Ascensions and Transgressions: the Tales of Keris Dulmeadokht (Exalted game)

Sasi freaking out is reasonable yes, because the Unquestionables would react very poorly to what Keris is saying. But that also doesn't change the fact that Keris is entirely correct in her assessments.
And that's the best thing about Torment and Limit Break, properly done. It doesn't change who you are. It doesn't alter your personality or give you different opinions or knowledge. It looks, to any and all onlookers, like normal behaviour taken to an extreme. Such as Keris's long-running arrogance and personal sense of invincibility and love for her family boiling over into "I will declare myself an Unquestionable to protect my souls and if the Althing demands the right to summon or bind my children I will kill them one by one until they stop asking."

The best kind of Limit Break is the one where you can't even tell, without quite careful debriefing and analysis afterwards, when you slipped into it. And when despite how horrified and sick you feel afterwards, you can't quite pinpoint how any individual action, taken in isolation, was wrong.
 
How badly are things going to turn out for Keris? Because I really don't want her to die from this... The story's excellent, and I really want it to continue...
 
Okay, some more in-depth responses to people because I feel like it.


DULMEA
Also, I love Dulmea's cry of "I can't be a demon lord!", just because I'm hearing it in that stereotypical "But I can't be pregnant" tone.
Also incipient Dulmea freakout which is going to be fantastic, and even better because she'll have to freak out even harder when she starts growing souls when the third charm in the series gets developed.
Dulmea does not deserve this shit, yo. The poor angyalka just wanted to do her duty and knew her proper place and was pretty happy there and everything.

Now she's become first a not-angyalka-anymore, then a mother to a human girl who keeps her near-constantly worried, then a sublimati-thing that can make serfs, and now apparently a demon lord. Whose greater self has gone crazy. And she's also having a panic attack because she can't actually dispute that point about Keris qualifying as an Unquestionable in every way that matters, given that Keris got 14 fucking successes on pointing it out while she was listening.

#DulmeaDeservesaRaise


ECHO
Also Echo XD. So cute and willing to poke fun at her mother.
A Brief Perspective on Summoning Echo
Pros:
  • Very smart.
  • Scarily optimised murderhobo.
  • Can cover enormous distances at great speed.
  • Never needs to rest.
  • Fairly easygoing for a demon lord.
Cons:
  • Is Echo.


KERIS
poor keris

Her Station of Sacrifice really gave her a different perspective on everything. Amusingly, Keris the sort-of-ditzt combat wombat is a far better God-Queen than Nemone Sasimana.
I kind of had it in my head that obviously Keris would pick up 2nd circle Sorcery before THO, because otherwise she'd be able to summon her souls without...actually being able to summon them.
The real fun starts when someone stops to think about the implications of an Infernal's subsouls only being able to freely escape during Calibration.
That "Straight fight would never happen" thing kinda applies both ways.

Because Keris would never fight Ululaya head on either. She'd sneak into her Moon-Palace-Body and super murder Ululaya without ever fighting her dudes.
How badly are things going to turn out for Keris? Because I really don't want her to die from this... The story's excellent, and I really want it to continue...
Oh, Keris. Yes, one of the many things that I work into the narration and description whenever I get the opportunity are these little hints at how Keris really does think of herself as Green Sun Princess now, and that she's left behind the morals and standards and values of her past to a much, much greater extent than people like Sasi or Testolagh, who still cling to who they were even though they can never go back. Keris is very much someone who looks forward (or at least who doesn't look back), and her Sacrifice amplifies that trait even more. As for summoning; come on, @deadcrystal. She learned how to create First Circles before she learned how to summon them, of course she learned how to externalise her own through Pantheon Heresy before she learned to summon them with Sorcery. Though @The Sandman, I should note that the text of the Charm specifies she can summon them at any new moon - it's just that she can summon them once a day at Calibration, so she can get nearly her whole family out over the course of the Althing.

@Nervaqus987, you are correct that Keris could quite probably kill one Unquestionable by using her native HVT-assassination skillset. She might even be able to get two or three like that if she was quick and smart and subtle. But then they will start to catch on, and she finds herself fighting nearly all of the Unquestionable as a single united block, because they Do Not Approve of people permakilling them.

