Age of Strife
SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
Presuming an optimal set of attempts towards getting Anna the Serene trait which requires a total of a 100 from dice + modifiers.
Then with Humble and Patient Anna will be on 12 will power and have a 24 will power bonus to her roll. If we wait until the last turn before she gains her education trait to attempt to give her Serene she would then have a 22% chance of gaining it. Not very likely.
There aren't any other major ways to stack the dice in her favour either. Now If Dia was to try and gain Serene right now she would have a 38 % chance presuming the same mechanic was used. I wonder if she shouldn't try and do so?
Then with Humble and Patient Anna will be on 12 will power and have a 24 will power bonus to her roll. If we wait until the last turn before she gains her education trait to attempt to give her Serene she would then have a 22% chance of gaining it. Not very likely.
There aren't any other major ways to stack the dice in her favour either. Now If Dia was to try and gain Serene right now she would have a 38 % chance presuming the same mechanic was used. I wonder if she shouldn't try and do so?
Thinking of trait combinations, if we try to get Mirande Humble, we probably want her to have Ambitious as well.
I also wonder if there are other synergy traits available between the Virtues. It's a shame we didn't go after Chaste for the girls. Otherwise we could have tried to get her all the Virtues and seen if their was a Moral Paragon trait available.
I also wonder if there are other synergy traits available between the Virtues. It's a shame we didn't go after Chaste for the girls. Otherwise we could have tried to get her all the Virtues and seen if their was a Moral Paragon trait available.
SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
We lack the ability to impart three of the virtues needed to even try and persue that option. As we can't impart charitable or Temperate and until the previous turn we couldn't do Humble either.
I think Humble and Ambitious are good traits to pair up as humble cancels out part of the negative effects of ambitious.
Also Mirande vs Dia comparison.
Dia Stone
No Education / Misguided Warrior / Tough Soldier / Skilled Tactician / Brilliant Strategist
Attributes
Diplomacy 15/15/15/15/15
Martial 16/17/19/22/25
Stewardship 11/11/11/12/13
Intrigue 10/10/10/11/12
Learning 15/14/14/14/14
Willpower 17/17/18/19/20
Traits
Brilliant Strategist
Ambitious
Kind
Patient
Diligent
Scarred
Game Master
Lustful
Eldar Index (+3 Learning, +15 Diplo Rolls w/ Eldar +5 Combat rolls Vs Eldar)
Brave
Manoeuvre Leader (+10% Manoeuvre Actions in Combat)
Humble
This puts Dia at 84 stat points two above Mirande although Mirande still has a further 8 stat gain from Ambitious and any other possible traits.
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He's not going to bring it up if you don't.
Oh yes, and one other thing: starting next year the girls will be old enough that they can start performing their own personal actions. You can choose for them or let them pursue their own interests.
How'd we do that? Diplomatic or Personal (hopefully diplomatic; our Personal Actions are already booked out as hell...)?
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Diplomatic Action.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Quick question @Academia Nut.
Would, assuming we had Mirande getting a Rank 2 or better Psyker Education Trait, it help reduce the odds of "Horrible disaster" from doing the Psi-Research track? Since we'd have a diviner helping fact-check.
Would, assuming we had Mirande getting a Rank 2 or better Psyker Education Trait, it help reduce the odds of "Horrible disaster" from doing the Psi-Research track? Since we'd have a diviner helping fact-check.
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An Intriguing Book
"Ah, I'm sorry Miss Anna; your mother is out of the office right now. She should be back in an hour or so if you want to wait for her?" The receptionist smiled calmly at the clearly frustrated girl. It really was a bit of a shame, how often the Dia's duties pulled her away from her family. And even when she did have a bit of free time, she seemed to spend a lot of it locked away in her office with strict instructions not to let anyone in.
"Tch, fine," Anna grumbled to herself as she paced the anteroom. Just getting her mother's signature for a class nature study was difficult anymore. It was ridiculous, especially since she seemed to have enough time to pull Sis off for some weird training several times a week.
