Would you Distort or manifest EGO?


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That part was an example of how low I consider letting her stay with Argalia in my order of priorities, hell, doing the same with Binah instead of Hokma is still higher for me than Argalia.
Quite biased there. But I do concede on your point with Madoka.

You know reading your comment on it, I think I'm gonna go with my original vote again...

[X] Let Argalia take care of her.
-[X] Ask Argalia where he and Leonie will be staying at.
--[X] Invite them to stay nearby your house if possible.

Leonie has some comradery being with Argalia, so I'm gonna let them stay with each other for a bit longer before judging further. Sure, dragging Leonie off and dumping her on the Librarians is certainly an option, but honestly speaking, it's not that high of a priority.

We can always just come back and pick her up tomorrow. It's not like Argalia is uncaring of her anyways. And letting her stay with a known companion is better than just immediately taking her away from him because "I know better".

I will change my second vote though.

[X] Discuss with Madoka about telling her parents on the truth of what she's involved with, and how she might help you in telling Hitomi's parents about the state of their daughter.
 
[X] Discuss with Madoka about telling her parents on the truth of what she's involved with, and how she might help you in telling Hitomi's parents about the state of their daughter.

Hmm, phrasing works:

[x] Take her with you
[X] Discuss with Madoka about telling her parents on the truth of what she's involved with, and how she might help you in telling Hitomi's parents about the state of their daughter.
 
[X] Let Argalia take care of her.
-[X] Ask Argalia where he and Leonie will be staying at.
--[X] Invite them to stay nearby your house if possible.
[X] Discuss with Madoka about telling her parents on the truth of what she's involved with, and how she might help you in telling Hitomi's parents about the state of their daughter.
 
You know, I'm incredibly surprised that we haven't come across any of the other Magical Girl Abnormalities yet.
 
Its nice you all want to give this abnormality guidance, but we are going to reach the point where the mc has to many mg's or other people to manage for them to be able to look after more. Just wanted to bring up this advice. At this point there will be no vote from me.
 
Just stating my opinion, I don't expect anyone to care. By that logic why should i care what you think then? Anyways good update and look forward to seeing Roland again and help make the world better.
 
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Just stating my opinion I dont expect anyone to care . By that logic why should i care what you think then?

I was specifically pointing out the fact that you *threatened* to not vote when this happens, which, you know, is just petty and completely pointless, this makes your remarks before less likely to be accepted, because that kind of remarks will make people disregard what you're saying on principle.

As for the first part of your post, we do know there is a point where we won't be able to take care of everything, but we haven't reached it by far, and there is this incredible thing called delegation that we can use to help about that, I'm sure the magical girls at the library can talk about it.
 
I did not threaten anyone at all I said I would not vote because there is not an option I wanted to vote for at the moment. Whatever its fine I guess.

Well, this seems to be a misunderstanding, you wrote that there wasn't going to be a vote from you right about pointing out a future situation, without detaching the two ideas in any way, so of course the logical conclusion was that you were actually talking about how you weren't going to vote when the hypothetical you were pointing out would happen.

A little *anyway* after a new paragraph would have made it more clear that you weren't talking about the same thing.
 
I've been meditating a bit, and now a question came to my mind:
¿Is Leonie an Oc character or was she some already known magical girl?

and if this has already been answered, well sorry, I'm not the best at capturing details
 
I've been meditating a bit, and now a question came to my mind:
¿Is Leonie an Oc character or was she some already known magical girl?

and if this has already been answered, well sorry, I'm not the best at capturing details
Barring some extraordinary coincidences, i can confidently say that Leonie is an original Magical Girl. I was originally planning to introduce more, but the existence of sufficient existing characters made it mostly a moot point.
 
Well I'm angry. Turns out there was a fucking time limit.

[X] Ask to take Leonie with you.
-[X] Ask Argalia where he will be staying at.
--[X] Invite him to stay nearby your house if possible.
[X] Go meet Hitomi's Parents.

Fine, this is better then nothing.
 
I don't know. I think Oz expected me to leave, at least after a while. She could tell I thought I was making a mistake again."

"Hold on," you interrupt with a calm, collected tone, "she knew you were going to turn on her and didn't do anything about it? I suppose I expected the Adult to be more vicious. She is an Abnormality, after all."

Leonie pauses, her needle waving back and forth between North and East indecisively. "If you say so. Oz didn't really seem surprised when I changed, now that you mention it.
I think this means she was intentionally pushed towards Distortion by the Adult. Not sure why, maybe Oz is just trying to fill her Evil Deeds quota as an Abnormality.

By the way, I think "Leonie is a tool" isn't the right symbolism. What matters is that she's a compass, which would ordinarily be cool, because a compass is sort of the ultimate expression of objective truth. But this one is broken and just spins randomly. It's not even useful as a tool of navigation, and what it actually does is straight up make new sub-realities (see Sidestory 12), without knowing what they will be in advance. Well, since this is a Distortion and therefore an expression of self-image (at least in this quest), this all basically boils down to Leonie giving up on trying to predict the consequences of her actions, and in fact on her actions having any pattern in the first place.

