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An Extra Primarch
- Thread starter ilbgar123
- Start date
- Location
- USA
Going to have to catch up, I will try to get the spreadsheets updated over this weekend.
The Bird
tEM IS GUD...RITER!
- Location
- In that den of villains and scum, OKLAHOMA
[ ] Plan Prep For Onslaught
Major Actions (14 + 1[skill all 100] + 3[eduAdv all 50] = x18)
[ ] [Major Action] Cleansing Thernus of Orks (x1)
[ ] [Major Action] Looking for space hulks (x3)
[ ] [Major Action] Stellar Bellows (x4)
[ ] [Major Action] [SL] Magnus the Red (x2)
[ ] [Major Action] [SL] Celestine Salnus (x1)
[ ] [Major Action] Webway Patrol. (x7)
(+18 actions) +10
Minor Actions (21 + 10[skill all 100] + 3[eduAdv all 50] = x34)
[ ] [Minor Action] [SL] Roger Cazanus (x1)
[ ] [Minor Action] [SL] Isker Vagahen (x1)
[ ] [Minor Action] [SL] Captain Matt (x1)
[ ] [Minor Action] [SL] Meera Yerala (x2)
[ ] [Minor Action] [Train Skills] Combat: Ranged (x2)
[ ] [Minor Action] [Train Skills] Combat: Stealth (x3)
[ ] [Minor Action] [Train Skills] Evasion: Lying (x2)
[ ] [Minor Action] [Train Skills] Evasion: Dodging (x2)
[ ] [Minor Action] [Train Skills] Evasion: Trickery (x2)
[ ] [Minor Action] [Train Skills] Perception: Objects (x4)
[ ] [Minor Action] [Train Skills] Electronics: Security (x3)
[ ] [Minor Action] [Train Skills] Electronics: Wiring (x2)
[ ] [Minor Action] [Train Skills] Electronics: Programming (x3)
[ ] [Minor Action] [Train Skills] Explosives: General (x2)
[ ] [Minor Action] [Train Skills] Explosives: Extravagant (x2)
[ ] [Minor Action] [Train Skills] Explosives: Preparation (x2)
(+34 actions)
Free Booster Action
[ ] [Crystal] Free Booster on Control
Integration Actions (20[govDep] + 20[policy] = x40)
[ ] [Integration] Sound Policies (x10)
[ ] [Integration] Improve Inter-species relations. (x10)
[ ] [Integration] Diplomacy (x20)
Survey Actions (10[govDep] + 10[policy] + 10[ship surplus] = x30)
[ ] [Survey] Survey local Sector from the Edge of Bastion space outward, searching for friendly polities and hostile threats. (x22)
[ ] [Survey] Survey interior Bastion space for potential archeotech dig sites. (x8)
Invention Actions (x50)
[ ] [Invention] Improve Rune of Self (x12)
[ ] [Invention] Better Personal Workshop (x26)
[ ] [Invention] Improve Crystal Tiers/Runic Language 1 (x1)
- [ ] [Advance] Communication (for expansion)
- [ ] [Advance] Navigation (for expansion)
- [ ] [Advance] Organization (for expansion)
- [ ] [Advance] Order (Balance out Purity)
- [ ] [Advance] Balance (for better talisman stability)
[ ] [Invention] Improve ship scale weapons
[ ] [Invention] Study ork biology (X2)
[ ] [Invention] Improve ship design
[ ] [Invention] Defense Platforms (x2)
[ ] [Invention] Psychic Robot Improvement (x3)
[ ] [Invention] Soulstone Improvement (X2)
Basically Tri2's plan, but with more invention actions dedicated to improving our naval tech as well as a bit of Psy-Robot improvement, including upgrading the soulstones. Reason being that psy-robots can more easily take advantage of our teleport tech to headcap ork leaders. For normal forces it'd be a suicide mission, for them though if they get destroyed so long as the soulstone survives we can pop it into another chassis. As such developing them is fairly high priority.