Sometimes she honestly wondered if their mother was trying to drive a wedge between them. After all, anybody with half a working brain knew that the final goal behind the Shattersaw Confederacy was to unify the three factions. Anna wasn't exactly sure how they were intending to manage that with the 504s, but her inheriting the Dragonfly leadership was clearly meant to unify them.
The question was, who would have control in the end? Would it be Greengraft or the Dragonflies that would really dominate the merger?
Mother's training of Sis rather seemed like a way to make a stronger ruler for Greengraft than for the Dragonflies. Which really wouldn't bother her as much if not for the fact that she was going to have to deal with that snake pit-without proper training. From what Dad told her, one of the main reasons Grandpa had decided to go with the plan of marrying the two dynasties was to keep anyone from deciding to "help" nature along while he was alive.
And people wondered why she had an encyclopedic knowledge of poisons.
In her darker moments, she wondered if that wasn't the point. After all, if the eldest daughter died to an assassination from one of the Lords of the Flies, the next younger would inherit both positions, and the dynasties would be merged. And of course the ruler wouldn't want to move to a place where her sister had died.
"Miss Anna," The receptionist interrupted the young heir's pacing, "Would you like to wait in the office? I can lock out all of the sensitive functions from her computer so you can get your homework done."
"Are you sure?" Anna asked, "I wouldn't want you to do something wrong."
The secretary shook her head, "No, I'll lock out everything. Even if you were trying to get into something, the keystroke program would record what you had done." Anna nodded to her in thanks as she headed into the office. The secretary shook her head. That girl...stress lines shouldn't develop on a face that young.
Anna sat down, running through her homework. The computer here was a lot better maintained than the ones at school and had better programs to boot. Though she couldn't quite figure out why Mother had an architectural program. Weird.
At the twenty minute mark, she sat back to let her brain process what it had learned. She might not have been the smartest, but she worked hard to keep her grades up and according to the teachers, it was better to learn in small, frequent increments than to stuff it all in at once.
Of course, she needed something to relax too. she checked the computer, but it didn't even have the basic entertainment programs that most did, just more work-related stuff and some locked memory files.
Sighing, Anna checked the bookshelf in the corner. Most of it was philosophy books of one sort or another. She had read a few of them, but honestly they tended to contradict one another, and even themselves. There were some military books too, but they were only the common ones, the ones that everyone knew about. Anna had read them all, determined that a coup wouldn't get her any more than an assassin.
She had just about given up on finding something interesting when a rather unusual book caught her eye. It wasn't as well made as the others, and looked like it had seen some fairly hard use over the years. In fact, it looked like a journal of some kind. The pages had clearly been hand written.
Most of all, it was full of gibberish. Which made her curious: why would Mother have this in her office? She flipped through each page, wondering what exactly this thing was. It was when she got to the last page that she noticed the signature. "The Mourner" That...that was the signature the original Gravekeeper had used! It was a well-known fact that he had died in front of Mother (some whispered that it was in her arms) so maybe this was his diary or something.
She nearly jumped out of her skin when the intercom beeped. "Anna, your Mother just called. Apparently she has something to do today, so she won't be coming back to the office. She hopes to be home in time for dinner."
Anna ran over to the intercom, "All right. I'll be out as soon as I'm done with my homework." Typical, really. Still, today Mother's business might actually work to her advantage. She grabbed the book and put it on the scanner, scanning in page after page. She couldn't exactly disappear the original book, but she could make her own copy.
And really, from the stories she heard about the man, the Gravekeeper might have been weird, but he was awesome! To hear Dad talk about it, he had basically been a one-man faction in the Shattersaw War, keeping a whole chunk of territory all to himself through a combination of fear and respect.
That sounded great to her! If he had something he wanted to let others know, she was more than willing to listen.
Besides, her friends in the Gravetenders would love to hear more about their hero. Popularity was just another form of control after all.
AN: Oddly, the more I think about it, the more tragic a figure the Gravekeeper becomes. Think about it. He had followers, but how many of them actually spoke to him? You never hear about anyone saying they had a relationship with him. We, who he only spoke to a few times, may have been his best friend. We probably knew him best.