If you follow the symbolism's logic, the way to do things here is to study the needle's movements to determine its pattern (obviously it has to have one, even if it's not apparent to Leonie herself), and how it connects to the stuff she dreams up.

But, well, this is all for the future, as I think right now taking her in is not the right move, for action economy reasons. Not that I trust Argalia with her, but in the short term it should be fine to leave her with him.

Now, for the action vote, I actually think the right one to go for is Mami, but Hitomi's parents is also fine, so strategic voting it is.

[X] Leave her with Argalia
[X] Go meet Hitomi's Parents.
 
If you follow the symbolism's logic, the way to do things here is to study the needle's movements to determine its pattern (obviously it has to have one, even if it's not apparent to Leonie herself), and how it connects to the stuff she dreams up.

Hmmm, reading a compass to predict things, where did I see that sort of thing....



No, absolutely no idea. :V
 
We only had so many talk actions before we split up, and they were spent gathering one little bits of information we aren't going to be using anytime soon. Instead of trying to do help someone right in front of us.
But, well, this is all for the future, as I think right now taking her in is not the right move, for action economy reasons. Not that I trust Argalia with her, but in the short term it should be fine to leave her with him.
It's absolutely, objectively better to have her come with us. Even assuming Argalia is completely on the level and is trying to help Leonie, he's very lacking in tools to help her with. He doesn't seem to have a permanent place to stay, and if he does it around the Adult's territory. And it's only him there. He might be a Distortion like her, but they have near nothing else in common.

X can get her a human disguise that could at least let her walk around on her own. X herself might not be able to devote huge chucks of time to her, but X knows so many other people. Mami, Kyoko, Madoka, Yuma, they could all have a very positive impact on her, and they're much more available. There's people at the Library that could help. And even X's limited attention is very helpful because of Lobotomy. There's every reason Leonie is better off in Mitakihara.
 
We only had so many talk actions before we split up, and they were spent gathering one little bits of information we aren't going to be using anytime soon. Instead of trying to do help someone right in front of us.
I mean. You should've spoken up or brought up some points about what to talk about in that case.

Since you didn't tell us, I don't really think you should complain. We always had write-in options and all.
 
It's absolutely, objectively better to have her come with us. Even assuming Argalia is completely on the level and is trying to help Leonie, he's very lacking in tools to help her with. He doesn't seem to have a permanent place to stay, and if he does it around the Adult's territory. And it's only him there. He might be a Distortion like her, but they have near nothing else in common.

X can get her a human disguise that could at least let her walk around on her own. X herself might not be able to devote huge chucks of time to her, but X knows so many other people. Mami, Kyoko, Madoka, Yuma, they could all have a very positive impact on her, and they're much more available. There's people at the Library that could help. And even X's limited attention is very helpful because of Lobotomy. There's every reason Leonie is better off in Mitakihara.
I think we straight up don't have the time to help. Like, I'm pretty sure that if we don't find a good way to witchbomb Mami soon, the Adult is going to do it for us. And that's just one of the timers we're on at the moment. Very appropriately for a Lobotomy Corporation quest, attention span is the main resource.

I like the idea of delegating this in principle, but I also think it's kinda scummy to ask Leonie to come with us, and then immediately offload her to someone else.
 
We only had so many talk actions before we split up, and they were spent gathering one little bits of information we aren't going to be using anytime soon. Instead of trying to do help someone right in front of us.

There is literally an option to keep this person we wants to help with us right there in the update, which is what at least some of us where counting on, plus some people having proposed to ask Argalia to live close to us to still be able to talk to Leonie.

We also will be able to meet Leonie later and obtaining informations on how fast we need to act to stop the Adult really was more important than helping Leonie right this second.

You really have no right to complain on what we did when the intentions of the votes were clear and we did obtain what we expected.

I do agree with your arguments that taking Leonie with us now is objectively better, but it's explicitly because we can do so now that we didn't spend all this conversation on her at the cost of vital information.

And we don't need to delegate to the library to take care of her enough, just giving her a human body again would be a gigantic step forward for her options, and we can let her become friend with Homura and Kyouko, it's not being scummy, she can also stay with us while we explain things to our daughters.
 
Obviously, we just have to trust our old friend, Kyubey, to look after our new friends! There is no chance that this will end badly at all, and how many new things can we learn~
 
Is Pluto's magic disguise a physical morph or an illusion? Kyoko and Homura could still walk on their own as distortions, so if it's just an illusion then it will do no good for Leonie.
 
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Is Pluto's magic disguise a physical morph or an illusion? Kyoko and Homura could still walk on their own as distortions, so if it's just an illusion then it will do no good for Leonie.
Pluto's magic and its limits aren't super well-defined, and it seems a bit like he can just do whatever he wants at times. For the disguises, I'm running them as a mix of his two most displayed abilities, Contracts and Barriers. The disguise is a voluntary agreement to temporarily bind some outward expression of Distorted traits as the subject wishes. It's not really changing a person's shape, and wouldn't magically give Leonie legs.
 
Hm.

I guess we would have to be way more devious to give Leonie legs, but then again, that's literally playing with the devil's words.

What kind of condition would give or worse, force a distortion to change in a way that makes them have legs?
 
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