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Oh, you guys. You get a penalty to dice rolls for making called shots like that (Semi-serious here). I advocated just attacking the head in general because
A.) The head is large enough that the first attack is quite likely to hit, and
B.) There is literally nowhere on the actual head that a freezing bolt of ice won't be effective*.
C.) And since the wolf is, presumably, looking away-ish from us because it hasn't seen us yet, it's eyes are near the edge of the "Target area", greatly enhancing the chance of missing the wolf all together if we botch this roll, as opposed to the center of the head from our Point of view.

*Side of the head? Massive headache, and half of it's head is frozen. Eye? Ridiculous pain, half of it's vision is gone, and, once again, part of it's head is frozen. At the base of an ear would hit it for massive damage because it's near the brain. And that's all assuming that there is no penetrative power to our spell because 'Fenris magic/anti-magic/magic resistance' stuff.
 
Oh wow, people actually expect to hit tiny moving target at this distance when said is trying to dodge?

That's kinda cute.

Instead of wasting initiative, you could use time before battle on boring but useful stuff like memorizing and maybe preparing environment, making a battle plan and steeling ourselves.

Or you could waste mana on trying to hit the wolf.
 
chocolote12 said:
Oh, you guys. You get a penalty to dice rolls for making called shots like that (Semi-serious here). I advocated just attacking the head in general because
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Not really, I would roll, if I rolled too low you would just hit the head, and If it was lower then that, you would miss entirely. You don't get penalties for trying to hit a smaller target on a larger one, it's just more difficult.
 
chocolote12 said:
Oh, you guys. You get a penalty to dice rolls for making called shots like that (Semi-serious here). I advocated just attacking the head in general because
A.) The head is large enough that the first attack is quite likely to hit, and
B.) There is literally nowhere on the actual head that a freezing bolt of ice won't be effective*.
C.) And since the wolf is, presumably, looking away-ish from us because it hasn't seen us yet, it's eyes are near the edge of the "Target area", greatly enhancing the chance of missing the wolf all together if we botch this roll, as opposed to the center of the head from our Point of view.

*Side of the head? Massive headache, and half of it's head is frozen. Eye? Ridiculous pain, half of it's vision is gone, and, once again, part of it's head is frozen. At the base of an ear would hit it for massive damage because it's near the brain. And that's all assuming that there is no penetrative power to our spell because 'Fenris magic/anti-magic/magic resistance' stuff.
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I fully expected some kind of called shot penalty for targeting the eyes.
a. The target is 10' tall, with eyes that are large proportional to its head, making the target much larger than it would normally be.
b. The point of targeting the eyes is to apply (presumably) permanent damage to the creature, and blind it on at least one side.
c. We have to speak the spell aloud. As soon as we start casting, it is basically guaranteed to look at us.

I am assuming the fur or the skin are what would have magic resistance if anything.

Wolfy said:
Oh wow, people actually expect to hit tiny moving target at this distance when said is trying to dodge?

That's kinda cute.

Instead of wasting initiative, you could use time before battle on boring but useful stuff like memorizing and maybe preparing environment, making a battle plan and steeling ourselves.

Or you could waste mana on trying to hit the wolf.
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The target is not as tiny as you seem to think. The target is moving, yes. It is currently prowling, presumably looking for prey. It is not trying to dodge the spell it doesn't know is coming nor knows we can cast.

We don't exactly have a lot of time to 'prepare the environment' with the large magic wolf, with senses at least as good as its mundane counterpart, being only 30 feet away from us in a clearing. I'm honestly surprised we were able to get this close without being noticed sooner.
 
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Arkatekt said:
I fully expected some kind of called shot penalty for targeting the eyes.
a. The target is 10' tall, with eyes that are large proportional to its head, making the target much larger than it would normally be.
b. The point of targeting the eyes is to apply (presumably) permanent damage to the creature, and blind it on at least one side.
c. We have to speak the spell aloud. As soon as we start casting, it is basically guaranteed to look at us.