Keris is a very good assassin. She is not that good. I'm not sure it's actually possible for a single person to be that good.

That said, she will almost definitely probably possibly maybe get out of this okay.

... or alive, at the very least.

Hopefully. :V


TORMENT
Given the trigger conditions, and the fact that she just used the Malfean Excellency and failed to convince Sasi, and that Sasi has only just walked out on her, this looks more like the inciting incident to a period of Torment than the torment itself.

I expect it will take a moment for Keris to start really working herself into it.
Is torment actually going to happen here? Infernal limit is pretty easy to bleed off, and even easier for Keris what with her having Coadjutor 5. Guess we'll see.
Ah. Yes. See, what happened here was basically thus: Keris has spent the best part of two months working nearly-flat-out on complex, stressful sorcerous-alchemical theory and design. Much of that has included testing on human subjects, quite a few of whom have died despite her best efforts to save them (thereby pinging her Compassion). She's been under pressure from Orabilis, her second attempt at sending out feelers for information regarding her hometown and parents got her a big fat nothing, and due to the insane pace of the work she's had very little time to sit down and play and bleed Limit through acting like an angyalka.

Then Calibration began. Keris has a paradigmatic tendency to go a bit crazy whenever her soul structure changes in some major way. Lately her reactions to budding new souls have been lessening, partly through exposure and partly because adding one soul to eight or nine is a lot less of an impact than adding one soul to four or five. But as Calibration started, six of her ten souls began to mature into demon lords simultaneously, and one of them literally cut her way out into the real world.

Which led to Keris challenging her once-kid-sister-now-eldest-daughter; ickle wind-waif Echo who follows in her wake and helps her fight and is cute and adorable in how she mimics Keris, to a fight. And getting fucking trounced after throwing her full mortal dicepool at the bout and approaching it with a stunt that was all about overwhelming Echo with sudden power to throw her off-balance and dominating the match completely until she won.

And so here we are. :p


CONGRATULATIONS!
Hi, a by-now long-time follower of this rpg session recordings / story here. I would like to stop just mostly lurking around here to post that even if it was cut a bit short, this was my favorite update so far. I had a grin on my face and chills running up my spine nearly the whole time, and even the cliffhanger didn't manage to foul my mood. Echo was awesomely annoyingly smart, Sasi's quite panic was impactful, and I'm looking forward to (possibly) seeing the hinted epic meltdown in the next update.

Now, if you excuse me, I have to go and try to wrestle with my F5 compulsion. (No, hand. It doesn't make the update come any sooner, no matter how often you keep hitting that button.)
I'm so glad you're enjoying it! I always love hearing what people like and which bits are their favourites. Are there any plot threads or character arcs or running narrative themes that make you grin every time they come up? Things like the Keris-Sasi-Testolagh love triangle, or Haneyl's struggle with her nature hurting people, or the rising tension of Keris getting increasingly attached to Darling Yellow (who is old and frail and may not last much longer)? Do tell, do tell!
 
I just love how the prospect of Calesco in Hell is responded to with "Don't worry, I can banish your souls".

I realize Sasi wasn't talking about Calesco in particular but it's still funny.
 
Mt favorite scene in Kerisgame is the interaction with Salina. I can really see how she hates SWLiHN, and is a lot like her at the same time. Cosmic Transcendence of Compassion much?
 
And that's the best thing about Torment and Limit Break, properly done. It doesn't change who you are. It doesn't alter your personality or give you different opinions or knowledge. It looks, to any and all onlookers, like normal behaviour taken to an extreme. Such as Keris's long-running arrogance and personal sense of invincibility and love for her family boiling over into "I will declare myself an Unquestionable to protect my souls and if the Althing demands the right to summon or bind my children I will kill them one by one until they stop asking."

