An Extra Primarch

Should the Quest switch to a Narrative Base?

  • Yes, it will streamline things.

    Votes: 345 40.6%
  • No, I prefer the current system.

    Votes: 127 14.9%
  • Yes, but not until the Crusade begins/Prologue ends.

    Votes: 378 44.5%

  • Total voters
    850
nah, just know that in the one I remember off the top of my head the person considered this a 'god awful quest with a mary sue character'. I feel insulted for ilbgar, even if he does not. This is a amazing quest hands down.
...Were a Primarch were designed to be the mary sue if were raised in any way resembling a normal human child (Or get a really luck sin roll). On top of that all the Primarchs grow exponentially so I don't see what legs this guy even has to stand on at this point I mean by his own logic he must hate all the Primarchs if he hates Serras and the quest for the reasons provided.
 
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...Were a Primarch were designed to be the mary sue if were raised in any way resembling a normal human child (Or get a really luck sin roll). On top of that all the Primarchs grow exponentially so I don't see what legs this guy even has to stand on at this point I mean by his own logic he must hate all the Primarchs if he hates Serras and the quest for the reasons provided.
IKR? I even responded in that vein by reminding him on Angron's anti eldar feat right out of his pod
 
IKR? I even responded in that vein by reminding him on Angron's anti eldar feat right out of his pod
Angron isn't that bad, it gets better when you realize Magnus could pull a planetary scale timestop, and hold a conversation while doing so
Curze right out of his pod butt ass naked survived the Underhive of a Hive city and then went on to solo an entire Hive planet well he was still a kid! Primarchs are the living embodiment of bullshit not one person can say differently!
 
IKR? I even responded in that vein by reminding him on Angron's anti eldar feat right out of his pod
Had they forgotten that Primarchs are demigods? Demigods tend to pull off feats like this. Hercules beat up snakes when he was a literal baby, and he was a hybrid of a human mother and Zeus. I don't see them complaining about that.
 
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Curze right out of his pod butt ass naked survived the Underhive of a Hive city and then went on to solo an entire Hive planet well he was still a kid! Primarchs are the living embodiment of bullshit not one person can say differently!
Had they forgotten that Primarchs are demigods? Demigods tend to pull off feats like this. Hercules beat up snakes when he was a literal baby, and he was a hybrid of a human mother and Zeus. I don't see them complaining about that.
Which is why it makes me want to rip my hair out whenever someone says primarchs are damn gary sues (mary sues if female) if doing really well in quests saying they are too OP or growing too powerful too rapidly or some shit. That was what they were DESIGNED to do because they NEEEDED to be that bullshit and even then they mostly failed.
 
I'd call them a success there actually. They turned on each other which is a failure in control(the problem with building thinking weapons) but if not for chaos they probably could have conquered the galaxy.
oh yes they were a successful creation true, but I meant ultimately they still failed to achieve the desired end result.

edit: which really highlights how shitty the 40K galaxy is when 20 goddamn gary stues and a gary stu maker failed to fix things.
 
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They are just jealous because we found awesome ways to make serras even more awesome, not to mention crit rolled at the beginning as well as getting good parents!!!

This is 40k...if I was running this quest and people bitched I would flat out tell them you want to try it as a normal every day human? Your welcome to try...


Okay your a guardsmen -60 maleus to all rolls.

Good luck surviving.
 
@tri2 The people would have a leg to stand on, if and only if crystals were the main focus or part of the main focus, but their not, not really.

Serras made mind blowing inventions, and leaps of power, before crystals even came into the picture.

Also their not even recognizable from, or even used like this in Kingdom Hearts, at most their used as ingredients in synthesis

As for the gummi block, we never even used them or researched them at all, so wtf.

I would think star trek would get more flank from the technology, we got, or do they just ignore that its a large basis for what we do for resources, geeze.

As for the keyblade thing we kinda still need at least one, do to Mal, even then its just going to be a tool/weapon to use, not a major focus of the quest.

Its not like its going to be used, much outside fighting and locking planets keyholes.
 
actually the gummi blocks were used to create the booster crystals after we researched them
I think that's proof enough that we managed to convert Kingdom Hearts material into something that the random passerby wouldn't be able to recognize. We don't have gummi ships, Disney Characters or even that much Darkness. The Heartless were a one off thing so many turns ago I hardly can imagine anyone still being mad.
 
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Nope, the keyhole was shown when that world was taken over, doesn't mean it will be as fast, he stopped delving deep into darkness. so his progress slowed.

But he more than likely make can make artificial heartless, he just does so sparingly, and just uses his hybrid Daemons for everything else.

After all it only takes one, and only one heartless to reproduce a swarm of them.
 
Forging Mythril (Canon) (+10 to roll of your choice)
Immaterial Bonding

"Once more class", droned Maeris, Bonesinger of the Quenya Craftworld. "We can rest afterwards." Maeris was feeling the exhaustion of creating psychoreactive materials. Creating meaningful amounts of Wraithbone was of little effort for someone as experienced as herself. Creating Mythril in tune with eleven other humans was another matter entirely.
The students themselves were of various states of fatigue. Some panted slightly while others around them were drenched with sweat from extended usage of their powers. A few were still energetic enough to gossip and converse, almost as if they hadn't spend the past hour forming Orichalcix.

