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well we dont need to worry about Bandits then
A Villain In A World Of Heroes
- Thread starter Dark Ness
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Hyp3rB14d3
Gotta catch 'em all!
I don't see us becoming a giant monster in this forest, especially if we're only hanging around a week in-quest. I do see us wasting another month at the very least if we hang around another week in-quest, as well as risking losing the trail of the hero.
NeoDarklight
Lord of Mind
@Dark Ness, could you clarify what would happen for this vote? Is it a time skip, punctuated with a few major battles, or is that how long we are locked into doing?
Dark Ness
Rises Where Silence Dies
- Location
- The Primordial Soup
I am just going to give you a big hint. You need a Nat 100 or even above 90 depending on the circumstances. You won't be able to beat a hero right away with the things you can get from that, but it will set you up on the path to doing so more then just about anything else anywhere that is accessible to you at the moment. The only thing that is even comparable right now is getting a Nat 1 and somehow winning and eating it's heart.
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Dark Ness
Rises Where Silence Dies
- Location
- The Primordial Soup
If it is one or two days, it will be like it is now, moving from encounter to encounter but without the go back to town option and if you don't want to experiment or train or something, you will probably just go from fight to fight. For a week it would be about one major thing a day and I would roll for background things and how well you do. Unless the background rolls get weird, then I might have more then one thing in an in-quest day, but that shouldn't happen too often, if at all. The updates would take longer as well, because I would need to write up all the background things.
I don't see us becoming a monster in just a week either, as I said. I just think we could if we hanged around long enough (couple of months, or years), which I also said was more time than even I feel like dedicating. I want us here at least a week however. An even stronger base.
Plus, you never answered the question about what we are going to do when following the Hero. We can't beat him as is, so would we just stalk him forever? If you want to get training, that is spending even more time not following the Hero, giving him just as much chance to get further away as staying longer in the forest.
Hyp3rB14d3
Gotta catch 'em all!
That's because I answered that a while back. We would tail him to learn about him. His name, his abilities, how strong he is, where he lives, who he is friends with, and so on and so forth. Also, we should learn to recognize his scent. Stuff that will make it easier to find him again in the future.
Then we go off and turn ourselves into a super villain.
We can get his name off of people in the town, who will remember it for a good while him being a hero and all. His abilities probably aren't static, instead growing with time like ours. I don't think he lives any one place, he seems like the adventurer type of hero, his home is the road. I don't know how knowing his friends would be helpful information. As for his scent, I don't think our senses are that good yet.
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[x] Head back to town now.
-[x] Head back as you are
-[x] Head back as you are
Hyp3rB14d3
Gotta catch 'em all!
You're attributing a greater level of competence to the people in the town than I am.
Probably, but we can at least set an initial goal.
Maybe, maybe not. We won't know if we don't bother to check.
Knowing who could direct us to him would be immensely useful for finding him once we've gained more power. Plus, knowing who to kill to hurt him could be useful in making him come to us.
Pretty sure we've got wolf senses.
Edit: Found it.
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It's not competence. It's their perchance to be obsessed with celebrities and gossip. A hero is probably the equivalent to celebrities in this world after all.
Already have one. Such that the monsters of this forest are basically cannon fodder to us.
Why would his friends point us towards him? Heck, if he IS the adventurer type, how would they even know where he is?
That's rather standard villain fair, going after his loved ones. I'd think that would make fate favor him even more than it already is when he fights us.
A low-powered version of them. Plus, even if our sense of smell was as good mechanically, humans naturally ignore most of the sensory input they receive that the brain deems unimportant (this is why blind people seemingly have better senses, they are paying closer attention), so we would ALSO need enough instinct (or training) to actually make ourselves pay attention to our nose.
There is a difference between being able to differentiate different species by smell, and differentiate members of said species by smell. So while our senses ARE enhanced, I don't think ours are advanced enough to pick out his from all the other humans.