The best kind of Limit Break is the one where you can't even tell, without quite careful debriefing and analysis afterwards, when you slipped into it. And when despite how horrified and sick you feel afterwards, you can't quite pinpoint how any individual action, taken in isolation, was wrong.
...So, Keris was already in the middle of that meltdown whe she spoke to Sasi? And we were given examples which included this particular one beforehand, to help to spot it? Which still led to most of us seemingly to missing it?

I'm genuinely impressed.
I'm so glad you're enjoying it! I always love hearing what people like and which bits are their favourites. Are there any plot threads or character arcs or running narrative themes that make you grin every time they come up? Things like the Keris-Sasi-Testolagh love triangle, or Haneyl's struggle with her nature hurting people, or the rising tension of Keris getting increasingly attached to Darling Yellow (who is old and frail and may not last much longer)? Do tell, do tell!
I'm especially enjoying two things when they come up: the inner-world interactions (and now outer-world too) of Keris' soul-hierarchy with her greater self, and those with the Demon Lords and Princes. Following that are interactions with Sasi, and Testolagh is nice too even with his somewhat blander and straight heroic character when its combined with the friction caused between his ideals and current situation. I also wait eagerly to see how the whole "Pirate Queen" and Lintha business will go.

On other things, I enjoy Keris teching-up doing various projects to build, modify and invent stuff/people is and how its handled and portrayed, the fact that nobody uses the word "Charm" (one of the better design choices in 3e) and the whole process of "evolving" the powers of the Yozi more "naturally", at least in the case of Keris, etc. The shounen powering up montage has me also quite interested, especially in seeing the ES Oramus Charmset in hands of Keris if you are planning to pick that up, as I was an active quest-player in Alexander's Code Geass / Exalted crossover with a Chosen of Oramus Lelouch.

Actually, I'm not sure if there has been a single part that I have disliked or been bored with. So good work, you two.
 
Dulmea does not deserve this shit, yo. The poor angyalka just wanted to do her duty and knew her proper place and was pretty happy there and everything.

Now she's become first a not-angyalka-anymore, then a mother to a human girl who keeps her near-constantly worried, then a sublimati-thing that can make serfs, and now apparently a demon lord. Whose greater self has gone crazy. And she's also having a panic attack because she can't actually dispute that point about Keris qualifying as an Unquestionable in every way that matters, given that Keris got 14 fucking successes on pointing it out while she was listening.

#DulmeaDeservesaRaise

She does deserve a raise.

Unfortunately, it's not like you can pay her more. Money's fairly worthless to someone who can create whatever she pleases out of nothing.

Hmm......what to do, what to do?

Oh, I know, you can raise her from a demon lord into an Unquestionable!

Phenomenal Cosmic Power makes everyone happy, right?
 
Scarily optimised murderhobo.

Echo objects with a sulky face when she's described as a murderhobo. True, she might not have a place of permanent residence and she might murder people, but does that really make her a murderhobo?

Calesco: "Yes."

Echo pulls a sad face because her little sister is bullying her.

Calesco: "You can talk right now. Why are you miming?"

Echo: "To annoy you. : 3"

Calesco: "Colon three?"

Echo: ": 3"
 
Got to wonder how the Unquestionable will react to Keris' souls in general terms. Meaning aside from the whole Demon Lord thing. Rathan is simplest I think, being a Red Moon and not really anything else, so easy to understand, and he'd probably make a good impression. Haneyl, Vali and Zanara all have mixed essence natures which would I think weird them out some, curious to see how that's taken. Echo and Calesco...well uh, kind of an issue there. In that they'd be pretty easily recognised (jade teeth and essence) as Adorjan's children, and uh. Keris kind of already has an unfortunate reputation for being too closely involved with Adorjan. Ligier technically already knew about Echo being sort of Keris's Silence in Her Wake already, but there's a difference between knowing something and being confronted with it.

A Brief Perspective on Summoning Echo
Pros:
  • Very smart.
  • Scarily optimised murderhobo.
  • Can cover enormous distances at great speed.
  • Never needs to rest.
  • Fairly easygoing for a demon lord.
  • Is Echo
Cons:
  • None whatsoever.

Fixed.