The Eldar sung, and the Choir followed soon after. Their voices hovered, rose and fell and finally joined as one harmonious song. From voices of the humans psykers, the deep purple crystal, Orichacix, the symbol of humanity made manifest swirled like ink and sparkled under the ceiling lights. Maeris in turn rose her voice and formed giant stones of Wraithbone, her people's signature medium. The two psychoactive substances circled past each other in lazy arcs, slowly coalescing and melting into one another. The singular mass slowly lost the dark sheen of Orichalcix and the smooth texture of Wraithbone, becoming gray in texture.

Then the singular mass cracked. A hairline fracture appeared between the mass of Orichalcix and Wraithbone that had yet to fuse turned into a gaping maw that widened like a mocking grin. The mass split in two and like a distant memory, disappeared without a trace.

"A momentary rest if you may." Stated Maeris. "Another failure?" She uttered in the most hidden parts of her mind.

Maeris and her class were one of many others in trade schools throughout the Bastion. Serras Salnus, the de facto leader of the Bastion's hundreds of worlds had, in one of her many policies carried out by her subordinates, the practice of multiple psykers working in unison. These groups of psykers, called choirs would be able to accomplish tasks that a single psyker alone wouldn't be able to accomplish. From expanding and refining communication arrays to foreign worlds to mass producing Concept Crystals and Runes, the Choirs quickly became an integral part of the Bastion and further cemented the psykers' place in society.

However, the act of working alongside other psykers as one is no easy task. Factors such as personality and differing strengths of individual psykers can imbalance the group's collective power and cause the group to falter. This is even more true when it comes to the construction of psyker material such as Mythril. Mythril, for all the value the silvery, strong as steel, rapid regeneration properties the alloy has, is difficult to assemble. In order to consistently produce a high quality quantity of Mythril, an Eldar Bonesinger has to act as a lead for the Choir. The two create their needed ratios of their respective matters, then fuse them to create the alloy.

Maeris made good efforts to hide her frustrations. Her Choir has had difficulty synching with her voice and only managed to produce scant amount of misshapen lumps of Orichalcix and Wraithbone, quick to shatter and quicker to disappear. "What has caused my students to falter so?" She pondered. Despite looking so different from each other, well as much as one as versed as herself can tell, they all got along. The elderly dark skinned woman was happy to be around the relatively young blond girl, and the two adolescents she remembered as brothers were professional enough to keep their bickering outside of her circle. Even the ones that held some level of resentment over having to take this training over their typical civilian lives at least felt some form of contentment amongst peers.

She even made sure to go over everyone's problems individually, doing her best as a leader to ensure that everyone would be able to perform at their best when the time is needed. "What else is there?" Maeris wondered "What subject darkens their minds? I am versed in my craft, they in theirs. We spent enough cycles to understand one another, and still they cannot bear fruit? My pride will not allow this to stand." Maeris paused. "Or is it exactly my pride that is the problem? Could it be that my centuries of experience blinded me of their limits, and they simply wish not to speak up in fear of me? If this is so, I must remedy this immediately."

Maeris refocused her efforts on the students, and began the process again. "Once more we shall practice molding the realities to craft the bond that has formed between our kind. Once more we shall continue. Do not worry, even if we shall fail here, as long as we are willing, we shall succeed with grace and dignity. Now if you may, we shall begin."
The students were apprehensive, but willing. Once again they sang as one, two sides from two different worlds, mixing their beliefs from the veils of unreality into the material into one single entity. The mass this time was small, much smaller than their previous attempts, only the size of a marble. The room was staring in anticipation and horror, wondering how long it will take for this attempt to end as another failure.

"Do not stray from the task at hand" stated Maeris telepathically. The students believing in their teacher did as told and redoubled their efforts. The mass, now Mythril was a silvery gray and glowed slightly and contained an air of dignity. When the form was finally realized, the students stopped singing, falling to their knees from the strain. Their teacher however, didn't look the least bit tired and examined the small sphere of Mythril in her hands. Upon further examination the Mythril wasn't perfect, there were microcrystals of Orichalcix and stretches of Wraithbone like a barren plain. But it was Mythril nonetheless.

The students looked on the teacher with agonizing anticipation, and Maeris smiled.
"Congratulations. You all have successfully created your first piece of Mythril. You are all dismissed. I look forward to your efforts next time, fellow peers."

AN: Comments? Questions? Please be gentle.

EDIT: I'm canon? I'm canon! Oh yess, validation...
 
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Nope, the keyhole was shown when that world was taken over, doesn't mean it will be as fast, he stopped delving deep into darkness. so his progress slowed.

But he more than likely make can make artificial heartless, he just does so sparingly, and just uses his hybrid Daemons for everything else.

After all it only takes one, and only one heartless to reproduce a swarm of them.

Malal can create artificial Heartless, yes. Daemon Princes, possessing Hearts that are extremely Dark, like regular Daemons, and not crippled by being incomplete, would be most effective for such. Of course, Emblem Heartless are easier to control, but at the level of world-swallowing horde that makes less of a difference, so Malal is mostly using Daemons with many of the Heartless' characteristics, but otherwise very similar to the usual Daemon, a shard of himself mixed with traces of pure Darkness.

These Daemons tend to nihilistic, harder to perma-kill than even regular Daemons, and, almost paradoxically, suicidally brave, due to not really caring if they die. They can corrupt enemy Daemons or other beings, but the process is slower than with Heartless.
 
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