Major Actions (14 + 1[skill all 100] + 3[eduAdv all 50] = x18)
[ ] [Major Action] Cleansing Thernus of Orks (x1)
[ ] [Major Action] Looking for space hulks (x3)
[ ] [Major Action] Stellar Bellows (x4)
[ ] [Major Action] [SL] Magnus the Red (x2)
[ ] [Major Action] [SL] Celestine Salnus (x1)
[ ] [Major Action] Webway Patrol. (x7)
(+18 actions) +10
Minor Actions (21 + 10[skill all 100] + 3[eduAdv all 50] = x34)
[ ] [Minor Action] [SL] Roger Cazanus (x1)
[ ] [Minor Action] [SL] Isker Vagahen (x1)
[ ] [Minor Action] [SL] Captain Matt (x1)
[ ] [Minor Action] [SL] Meera Yerala (x2)
[ ] [Minor Action] [Train Skills] Combat: Ranged (x2)
[ ] [Minor Action] [Train Skills] Combat: Stealth (x3)
[ ] [Minor Action] [Train Skills] Evasion: Lying (x2)
[ ] [Minor Action] [Train Skills] Evasion: Dodging (x2)
[ ] [Minor Action] [Train Skills] Evasion: Trickery (x2)
[ ] [Minor Action] [Train Skills] Perception: Objects (x4)
[ ] [Minor Action] [Train Skills] Electronics: Security (x3)
[ ] [Minor Action] [Train Skills] Electronics: Wiring (x2)
[ ] [Minor Action] [Train Skills] Electronics: Programming (x3)
[ ] [Minor Action] [Train Skills] Explosives: General (x2)
[ ] [Minor Action] [Train Skills] Explosives: Extravagant (x2)
[ ] [Minor Action] [Train Skills] Explosives: Preparation (x2)
(+34 actions)
Free Booster Action
[ ] [Crystal] Free Booster on Control
Integration Actions (20[govDep] + 20[policy] = x40)
[ ] [Integration] Sound Policies (x10)
[ ] [Integration] Improve Inter-species relations. (x10)
[ ] [Integration] Diplomacy (x20)
Survey Actions (10[govDep] + 10[policy] + 10[ship surplus] = x30)
[ ] [Survey] Survey local Sector from the Edge of Bastion space outward, searching for friendly polities and hostile threats. (x22)
[ ] [Survey] Survey interior Bastion space for potential archeotech dig sites. (x8)
Invention Actions (x50)
[ ] [Invention] Improve Rune of Self (x12)
[ ] [Invention] Better Personal Workshop (x26)
[ ] [Invention] Improve Crystal Tiers/Runic Language 1 (x1)
- [ ] [Advance] Communication (for expansion)
- [ ] [Advance] Navigation (for expansion)
- [ ] [Advance] Organization (for expansion)
- [ ] [Advance] Order (Balance out Purity)
- [ ] [Advance] Balance (for better talisman stability)
[ ] [Invention] Improve ship scale weapons
[ ] [Invention] Study ork biology (X2)
[ ] [Invention] Improve ship design
[ ] [Invention] Defense Platforms (x2)
[ ] [Invention] Psychic Robot Improvement (x3)
[ ] [Invention] Soulstone Improvement (X2)
Basically Tri2's plan, but with more invention actions dedicated to improving our naval tech as well as a bit of Psy-Robot improvement, including upgrading the soulstones. Reason being that psy-robots can more easily take advantage of our teleport tech to headcap ork leaders. For normal forces it'd be a suicide mission, for them though if they get destroyed so long as the soulstone survives we can pop it into another chassis. As such developing them is fairly high priority.
I have no idea how the rune of self check bonus works to be honest.
The workshop calc:
Combined Score Check: Invention: Extravagance+Luxury: 210+ Forging: Gear: 200+ Education: General+Advanced: 390+ 13075(Invention bonuses)+ 5745(Forging bonuses)+ 8375(Education bonuses)+3500(Eldar SL)=31495
500000-18020= 481,980
481,980/31495 = 15.3
This assumes that the +1000 workshop can't be applied to itself. If it can then I believe it's 14.8 actions.
Feel free to re-check the calc, I'm doing this on my phone.
The workshop calc:
Combined Score Check: Invention: Extravagance+Luxury: 210+ Forging: Gear: 200+ Education: General+Advanced: 390+ 13075(Invention bonuses)+ 5745(Forging bonuses)+ 8375(Education bonuses)+3500(Eldar SL)=31495
500000-18020= 481,980
481,980/31495 = 15.3
This assumes that the +1000 workshop can't be applied to itself. If it can then I believe it's 14.8 actions.
Feel free to re-check the calc, I'm doing this on my phone.
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- Location
- U.S.
ok updated plan reduced workshop actions from 26 to 16 with new bonus
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- Location
- Oregon
Well the reason we would get those perks is cause they stack together. so you wouldn't just get 1400 to the psyker check and then trade it in for 1600 psyker check. Instead both would get you a combined 3000 to all psyker checks.
So really we should go for all of them cause of the insane stacking for all skill checks.
once we get Advanced Melee we would probably be seeing the first perk be +1000 to all combat checks and so on and so forth.
We have close to 20k combat checks with our armor and Psyker power alone and though those 9 perks needed for advance combat makes me bleed something fierce I would not mind getting 30k in combat checks which i believe puts us in position to be the strongest primarch.
we know a phoenix lord has around 25-30k in combat checks and earlier on it was mentioned one of them pushed back an entire Hive fleet
single-handedly?(whether with that means his own force or solo it didn't say)
tldr: stacks on stacks on stacks
The Bird
tEM IS GUD...RITER!