I am assuming the fur or the skin are what would have magic resistance if anything.


The target is not as tiny as you seem to think. The target is moving, yes. It is currently prowling, presumably looking for prey. It is not trying to dodge the spell it doesn't know is coming nor knows we can cast.

We don't exactly have a lot of time to 'prepare the environment' with the large magic wolf, with senses at least as good as its mundane counterpart, being only 30 feet away from us in a clearing. I'm honestly surprised we were able to get this close without being noticed sooner.
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Sub-vocalization is a thing. As in muttering so soft you can't hear it come out of a person's throat from a yard away. And we just learned Icebolt. I would bet no amount of money on our accuracy, much less our lives, so anything nearly as effective that takes a lower roll to achieve is better in my book.
 
Vote tally:
##### 3.21
[X] Use pebble to distract the wolf while you set up a trap
-[X] The trap is nothing more than a bunch of flammable material gathered in one place (so that we will burn it when the wolf enters)
No. of votes: 1
Plasmid

[X] Fire ball its legs the chard in with your blade
No. of votes: 1
edmantgoog

[X] Use the Ice spell to hit the wolf in the mouth, freezing its teeth, then charge in to shatter them with as strong a blow as possible. If it doesn't run away after that, hit it with fire, then put your back to a tree and prepare to defend yourself.
No. of votes: 2
Ursine, Night_stalker

[X] Fire a barrage of Icebolts at it's head while moving into a better defensive position. Then, if it survives the constant barrage and starts coming at you, keep it up if you can, but prepare to meet it with your sword. Utilize the Wide-area nature of your fire spell if it starts dodging the Icebolts.
No. of votes: 1
chocolote12

[X] Fire an Icebolt at it's head while moving into a better defensive position.
[X] Fire more icebolts if you can while it charges at you.
-[X] When it is close enough create a fireball in it's path, hopefully it will both deal damage and the light will disorient it.
--[X] After it passed through the fireball, stab it in the neck or head with your sword.​
No. of votes: 1
Cjdavis103

[x]Heel, beast! I am your new master now, obey me!
-[x] When that inevitably fails, discourage its inevitable aggression with the sharp bit of iron you brought along for this very purpose.
--[x] Repeat until pacified.
---[x] If pacification results in death, eat the heart and take the pelt.
No. of votes: 1
Slamu

[X] Ice spell bombing.
No. of votes: 1
Bakkasama

[x] Before it has time to notice you, fire a barrage of ice bolts at one of its hind legs. If all goes well, this will cripple its movement speed.
[x] If possible, take out the other hind leg as well.
[x] Use fireballs to set fire to its fur, then run.
[x] Keep your distance and pelt it with ice bolts. Try to avoid putting out the flames.
No. of votes: 1
Hyp3rB14d3

[X] Attempt to send an icebolt through the wolf's eyes before it has a chance to notice you
-[X] Whether we successfully hit the eyes or not
--[X] Immediately throw ice bolts at his legs while we move near a tree that we can get behind when it charges us
---[X] If we are able to immobilize it, back away to another tree and throw icebolts at its face until it dies or breaks free
----[X] If it breaks free, resume icebolts to his legs,
-----[X] Repeat from step 3 until dead
No. of votes: 1
Arkatekt

[X] Attempt to send an icebolt through the wolf's eyes before it has a chance to notice you
[X] Move into a better defensive position
[X] If it charges
-[X] Fire more icebolts if you can while it charges at you.
--[X] When it is close enough create a fireball in it's path, hopefully it will both deal damage and the light will disorient it.
---[X] After it passed through the fireball, stab it in the neck or head with your sword.
[X] If it advances slowly
-[X] Back down while firing icebolts at the wolf, don't run back since it's a guaranteed way of falling down, so move slowly.
--[X] Try to shoot it's legs to slow it down even more.
No. of votes: 2
Itaywex, Bondo
Well, lots of one vote plans.
 