I think he can be best summed up this way: They revere his imagery, but not his memory.
"Ah, I'm sorry Miss Anna; your mother is out of the office right now. She should be back in an hour or so if you want to wait for her?" The receptionist smiled calmly at the clearly frustrated girl. It really was a bit of a shame, how often the Dia's duties pulled her away from her family. And even when she did have a bit of free time, she seemed to spend a lot of it locked away in her office with strict instructions not to let anyone in.
"Tch, fine," Anna grumbled to herself as she paced the anteroom. Just getting her mother's signature for a class nature study was difficult anymore. It was ridiculous, especially since she seemed to have enough time to pull Sis off for some weird training several times a week.
Sometimes she honestly wondered if their mother was trying to drive a wedge between them. After all, anybody with half a working brain knew that the final goal behind the Shattersaw Confederacy was to unify the three factions. Anna wasn't exactly sure how they were intending to manage that with the 504s, but her inheriting the Dragonfly leadership was clearly meant to unify them.
The question was, who would have control in the end? Would it be Greengraft or the Dragonflies that would really dominate the merger?
Mother's training of Sis rather seemed like a way to make a stronger ruler for Greengraft than for the Dragonflies. Which really wouldn't bother her as much if not for the fact that she was going to have to deal with that snake pit-without proper training. From what Dad told her, one of the main reasons Grandpa had decided to go with the plan of marrying the two dynasties was to keep anyone from deciding to "help" nature along while he was alive.
And people wondered why she had an encyclopedic knowledge of poisons.
In her darker moments, she wondered if that wasn't the point. After all, if the eldest daughter died to an assassination from one of the Lords of the Flies, the next younger would inherit both positions, and the dynasties would be merged. And of course the ruler wouldn't want to move to a place where her sister had died.
"Miss Anna," The receptionist interrupted the young heir's pacing, "Would you like to wait in the office? I can lock out all of the sensitive functions from her computer so you can get your homework done."
"Are you sure?" Anna asked, "I wouldn't want you to do something wrong."
The secretary shook her head, "No, I'll lock out everything. Even if you were trying to get into something, the keystroke program would record what you had done." Anna nodded to her in thanks as she headed into the office. The secretary shook her head. That girl...stress lines shouldn't develop on a face that young.
Anna sat down, running through her homework. The computer here was a lot better maintained than the ones at school and had better programs to boot. Though she couldn't quite figure out why Mother had an architectural program. Weird.
At the twenty minute mark, she sat back to let her brain process what it had learned. She might not have been the smartest, but she worked hard to keep her grades up and according to the teachers, it was better to learn in small, frequent increments than to stuff it all in at once.
Of course, she needed something to relax too. she checked the computer, but it didn't even have the basic entertainment programs that most did, just more work-related stuff and some locked memory files.
Sighing, Anna checked the bookshelf in the corner. Most of it was philosophy books of one sort or another. She had read a few of them, but honestly they tended to contradict one another, and even themselves. There were some military books too, but they were only the common ones, the ones that everyone knew about. Anna had read them all, determined that a coup wouldn't get her any more than an assassin.
She had just about given up on finding something interesting when a rather unusual book caught her eye. It wasn't as well made as the others, and looked like it had seen some fairly hard use over the years. In fact, it looked like a journal of some kind. The pages had clearly been hand written.
Most of all, it was full of gibberish. Which made her curious: why would Mother have this in her office? She flipped through each page, wondering what exactly this thing was. It was when she got to the last page that she noticed the signature. "The Mourner" That...that was the signature the original Gravekeeper had used! It was a well-known fact that he had died in front of Mother (some whispered that it was in her arms) so maybe this was his diary or something.
She nearly jumped out of her skin when the intercom beeped. "Anna, your Mother just called. Apparently she has something to do today, so she won't be coming back to the office. She hopes to be home in time for dinner."
Anna ran over to the intercom, "All right. I'll be out as soon as I'm done with my homework." Typical, really. Still, today Mother's business might actually work to her advantage. She grabbed the book and put it on the scanner, scanning in page after page. She couldn't exactly disappear the original book, but she could make her own copy.