Oh, Keris. Yes, one of the many things that I work into the narration and description whenever I get the opportunity are these little hints at how Keris really does think of herself as Green Sun Princess now, and that she's left behind the morals and standards and values of her past to a much, much greater extent than people like Sasi or Testolagh, who still cling to who they were even though they can never go back. Keris is very much someone who looks forward (or at least who doesn't look back), and her Sacrifice amplifies that trait even more. As for summoning; come on, @deadcrystal. She learned how to create First Circles before she learned how to summon them, of course she learned how to externalise her own through Pantheon Heresy before she learned to summon them with Sorcery. Though @The Sandman, I should note that the text of the Charm specifies she can summon them at any new moon - it's just that she can summon them once a day at Calibration, so she can get nearly her whole family out over the course of the Althing.

@Nervaqus987, you are correct that Keris could quite probably kill one Unquestionable by using her native HVT-assassination skillset. She might even be able to get two or three like that if she was quick and smart and subtle. But then they will start to catch on, and she finds herself fighting nearly all of the Unquestionable as a single united block, because they Do Not Approve of people permakilling them.

Keris is a very good assassin. She is not that good. I'm not sure it's actually possible for a single person to be that good.

That said, she will almost definitely probably possibly maybe get out of this okay.

... or alive, at the very least.

Hopefully. :V

What's the timeline looking like here? We're right at the start of Calibration, which lasts...not sure, five days? Althing is, I think, only after Calibration has ended? So even if we have the long five day Torment I think it'll be done before the Althing meeting. Suffering Torment during that would be diasterous. More than Torment whilst in Malfeas and around the Unquestionable already is I mean. Oh yeah, just remembered, wonder what'll be going on with Calesco? Keris was hypothesising she might turn human during Calibration allowing people to see her without being hurt by their moral failures. That's another thing.
 
Well there's also that, yes.

I don't know, is it too much to hope there's some secret cabal of goth demons somewhere under the Ebon Dragon's shadow who could take little babybat Calesco under their wings? It is, isn't it.

The issue with this plan is that it requires Calesco to refrain from her own nature of speaking truth to power.
 
I will laugh so hard if everyone just goes along with Keris' 'plan.' Almost as hard as I'll laugh if Keris ends up booking it ahead of an army of angry Unquestionable.
 
Keris's plan if handled skillfully isn't super risky.

At this point Keris has indications that various 3CD are going 'You've got the proper 7 subsouls, awesome' including Liger.

Infernals, especically with ES home brew, are in the spot of ranging from newborn 2CD to eventually Fetish souls. Honestly I could see Liger using Keris to push an agenda of formally sorting out Infernals ranks.

Eg until an Infernal establishes a proper 7 2CD soul structure their rank as a peer is somewhat lessened. A proper fully grown soul structure is a sign that an Infernal has achieved their rank as a Duke of Hell.

Honestly though I'm pulling for Keris rolling a 10 on her Mentor 1 roll at the All Thing. Purely for the lulz of Echos other mother showing up and going 'My Babys So Cute!'
 
...So, Keris was already in the middle of that meltdown whe she spoke to Sasi? And we were given examples which included this particular one beforehand, to help to spot it? Which still led to most of us seemingly to missing it?

I'm genuinely impressed.

Well, I think a big contributor is that much of our reaction can be summed up by the following exchange.

Keris: "I'm going to declare myself a god!"
Basically everyone reading: *nods* "This is a perfectly natural and acceptable response to the situation."
 
Well, in hell the laws of Cecelyne are paramount, so this is basically guarantied to begin and end with a giant fight. The only real question is how many demons are going to need to die before she gets the recognition she wants.
 
Keris's plan if handled skillfully isn't super risky.

At this point Keris has indications that various 3CD are going 'You've got the proper 7 subsouls, awesome' including Liger.

I'm not sure where on earth you're getting that from.

The Infernals exist to be the demon princes' servants and hands in Creation. Their "job" is to be loyal servants who go out and fulfil the orders of the demon princes. They are peers of hell, and that means they are, most decidedly, below the demon princes. They're well-treated, bribed, indulged servants - but still servants.