- Location
- In that den of villains and scum, OKLAHOMA
I'd strongly recomend shaving an action or two off of studying Ork Bio and using it to improve our psychic robots, for the reasons I mentioned above. We want to get them military grade and fast.
- Location
- United states
The psyker ones too considering that they give tons of bonuses including future sight, invention and making killing daemons way easier than it already is.
- Location
- U.S.
The Bird
tEM IS GUD...RITER!
- Location
- In that den of villains and scum, OKLAHOMA
Perfect, you've got my vote. Next turn we should work on improving our long range teleportation tech to take better advantage, but as is this should serve as a MASSIVE force multiplier.
(Though I would like at least one action spent on defense platforms, but eh, thats honestly just a matter of preference.)
You should take 5 off workshop to bring it to 16, and spread those actions over psyker choir and colony ships.
Psyker choir to contact our brothers and find space hulks. Colony ships because our growth is nearly exponential now, we'll need them now more than ever.
Also why don't we contact our brothers, they need to know about the waaghs, and the importance of empire building.
Shinr
Lurking since December '98
Kinda surprised that Daddy E is still stuck on Terra and the Thunder Warriors are still relevant.
I was under the impression that the Primarchs were made after he got in contact with AdMech and got stuff from them to set up his Super Secret Primarch Moon Lab.
I was under the impression that the Primarchs were made after he got in contact with AdMech and got stuff from them to set up his Super Secret Primarch Moon Lab.
- Location
- U.S.
@ilbgar123 I forgot but is improving these a research action or a minor/major action?
item/wargear said:
The Bird
tEM IS GUD...RITER!
- Location
- In that den of villains and scum, OKLAHOMA
[X] Plan Foundations for Maximum Research
Anyways, my vote. So far this plan is pretty optimal for our purpose, what being 'develop our shit so that we can wreck the orks when they attack'. Next turn I'd advise developing space habitats, as well as actual defense platforms, for the sole purpose of turning our systems into absolute FORTRESSES.
Anyways, my vote. So far this plan is pretty optimal for our purpose, what being 'develop our shit so that we can wreck the orks when they attack'. Next turn I'd advise developing space habitats, as well as actual defense platforms, for the sole purpose of turning our systems into absolute FORTRESSES.
- Location
- U.S.
done and thanks
- Location
- Anchorage, Alaska
alright I get it, lets just get this plan on the go now.
[X] Plan Foundations for Maximum Research
you guys are still amazing at this so far, hopefully this works out soon enough!
edit: just finished a couple of skirmish maps of BFG (battle fleet gothic), the biggest thing is we need to make sure our ships and platforms can handle the orc threat, also we need to warn whatever brother we can find and father about the orc threat, and its severity...as well as empire making as someone said up above, this could be when we get our divination choir as well as some physic mojo-bullshit up and running, allowing us to hopefully get the crusade up and running, as well as getting things moving along.
additionally I have a question, what about our lighthouses? can they be further upgraded to help out scout the orc threat? maybe as a early warning beacon across our worlds like a spider web?
[X] Plan Foundations for Maximum Research
you guys are still amazing at this so far, hopefully this works out soon enough!
edit: just finished a couple of skirmish maps of BFG (battle fleet gothic), the biggest thing is we need to make sure our ships and platforms can handle the orc threat, also we need to warn whatever brother we can find and father about the orc threat, and its severity...as well as empire making as someone said up above, this could be when we get our divination choir as well as some physic mojo-bullshit up and running, allowing us to hopefully get the crusade up and running, as well as getting things moving along.
additionally I have a question, what about our lighthouses? can they be further upgraded to help out scout the orc threat? maybe as a early warning beacon across our worlds like a spider web?
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Shouldn't stellar bellows have a full 5 actions put into it though? If not at least make it only 3 actions so it doesn't waste a major action for no actual effect...
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- U.S.
alright guys final edit for tonight, gotta sleep now, be back in like 9-10 hours? night!
[X] Plan Foundations for Maximum Research
The Bird
tEM IS GUD...RITER!
- Location
- In that den of villains and scum, OKLAHOMA
Also, we should probably pick this perk up as well, because if it can improve our workshop over its normal maximum it'd be amazing.
Dauan Tienar
To the endless horizon
- Location
- Victoria
[X] Plan Foundations for Maximum Research
The Bird
tEM IS GUD...RITER!
- Location
- In that den of villains and scum, OKLAHOMA
Probably. Deffo something to try for next turn, at least. Plus, Warp Lighthouse improvements would absolutely jive with my idea for turning our systems into absolute fortresses.