And really, from the stories she heard about the man, the Gravekeeper might have been weird, but he was awesome! To hear Dad talk about it, he had basically been a one-man faction in the Shattersaw War, keeping a whole chunk of territory all to himself through a combination of fear and respect.
That sounded great to her! If he had something he wanted to let others know, she was more than willing to listen.
Besides, her friends in the Gravetenders would love to hear more about their hero. Popularity was just another form of control after all.
AN: Oddly, the more I think about it, the more tragic a figure the Gravekeeper becomes. Think about it. He had followers, but how many of them actually spoke to him? You never hear about anyone saying they had a relationship with him. We, who he only spoke to a few times, may have been his best friend. We probably knew him best.
I think he can be best summed up this way: They revere his imagery, but not his memory.
Oh, damn. I didn't notice @Academia Nut post.
SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
@Academia Nut
Will you be cribbing the Dark heresy psyker power rankings for traits or will you be using the education trait only to represent psyker progress?
Basically I'm just wondering if we will have 4 degrees of differentiation or six degrees of differentiation via the six tier Psy rating system?
As it impacts any decisions on what training Mirande should do whether to monofocus divination or to grab a split focus in something like biomancy.
Will you be cribbing the Dark heresy psyker power rankings for traits or will you be using the education trait only to represent psyker progress?
Basically I'm just wondering if we will have 4 degrees of differentiation or six degrees of differentiation via the six tier Psy rating system?
As it impacts any decisions on what training Mirande should do whether to monofocus divination or to grab a split focus in something like biomancy.
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It could definitely help, but unless you use the same method the Authority uses it will be impossible to completely eliminate the risk.
And @Hangwind while amusing, Grave Keeper's memoirs are publicly available to everyone and the original copy is on display in the temple in Glenshade Manor.
Power is tracked differently. Psychic powers are by far the most complex thing I will model here. The education traits serve to track how much control you have, while there are going to be ranked traits for the different disciplines and possibly a separate power trait as well.
SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
Huh. Didn't know that. We are definitely going to have to encourage Anna to read that then, considering where we are sending her.
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how about the Codex Aetherium? where is it hidden? also, will the concert happen at the end of this turn? I expect something huge will happen, like an assassination or the proto-DE crashing the party!
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Would fully unlocking the Eldar Index be something else that helps?
I'm also curious about the possibilities of using neural cybernetics for biofeedback to help with psyker powers. Presumably the Authority do something like that in a much less ethical fashion.
Yeah, no. If she doesn't have that under lock, key, and anti-tank mines, I'll eat my hat.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
That is... Incredibly suspicious.
Like, the fact they have risk-free Psi Research when nobody can pull that off kind of raises a lot of warning bells. Likely, they pay the price in another way, because Psi is just too dangerous and too powerful to just completely be able to dive into it without consequences.
Well, the Mechanicus' psyker servitors don't seem to cause them problems. They are very limited though.
It doesn't make me much happier and less suspicious though. Presumably this is a pre-Fall technology they're using here, and the previous ruling family seem to have come to a bit of a cropper with psyker powers.
The other option I can see is that the psyker leader of the Authority has cloned his own brain, and has implanted that into his agents, and is actually forming some form of telepathic hive mind.
It's things like this that make you understand why the concept of Tech Heresy was invented.
I think he means that just straight copying their method is safer than developing our own from scratch.
Probably. The phrasing is ambiguous.
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Say what? Psyker servitors? Is that from some super-obscure material? I can't find anything about that anywhere.
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They're what the Mechanicus use for communications. They plug psyker-servitors into their altars and use them to transmit recovered information back to Mars.
Professor Vesca
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Ive never heard of that, anywhere, and I know more about the Mechanicus then most other people in this thread.
Link to your material at once good sir!
SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
Out of interest how does Willpower interact with the system does it work by regulating how quickly Mirande will be able to learn to use her powers or will it function as a boost to control and power?