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chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
Ha, ha, ha... Oh wait, you're serious, let me laugh harder. In case you just forgot, Ness has stated that we have less than a one in a thousand chance of beating a hero in a straight up fight. Giant monsters only have a one in a hundred chance. As in things like Godzilla. And you want to give this guy a chance to fight back against us killing him? The only way we're dispatching him is in the first blow, when he isn't aware of it. After he knows that we exist and are inclined to be detrimental to his health, we're dead. Reality will bend over backwards to make him win.
And any vote that involves tailing this guy before we become powerful enough to drive that first blow home when he isn't expecting it? Is a chance, no matter how small, for us to give the game away and get ganked before we can even get going. The only way I could see it working is if we could somehow pull off "Operation: Heroic Catspaw" while following this guy across the country. I doubt that we'll encounter a hero susceptible to this plan going in the same direction as this guy for long enough that we can convince him to follow us the rest of the way, and that doesn't change the fact that heroes naturally believe that they are the leaders of the group, so we'd have to make going in Prantagonist's direction seem like his idea on top of all this.
And all of this isn't even counting the fact that he teleported out of town, so nobody has any idea where he went.
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[X] A week
[X] Wander
[X] Wander
Hyp3rB14d3
Gotta catch 'em all!
So you're saying that we could potentially take him out with, say, a magical nuke? The kind of spell we can't learn in this forest? And also that trying to make ourselves into a big enough monster to beat him is a total waste of time?
So you're saying you see a way to make it work and have put enough thought into it that you gave the plan a name?
He teleported out of a burning building. Nowhere does it say he teleported out of the town.
NeoDarklight
Lord of Mind
[X] One Week
-[X] Train while hunting. We want to get as strong as possible, but we also need to have control of our strength
-[X] Train while hunting. We want to get as strong as possible, but we also need to have control of our strength
Dark Ness
Rises Where Silence Dies
- Location
- The Primordial Soup
You can, actually. Or, more specifically, you can find something that will give/lead you to that spell. You would just need to roll VERY well though and vote in specific ways.
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Hyp3rB14d3
Gotta catch 'em all!
Fair enough. A name still isn't much to go on.
Well, that's your goal. Mine is to become strong enough to paste the hero, then check to see how much stronger he has become, and do it again and again until we've surpassed him.
I'm just a little girl. My father was brutally murdered and his killer is on the loose. I need help bringing him to justice. I've heard X is a hero. Do you know where he is?
Plus, we don't know that he is the wandering type. Heck, we don't even know that he has friends.
And yet, we were already doomed to a horrible death from the start. Killing everyone he cares about will make him hurt.
We haven't tested their limits. We know not what we can do with them.
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
Responses in Hard-to-read Blue.
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Hyp3rB14d3
Gotta catch 'em all!
I took the expression to be panic over trapping himself in a burning building, possibly due to a recently acquired phobia of fire (from, say, getting the crap burned out of his arm).
Hyp3rB14d3
Gotta catch 'em all!
? I thought I saw an explanation from Dark Ness pop up, but I accidentally clicked reload and now it's gone.
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
Oh, you saw something alright. It's just that Dark Ness deletes their posts when they want to be sneaky, rather than hiding the text in the url for a link on a single period (As in the punctuation mark --->. That. Yeah.) like Firnagzen does when he wants Invisitexted Invistext that's undetectable.
We know that to heroes things like that Fenric Wolf we fought early on are Cannon Fodder. As such, to be on level with Heroes, they need to be cannon fodder to us.
Hero does not mean they are a nice guy. Heck, case and point with our hero. You think his friends would be much different? There's a fair chance they are heroes too, actually. Heroes seem like they might prefer to hang out with other Heroes, rather than peasants
No, we are doomed to lose in the end. We need to prolong when the end is, and not needlessly set up cliche villain plots, that would accelerate when the end comes.
Well then, lets find out before it's too late to improve them.
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
I don't understand this post... do you mean that you can't propose this plan because you made it an omake or something? Because it's already our plan: I've been advocating it for half the thread now, long before that omake, and since nobody has objected to it it's what we're going to try to do when we get out of the forest. The hard part will be finding a lawful good hero who'll want to be our friend.