Since there is a tie between two plans, and those plans have only two votes, i will leave it it open for a while longer. I will say this, though, ALL the plans could be improved, and it would be in your best interest to hash one out that the majority can agree with.
 
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[X] Attempt to send an icebolt through the wolf's eyes before it has a chance to notice you
[X] Move into a better defensive position
[X] If it charges
-[X] Fire more icebolts if you can while it charges at you.
--[X] When it is close enough create a fireball in it's path, hopefully it will both deal damage and the light will disorient it.
---[X] After it passed through the fireball, stab it in the neck or head with your sword.
[X] If it advances slowly
-[X] Back down while firing icebolts at the wolf, don't run back since it's a guaranteed way of falling down, so move slowly.
--[X] Try to shoot it's legs to slow it down even more.
chocolote12 said:
Sub-vocalization is a thing. As in muttering so soft you can't hear it come out of a person's throat from a yard away. And we just learned Icebolt. I would bet no amount of money on our accuracy, much less our lives, so anything nearly as effective that takes a lower roll to achieve is better in my book.
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Unless I'm misinterpreting what Dark Ness said, we are not skilled enough with magic to sub vocalize the spell, and are required to speak it aloud.
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Within a second, the ice flies faster then a running horse, but not so fast that you can't track it, the fire flies at about the same speed as a running horse. You have to say it (for now) but you can whisper or mutter it as quietly as you want, possibly even subvocalize it.
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Arkatekt said:
Unless I'm misinterpreting what Dark Ness said, we are not skilled enough with magic to sub vocalize the spell, and are required to speak it aloud.
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It will be decided by a roll, if you just choose to speak really, really, quietly, it will not need a roll. Of course, if you succeed here, you will no longer need to roll for it in the future, because you have shown you can do it under stress. This is the proving ground, things you succeed at here will become much easier going ahead. On the other hand, if you fail..........
 
In the interests of a solidified plan, I change my vote to this.
[X] Attempt to send an icebolt through the wolf's eyes before it has a chance to notice you + Try Sub-vocalizing first. If we're too soft or incoherent for it to be counted as the spell, the wolf probably won't hear us, which means we could try again, and if we're too loud we're shooting the bolt anyway.
[X] Move into a better defensive position + While continuously firing, because if we don't oneshot it it WILL be coming for us
[X] When it charges
-[X] Fire more icebolts if you can while it charges at you.
--[X] When it is close enough create a fireball in it's path, hopefully it will both deal damage and the light will disorient it.
---[X] After it passed through the fireball, stab it in the neck or head with your sword.
[X] If it advances slowly
-[X] Back down while firing icebolts at the wolf, don't run back since it's a guaranteed way of falling down, so move slowly.
--[X] Try to shoot it's legs to slow it down even more.
 
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[X] Attempt to send an icebolt through the wolf's eyes before it has a chance to notice you + Try Sub-vocalizing first. If we're too soft or incoherent for it to be counted as the spell, the wolf probably won't hear us, which means we could try again, and if we're too loud we're shooting the bolt anyway.
[X] Move into a better defensive position + While continuously firing, because if we don't oneshot it it WILL be coming for us
[X] When it charges
-[X] Fire more icebolts if you can while it charges at you.
--[X] When it is close enough create a fireball in it's path, hopefully it will both deal damage and the light will disorient it.
---[X] After it passed through the fireball, stab it in the neck or head with your sword.
[X] If it advances slowly
-[X] Back down while firing icebolts at the wolf, don't run back since it's a guaranteed way of falling down, so move slowly.
--[X] Try to shoot it's legs to slow it down even more.
 