An Infernal who declares themselves to be Unquestionable, and equal to the demon princes is a major problem, because they're no longer a servant. They're now a rival.

(Not to mention, a bunch of filthy monkeys declaring themselves to be equal to the princes of Hell may well trigger the PTSD of a bunch of demon princes who have no small amount of pent up issues vis a vis "getting trapped in Hell by jumped up monkeys")

A Brief Perspective on Summoning Echo
Pros:
  • Very smart.
  • Scarily optimised murderhobo.
  • Can cover enormous distances at great speed.
  • Never needs to rest.
  • Fairly easygoing for a demon lord.
Cons:
  • Is Echo.

Amusingly, one of the critical flaws of trying to bind Echo, even if it was possible, is that due to her ADHD and how distractible she is - and how one of the hardest things she's ever done was managing to stay angry at Keris for nearly a whole month - she would try to fulfil your orders in good faith.

And then forget what your orders were. And then either keep on having to run back to you to ask for reminders, or continue her best trying to fulfil what she thinks your orders were after trying to reverse-engineer what you asked her to do from what you've already done.

(This is probably not going to succeed, and will result in her doing things totally unrelated to your orders, and possibly directly opposed to them. That is why a demon lord with a short attention span is not very useful for tasks that rely on her working away from you.)
 
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Though some poor sorcerer dealing with the aftermath of Echo's increasingly divergent plans kind of amuses me. Being summoned with a fairly simple 'protect this store-room', and soo how far the plan can get as Echo gets distracted, and then reverse engineers what she thinks she was doing.

What are the end results?
I imagine they go from
Twilight-flavoured "Oh god, what IS that and why is it in my store room?...and what happened to my priceless documents/artefacts?" (Demon brewer Echo).

to Octavian flavoured, "You are now the Sorcerer-king, and have declared independence from the Realm after Echo killed the nobility...have fun with that when the Realm comes to ask what happened to all their dudes."
 
Hence why I imagine that Echo invents a new form of 1st circle demons whose purpose is to pick up the store room and carry it, as she goes wandering off. The storeroom remains undamaged/undisturbed, and Echo can go explore.

...the fact that the Sorcerer now has no idea where his stuff is, well that's not ECHO's problem is it?
 
Though some poor sorcerer dealing with the aftermath of Echo's increasingly divergent plans kind of amuses me. Being summoned with a fairly simple 'protect this store-room', and soo how far the plan can get as Echo gets distracted, and then reverse engineers what she thinks she was doing.

What are the end results?
I imagine they go from
Twilight-flavoured "Oh god, what IS that and why is it in my store room?...and what happened to my priceless documents/artefacts?" (Demon brewer Echo).

to Octavian flavoured, "You are now the Sorcerer-king, and have declared independence from the Realm after Echo killed the nobility...have fun with that when the Realm comes to ask what happened to all their dudes."

To a certain extent, Echo is Keris stripped of everything that keeps her focussed, like Revenge, Love, Greed, Artistry, a hatred of being chained and... uh, Dulmea nagging her to go do her damn job already.

So, yeah. Keris might be a ditz sometimes, but Echo is a brilliant, genius ditz whose perception of time depends on how fast she's moving so if she can't run she finds time draaaaaaaaaaaags.
 
Vali's Limit gain condition may well be "being bound or chained in any way", so yes.

No, you can't get away with that.

Confinement is also a fundamental part of Vali. He expresses that Keris can't escape being chained by things and she'll never be entirely free, because she keeps on finding new things to confine herself with. Vali is not Noh, for whom confinement is literally something she considers to be worse than death. He can tolerate it, albeit shounen-style where he's spending the time powering up and building up volcanic pressure and getting denser and denser and more powerful before he explodes out.

It's more likely he has a Panopoly Charm that means once a month or once a season or something, he can force a reroll of the binding roll - and each time he rolls again, he's got more and more dice to resist the binding. You have to be lucky every single time - he just has to be lucky once. But this comes at the cost that he's fairly easy to bind to start with, so he's useful for short-duration bindings as he has problems contesting them.
 
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