get pissed, it does not paint a good picture of her. I can easily see someone saying that the only reason she is pissed is cause her BF/whatever now knows the truth.

Man, this drama is delicious!
 
The only reason I can see this causing issues is if Jersey gets pissed about what happened between her and Musashi is cause Crowing finding out. Jersey I don't think is a prude. So the reveal if no Crowing was present at all may not mean anything to her.

And even if Jersey does get pissed, it does not paint a good picture of her. I can easily see someone saying that the only reason she is pissed is cause her BF/whatever now knows the truth.

Man, this drama is delicious!
I don't think Jersey would care "normally" but she resents the hell out of herself for this already, and I think her (unhealthy) reaction would be to try to pretend it didn't happen as far as others are concerned and, on the Crowning front work up the courage to talk to him about it. Mushis actions neatly cut of both options as well as rubbing her face in it.
 
Right now Jersey is full of self-loathing because she ruined what might have been between her and Crowning. She knows she needs to talk to Crowning, but once again runs away from her feelings. She feels she has sometime to think of what to say to Crowning whereas Musashi's actions cut her time to nothing.

She wants Crowning, but is too afraid to admit that, because that opens the door to a lot of other emotions that she can't deal with, because then that would mean she might actually be human, being able to fail, where as she still hates herself for the battle of Samar where Taffy 3 got mauled.
[EDIT] Beat to it @Viper5delta
 
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I don't think Jersey would care "normally"
Same as I see it.

but she resents the hell out of herself for this already, and I think her (unhealthy) reaction would be to try to pretend it didn't happen as far as others are concerned and, on the Crowning front work up the courage to talk to him about it.
So just like other cheaters then?

Cause you hear the stories? It was never supposed to happen. It was just a 1 time thing!! I was drunk, etc.

Don't get me wrong. I don't hate Jersey or anything. Infact, this whole episode has made me like her. So human she is.

A bit of a shame the OP went with Musashi revealing all. See Jersey has decided to put off not telling Prof. guy. Plenty of opportunities for more temptation.

And Musashi would encourage it. Why not? The sex was great. And Jersey, oh so human, keeps making excuses saying that what happens in japan stays in japan, its just sex and doesn't mean anything, she just wants some comfort cause her sis is dead, etc.

And then reveal all! Pics of Musashi and Jersey kissing, on a date, after sex?

That would have been mega-viral.
 
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I'd say it's a bit more serious than that. For one both of these girls are celebrities in both their respective nations (didn't they rename the Iowa the New Jersey in WoWS Canonically), which means whether they want it or not their actions effect how the public views the Ship Girl programs as a whole. For another both of these Ships are some of the largest single surface Combat assets in their respective nations. If their ability to fight together is compromised because of something like this this could effect the safety of the nations as a whole.

Not really. What's the public gonna say, "MY GOD! The shipgirls are girls! With sex drives!"

I mean, yeah, America can be stupid and prudish because when it comes to sex. But I don't think Jersey/Crowning's "I refuse to admit I'm in a relationship" is public knowledge, and that's usually what causes sex scandals to blow up in the US (Cheating).

But honestly, I think we've covered most of the ground there is to cover, and going back over it's basically verbal masturbation at this point.
 
Not really. What's the public gonna say, "MY GOD! The shipgirls are girls! With sex drives!"

I mean, yeah, America can be stupid and prudish because when it comes to sex. But I don't think Jersey/Crowning's "I refuse to admit I'm in a relationship" is public knowledge, and that's usually what causes sex scandals to blow up in the US (Cheating).

But honestly, I think we've covered most of the ground there is to cover, and going back over it's basically verbal masturbation at this point.
I don't think the sex will (directly) be the issue, I think it will be the brawl I foresee happening in the near future, sparked by Mushi's twitter post when Jersey finds out about it. But yeah, you have your view, I have mine, and If you're willing to have a gentlemens agreement to agree to disagree, who am I to argue. Definitely looking forward to how this turns out.
 
Same as I see it.


So just like other cheaters then?

Cause you hear the stories? It was never supposed to happen. It was just a 1 time thing!! I was drunk, etc.

Don't get me wrong. I don't hate Jersey or anything. Infact, this whole episode has made me like her. So human she is.

A bit of a shame the OP went with Musashi revealing all. See Jersey has decided to put off not telling Prof. guy. Plenty of opportunities for more temptation.

And Musashi would encourage it. Why not? The sex was great. And Jersey, oh so human, keeps making excuses saying that what happens in japan stays in japan, its just sex and doesn't mean anything, she just wants some comfort cause her sis is dead, etc.

And then reveal all! Pics of Musashi and Jersey kissing, on a date, after sex?

That would have been mega-viral.
That would be a bit more drama than I would care for :p As well as thoroughly ruining my opinion of Jersey. Once in a moment of stress I more than understand an am willing to forgive. More than that strays from the territory of making a mistake, which she genuinely regrets, into being a cuckold. No matter how tenuous the relationship.
 