[X] Attempt to send an icebolt through the wolf's eyes before it has a chance to notice you + Try Sub-vocalizing first. If we're too soft or incoherent for it to be counted as the spell, the wolf probably won't hear us, which means we could try again, and if we're too loud we're shooting the bolt anyway.
[X] Move into a better defensive position + While continuously firing, because if we don't oneshot it it WILL be coming for us
[X] When it charges
-[X] Fire more icebolts if you can while it charges at you.
--[X] When it is close enough create a fireball in it's path, hopefully it will both deal damage and the light will disorient it.
---[X] After it passed through the fireball, stab it in the neck or head with your sword.
[X] If it advances slowly
-[X] Back down while firing icebolts at the wolf, don't run back since it's a guaranteed way of falling down, so move slowly.
--[X] Try to shoot it's legs to slow it down even more.

tl dr vote
[X] OVERWHELMING SUPRISE ATTACK OF DEATH (done very very quietly)
-[X]When that inevitably fails because we don't get nat 20's b/c Villain Malus, KITE LIKE HELL!
 
[X] Attempt to send an icebolt through the wolf's eyes before it has a chance to notice you + Try Sub-vocalizing first. If we're too soft or incoherent for it to be counted as the spell, the wolf probably won't hear us, which means we could try again, and if we're too loud we're shooting the bolt anyway.
[X] Move into a better defensive position + While continuously firing, because if we don't oneshot it it WILL be coming for us
[X] When it charges
-[X] Fire more icebolts if you can while it charges at you.
--[X] When it is close enough create a fireball in it's path, hopefully it will both deal damage and the light will disorient it.
---[X] After it passed through the fireball, stab it in the neck or head with your sword.
[X] If it advances slowly
-[X] Back down while firing icebolts at the wolf, don't run back since it's a guaranteed way of falling down, so move slowly.
--[X] Try to shoot it's legs to slow it down even more.

Upgraded plan ftw
 
[X] Attempt to send an icebolt through the wolf's eyes before it has a chance to notice you + Try Sub-vocalizing first. If we're too soft or incoherent for it to be counted as the spell, the wolf probably won't hear us, which means we could try again, and if we're too loud we're shooting the bolt anyway.
[X] Move into a better defensive position + While continuously firing, because if we don't oneshot it it WILL be coming for us
[X] When it charges
-[X] Fire more icebolts if you can while it charges at you.
--[X] When it is close enough create a fireball in it's path, hopefully it will both deal damage and the light will disorient it.
---[X] After it passed through the fireball, stab it in the neck or head with your sword.
[X] If it advances slowly
-[X] Back down while firing icebolts at the wolf, don't run back since it's a guaranteed way of falling down, so move slowly.
--[X] Try to shoot it's legs to slow it down even more.
 
[X] Attempt to send an icebolt through the wolf's eyes before it has a chance to notice you + Try Sub-vocalizing first. If we're too soft or incoherent for it to be counted as the spell, the wolf probably won't hear us, which means we could try again, and if we're too loud we're shooting the bolt anyway.
[X] Move into a better defensive position + While continuously firing, because if we don't oneshot it it WILL be coming for us
[X] When it charges
-[X] Fire more icebolts if you can while it charges at you.
--[X] When it is close enough create a fireball in it's path, hopefully it will both deal damage and the light will disorient it.
---[X] After it passed through the fireball, stab it in the neck or head with your sword.
[X] If it advances slowly
-[X] Back down while firing icebolts at the wolf, don't run back since it's a guaranteed way of falling down, so move slowly.
--[X] Try to shoot it's legs to slow it down even more.

The only thing I have a concern about is attempting to melee the giant wolf, but it's good enough.
 
Vote tally:
##### 3.21
[X] Use pebble to distract the wolf while you set up a trap
-[X] The trap is nothing more than a bunch of flammable material gathered in one place (so that we will burn it when the wolf enters)
No. of votes: 1
Plasmid

[X] Fire ball its legs the chard in with your blade
No. of votes: 1
edmantgoog

[X] Use the Ice spell to hit the wolf in the mouth, freezing its teeth, then charge in to shatter them with as strong a blow as possible. If it doesn't run away after that, hit it with fire, then put your back to a tree and prepare to defend yourself.
No. of votes: 2
Ursine, Night_stalker

[x]Heel, beast! I am your new master now, obey me!
-[x] When that inevitably fails, discourage its inevitable aggression with the sharp bit of iron you brought along for this very purpose.
--[x] Repeat until pacified.
---[x] If pacification results in death, eat the heart and take the pelt.
No. of votes: 1
Slamu

[X] Ice spell bombing.
No. of votes: 1
Bakkasama

[x] Before it has time to notice you, fire a barrage of ice bolts at one of its hind legs. If all goes well, this will cripple its movement speed.
[x] If possible, take out the other hind leg as well.
[x] Use fireballs to set fire to its fur, then run.
[x] Keep your distance and pelt it with ice bolts. Try to avoid putting out the flames.
No. of votes: 1
Hyp3rB14d3

[X] Attempt to send an icebolt through the wolf's eyes before it has a chance to notice you + Try Sub-vocalizing first. If we're too soft or incoherent for it to be counted as the spell, the wolf probably won't hear us, which means we could try again, and if we're too loud we're shooting the bolt anyway.
[X] Move into a better defensive position + While continuously firing, because if we don't oneshot it it WILL be coming for us
[X] When it charges
-[X] Fire more icebolts if you can while it charges at you.
--[X] When it is close enough create a fireball in it's path, hopefully it will both deal damage and the light will disorient it.
---[X] After it passed through the fireball, stab it in the neck or head with your sword.
[X] If it advances slowly
-[X] Back down while firing icebolts at the wolf, don't run back since it's a guaranteed way of falling down, so move slowly.
--[X] Try to shoot it's legs to slow it down even more.
No. of votes: 5
chocolote12, Cjdavis103, Itaywex, Bondo, Arkatekt

[X] Attempt to send an icebolt through the wolf's eyes before it has a chance to notice you + Try Sub-vocalizing first. If we're too soft or incoherent for it to be counted as the spell, the wolf probably won't hear us, which means we could try again, and if we're too loud we're shooting the bolt anyway.
[X] Move into a better defensive position + While continuously firing, because if we don't oneshot it it WILL be coming for us
[X] When it charges
-[X] Fire more icebolts if you can while it charges at you.
--[X] When it is close enough create a fireball in it's path, hopefully it will both deal damage and the light will disorient it.
---[X] After it passed through the fireball, stab it in the neck or head with your sword.
[X] If it advances slowly
-[X] Back down while firing icebolts at the wolf, don't run back since it's a guaranteed way of falling down, so move slowly.
--[X] Try to shoot it's legs to slow it down even more.
[X] OVERWHELMING SUPRISE ATTACK OF DEATH (done very very quietly)
-[X]When that inevitably fails because we don't get nat 20's b/c Villain Malus, KITE LIKE HELL!
No. of votes: 1
Ehorin
 
[X] Attempt to send an icebolt through the wolf's eyes before it has a chance to notice you + Try Sub-vocalizing first. If we're too soft or incoherent for it to be counted as the spell, the wolf probably won't hear us, which means we could try again, and if we're too loud we're shooting the bolt anyway.
[X] Move into a better defensive position + While continuously firing, because if we don't oneshot it it WILL be coming for us
[X] When it charges
-[X] Fire more icebolts if you can while it charges at you.
--[X] When it is close enough create a fireball in it's path, hopefully it will both deal damage and the light will disorient it.
---[X] After it passed through the fireball, stab it in the neck or head with your sword.
[X] If it advances slowly
-[X] Back down while firing icebolts at the wolf, don't run back since it's a guaranteed way of falling down, so move slowly.
--[X] Try to shoot it's legs to slow it down even more.



Is it possible to get to the level where we could do something like 1:53?
 
Frakir's brother said:
Is it possible to get to the level where we could do something like 1:53?
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Possiblely.

Vote locked.