Same as I see it.


So just like other cheaters then?

Cause you hear the stories? It was never supposed to happen. It was just a 1 time thing!! I was drunk, etc.

Ummmm...

Have you read any of the story surrounding Big J's actions???

This is not civvie cheating, it is a well known reaction to extreme trauma and loss. It is literally Jersey's reptilian hind brain going "New Jersey is not here at the moment. leave a message at the beep" and seeking the most primal affirmation of life there is.

Will Crowning like it? Hell No!
Will he fly off the handle and see it as cheating? Unlikely. He is well read enough to understand it as a one time deal... Jersey's inadequacy issues are also unlikely to phase him overmuch anymore.
Will there be hilarity ensuing? Very Probably Yes.
 
Ummmm...

Have you read any of the story surrounding Big J's actions???

This is not civvie cheating, it is a well known reaction to extreme trauma and loss. It is literally Jersey's reptilian hind brain going "New Jersey is not here at the moment. leave a message at the beep" and seeking the most primal affirmation of life there is.

Will Crowning like it? Hell No!
Will he fly off the handle and see it as cheating? Unlikely. He is well read enough to understand it as a one time deal... Jersey's inadequacy issues are also unlikely to phase him overmuch anymore.
Will there be hilarity ensuing? Very Probably Yes.
Not convinced. She has been lusting for Musashi and isn't it convenient that she goes to Musashi of all people to get the sex. And why request sex? why not just just hold me while I sleep.

And we had a member on SB once who was courting a girl who said she wanted to leave sex for later cause she was not ready. Lo and behold, she goes to a party at another city, she couldn't jump on the penis fast enough. She then came back and said she wanted to break up cause he wasn't emotionally mature aka blame the guy . Later she came clean that she regreted her actions but wanted to end the courting between her and the SB guy.

And we are going to make Crowing out of nowhere a saint? Why bother with this arc if all it leads to is a unsatisfying finish. Lame.

Also, cheating doesn't make someone not a hero.
 
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Not really. What's the public gonna say, "MY GOD! The shipgirls are girls! With sex drives!"
The public is going to say "My, these tremendously beautiful girls can potentially be sexed! I wonder if I can stick my dick in it!" Well... except for Japan. But that's because "I wonder if I can stick my dick in it" is Japan's automatic response to anything they don't yet understand.
 
The public is going to say "My, these tremendously beautiful girls can potentially be sexed! I wonder if I can stick my dick in it!" Well... except for Japan. But that's because "I wonder if I can stick my dick in it" is Japan's automatic response to anything they don't yet understand.
Yep.

Also, nobody knows who the hell Crowing is.

The public will be saying after looking at the below: "We totally understand, New Jersey! We totally understand.
 
My take on this is that the US Navy will get into the act. After all, Jersey is a US commissioned officer in the United States Navy. There are standards officers must maintain. This little stunt of hers will have repercussions that they will have to fix and answer for.

While they can not take her out of the frontline, they need all the shipgirls they can get, they can strip her of her rank. Basically give her the rank of toilet scrubber (congrats Solette, you outrank Jersey again). Finally, since she can not seem to operate intelligently by herself out of combat, an escort should be assigned her . Most like one of the cruisers, they seem to be more level headed than a battleship or destroyer, who reports back to the admirals. If Jersey ever get herself out of the doghouse, she might get her rank back, an d allowed to operate solo again.

Yeah, I don't find any of this Jersey/Musashi stuff funny.
 
Not convinced. She has been lusting for Musashi and isn't it convenient that she goes to Musashi of all people to get the sex. And why request sex? why not just just hold me while I sleep.

And we had a member on SB once who was courting a girl who said she wanted to leave sex for later cause she was not ready. Lo and behold, she goes to a party at another city, she couldn't jump on the penis fast enough. She then came back and IIRC tried to blame him for pressuring her and thus said she wanted to break up. Later she came clean that she regreted her actions but wanted to end the courting between her and the SB guy.

He didn't take her back IIRC.

And we are going to make Crowing out of nowhere a saint? Why bother with this arc if all it leads to is a unsatisfying finish. Lame.

Also, cheating doesn't make someone not a hero.
Two things. First I don't see how this is a comparable situation at all. (Based off your summation (not reading linked thread, don't have the time) it seems something like, Girl has tentative boyfriend, girls goes to party, girl gets drunk (inferring) and hops on dick, girl is really bitchy to guy she cuckolded and kinda regrets it. With Jersey in my mind it's more like, Ship Girl with repressed depression and self loathing has maybe kinda possibly boyfriend, Shipgirl is stationed far away from said maybe kinda possibly boyfriend, Shipgirl finds out that her little sister just died in a combat action, Ship girl in a moment of extreme stress and loneliness sleeps with nearest willing person to try and relieve said stress, Shipgirls depression and self loathing intensifies.