[X] Attempt to send an icebolt through the wolf's eyes before it has a chance to notice you + Try Sub-vocalizing first. If we're too soft or incoherent for it to be counted as the spell, the wolf probably won't hear us, which means we could try again, and if we're too loud we're shooting the bolt anyway.
[X] Move into a better defensive position + While continuously firing, because if we don't oneshot it it WILL be coming for us
[X] When it charges
-[X] Fire more icebolts if you can while it charges at you.
--[X] When it is close enough create a fireball in it's path, hopefully it will both deal damage and the light will disorient it.
---[X] After it passed through the fireball, stab it in the neck or head with your sword.
[X] If it advances slowly
-[X] Back down while firing icebolts at the wolf, don't run back since it's a guaranteed way of falling down, so move slowly.
--[X] Try to shoot it's legs to slow it down even more.
Dark Ness threw 1 10-faced dice. Reason: subvocalizing Total: 4
4 4
Dark Ness threw 1 7-faced dice. Reason: Accuracy Total: 6
6 6
Dark Ness threw 1 7-faced dice. Reason: Second Shot Total: 4
4 4
Dark Ness threw 1 10-faced dice. Reason: Fireball Total: 7
7 7
Dark Ness threw 1 3-faced dice. Reason: Stab Total: 2
2 2
 
So, we botched whispering, shot off a bolt, hit pretty darn well, shot another bolt not-so-well, Fireballed it pretty good, and then stabbed it almost as well as possible given that we have little girl arms and a short sword.

Eh, could have been worse, but now we're in melee range of a worse-than-a-Dire-wolf Wolf. If it's not dead or almost dead, then we're toast. Or maybe eggs sunny-side up, considering it doesn't have fire-breath.
 
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Why would we do that? We suck at staying quiet, apparently, but otherwise our magecraft in general is far better than our blade. He used a seven sided dice for spells and a three sided one for swording, so it's obvious which skill-set we should work on. Not fire and sword; Ice and fire 'cause we're wimpy.

If we practice like auctioneers do, there's no reason we can't get off a good ten Icebolts a minute, at least, and that's just an apprentice level spell. If we can somehow make a one word spell (Preferably one that doesn't turn into a tongue twister if you say it too fast) that does even a little damage, like a really tiny fireball that has ten candleflame's worth of heat in it, we can buy a silly hat and become a Touhou dominate in fights against most people, and do assassin creed style sniping for the others. Nobody will stand in our little, girly way! Mwuahahahaha!
 
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    • You shoot an ice blolt at the Feric Wolf, attacking it preemptively, after all, there is little doubt that it would leave you alone when it found you, especially when you are this close. You attempt to speak it silently, although, you aren't really sure how to do that, mouth it maybe? Regardless, you don't really mange it, and instead just say the spell "Nova Glaciem!" You were aiming for the wolf's eyes, and you scored a direct hit, spearing it's right eye, although, not hard enough to pierce through it's brain.

    The wolf howls in pain and whips around turns you, while you fire another ice bolt "Nova Glaciem!" You hit while it's charging, aiming for it's left eye, but it barely hits. Luckily, the ice bolt freezes anything things it's in contact with, so it still blinds it. Unfortunately, it continues charging towards you, although, it does slow down momentarily. This gives you enough time to cast a fire ball in it's path while you move to the side "Sphaera Ignifera!" The fire ball works will, distracting it and causing it to change course slightly.

    You attempt to take advance of this, and try to stab through it's neck. You don't get a clean hit, but you do slice the bottom of his neck and you think you cut an artery or something judging by how much it's bleeding. It will likely die very soon, unfortunately for you, it is now insane with rage, and, while blind, still has it's nose. How are you going to survive long enough to kill it, while it's in melee range?

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    chocolote12 said:
    used a seven sided dice for spells and a three sided one for swording, so it's obvious which skill-set we should work on. Not fire and sword; Ice and fire 'cause we're wimpy.
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    OCC: Yes, you are better at magecraft, but that is not why I used a three sided die for the stab, there was simply less possible outcomes for the stab then there was for the spell.
     
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