Second, "and isn't it convenient that she goes to Musashi of all people to get the sex"...um...yeah, who else would she go to. She's not in her right mind and just wants to get laid so she can forget about her problems for at least a little while, she'd go to the first person she can think of which, Crowning being unavailable, is the person she is most attracted to in the immediate area.

And I never said that Jersey would stop being a hero. But being a good hero doesn't stop someone from being a bad person. And cuckolding someone you legitimately care about back home (if you haven't arranged an open relationship in advance, but that's neither here nor their) would make someone a bad person IMHO.
 
Not convinced. She has been lusting for Musashi and isn't it convenient that she goes to Musashi of all people to get the sex. And why request sex? why not just just hold me while I sleep.

Because hugging doesn't release the chemicals needed to deal with "My ribs feel like they're going to physically rip out of my back" grief? Also, major inadequacy issues... little sister Wisky got knifed in the back but protected her crew; Halsey (on Jersey) got suckered out of position and then sulked while Jersey's escorts were being slaughtered.

Hugging is a fairly high-level intelligent action. Sex... is hardcoded in the DNA.

As for why Musashi... that is a "I will hate myself in the morning, but I need this to survive *until* morning request". Jersey went to her battle buddy because she's the only one who would do it without unnecessary questions.

My take on this is that the US Navy will get into the act. After all, Jersey is a US commissioned officer in the United States Navy. There are standards officers must maintain. This little stunt of hers will have repercussions that they will have to fix and answer for.

What standards? 2 consenting adults without legal significant others and different but allied command environments spent happy fun times together off duty.
 
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Two things. First I don't see how this is a comparable situation at all. (Based off your summation (not reading linked thread, don't have the time) it seems something like, Girl has tentative boyfriend, girls goes to party, girl gets drunk (inferring) and hops on dick, girl is really bitchy to guy she cuckolded and kinda regrets it.

I'm going off memory. That thread is old.

here is the op:
..But I don't think I've felt this pissed in awhile.

Yeah yeah, personal threads are looked down upon and all that, but i was hoping SB could give me some advice.

I've had this girlfriend for a few months, and we get along pretty well. Were pretty close, but haven't really been sexual because she feels like she's not ready. Despite my male-ness and all that I'm perfectly fine with waiting. Not ready? No problem! Good enough philosophy, right?

Today we were talking and something seemed odd. She told me she had done some thinking over the weekend and decided that we better part ways. We'll, that's a tad depressing, but hey everybody has breakups so not that big of a deal. But something seemed off. She wouldn't give me a solid reason why. We talk abit, she says that I just wasn't 'emotionally mature' enough for her. Without going into details SB really doesn't need, I proceeded to point out, with the support of acouple of mutual friends, that this was bullshit, and contradicted everything she had said or done in the past. Another few minutes of questioning, and her admitting it was an excuse, she admits that she had sex with some random guy over the weekend. She had wanted to stay friends, but I couldn't really talk to her. She claimed she ended it because she didn't want to hurt me, and hid it for the same reason.

My reason for posting this, besides hopeful validation for my frothing-at-the-mouth RAGE, is asking if any other SB'ers have been in the same shoes? What have to done to feel better? What did you do about your partner, just drop them out of your life or is it forgiveable?

Thank you for your time, I really should get to bed.

With Jersey in my mind it's more like, Ship Girl with repressed depression and self loathing has maybe kinda possibly boyfriend, Shipgirl is stationed far away from said maybe kinda possibly boyfriend, Shipgirl finds out that her little sister just died in a combat action, Ship girl in a moment of extreme stress and loneliness sleeps with nearest willing person to try and relieve said stress, Shipgirls depression and self loathing intensifies.
My god, these excuses you guys make for her are wtf. So Jersey is no longer jersey but a meat puppet controlled by some inner force.

Second, "and isn't it convenient that she goes to Musashi of all people to get the sex"...um...yeah, who else would she go to. She's not in her right mind and just wants to get laid so she can forget about her problems for at least a little while, she'd go to the first person she can think of which, Crowning being unavailable, is the person she is most attracted to in the immediate area.
Anyone. I'm just saying, its very convenient.

And I never said that Jersey would stop being a hero. But being a good hero doesn't stop someone from being a bad person. And cuckolding someone you legitimately care about back home (if you haven't arranged an open relationship in advance, but that's neither here nor their) would make someone a bad person IMHO.
And?

Because hugging doesn't release the chemicals needed to deal with "My ribs feel like they're going to physically rip out of my back" grief?

Hugging is a fairly high-level intelligent action. Sex... is hardcoded in the DNA.

As for why Musashi... that is a "I will hate myself in the morning, but I need this to survive *until* morning request". Jersey went to her battle buddy because she's the only one who would do it without unnecessary questions.
More of this crazy meat puppet thing.
 
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