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“Human Resources” Shouldn’t Be This Literal: A PMMM/ProjectMoon Quest

Would you Distort or manifest EGO?

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Nyarky said:
I don't think it'd be used as is, would require to be an [all allies] for me to think about it, you will never have enough speed dices on a single character to make it able to be used otherwise. Too much risks of just losing the act.
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I balanced it with damage enhancers like Smoke and Nikolai's mark in mind, not to mention Yang. As a result, it's pretty underwhelming without a dedicated deck, but I think that's okay too. Not every page has to be good after all. (*cough* Silent Orchestra *cough*)

Lurker183839 said:
I wonder what X gathered from the pre and post Meltdown talk with Binah?
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Dad's rebound girlfriend decided that she loves him anyway, despite jealously staring down a well at Mom's corpse for ten thousand years.
 
Let's say you managed to set it upright. And has 4 Rapid Gashes or any other 3 attack dice replacement slotted in with Final Desperation.

You would obtain 12 goddamn 25+ rolls dice (Maybe less, maybe more depending on the keypage you slot in).

That's a 300-damage nuke for basically free.

Of course, it's probably not worth it. From what I'm seeing, the other pages are usually more useful. But, if you FUCKED UP and somehow let your ass get beat this hard.

Geography is the floor with the actual nuclear option.
 
Or you could use it with 100+ stagger for 50+ Power...with that Sweeper exclusive Page that recycles the dice a lot, like 10 times if you are lucky.

Usually its lots of small damages, but well...
 
It'd probably also see good use in a Nikolai Disposal build. Smoke, Maxim's passive, Mark and then Disposal which doubles damage if the enemy is below half HP for the 2nd die and some extra from Mark interaction...

plus some 0 costs or something on other speed die. This may actually do more.
 
questioningmeme said:
Of course, it's probably not worth it. From what I'm seeing, the other pages are usually more useful. But, if you FUCKED UP and somehow let your ass get beat this hard.
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This is absolutely why I would never use this page, I will rather reset than let a fight reach a point where this page can seem like a good idea, so it will always be a dead drop for me.

Like, a 300 damages nuke is not enough to make me decide to lose any act, most of what stopped me from beating the last fight against the distorted ensemble was that I was extremely reluctant to do it with even two floors, I wanted to do it in one, a card entirely made to force this situation is not even in the same planet as my thought process.

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Actually, let me show you a version of this concept I would go for:

Final Desperation
Level III Breakdown Page
[All allies] - For this Scene, gain Dice Power equal to half of your maximum Stagger Resist. Each of your librarians will die at the end of their attacks.

That way, it can be used in others way and you have to calculate for any multiple acts fights.

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Actually, here's another:

Final Desperation
Level III Breakdown Page
[All Allies] - Requires all your librarians to have a different Synchronization page. For this Scene, gain Dice Power equal to half of your maximum Stagger Resist. At the start of the next Scene, the Act ends in defeat.
 
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Nyarky said:
This is absolutely why I would never use this page, I will rather reset than let a fight reach a point where this page can seem like a good idea, so it will always be a dead drop for me.

Like, a 300 damages nuke is not enough to make me decide to lose any act, most of what stopped me from beating the last fight against the distorted ensemble was that I was extremely reluctant to do it with even two floors, I wanted to do it in one, a card entirely made to force this situation is not even in the same planet as my thought process.
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I was intending for it to combo with Backward Clock, so that you don't actually lose, just get healed and knocked back to Emotion 0. The parallel with PMMM canon is a nice bonus, too.

It's obviously not a good page for big, slogging fights like the Distorted Reverb Ensemble though.
 
hmmm.
then you should change the text into kill all allie at end of turn.
right now it feels like the fight just ends when you are done, not that.
 
The name of it is Final Desperation.

I'm just saying its pretty fitting for what it is doing.

It's one last desperate hailmarry from an already defeated floor. For that, a 300 damage nuke is more than good enough.

The floor already have a pretty fucking busted EXODIA option. Alongside a whole Act Restart card.

Like seriously? It's beyond good enough.
 
Adhoc vote count started by Lepidoptera on Dec 3, 2022 at 4:17 PM, finished with 125 posts and 32 votes.
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View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yyDMMFxImrA
 
Hmm, Mami and Yuma are legally family (and are definitely family in X's and Mami's heart). Hopefully that gets brought up at least.
 
questioningmeme said:
It depends I guess. But I don't think Enkephalin is possible to be harvested from normal people WITHOUT the Seed of Light.

And before the Seed of Light, Enkephalin was only possible to obtain from huge sources of light anyhow.

One thing is for sure. The Incubators will definitely get more exposure no matter what they do if they attempt this endeavor.
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I'm too bored, so I'm gonna try to argue.
We do not know what exactly lobotomy corporations enkephalin is.
it could be the literal substance the human brain produce, It could be liquid emotion, it could be refined cogito( Technically it is, Use cogito to create an abnormality and use abnormality to create enkephlin.)
If we go with the first one, then it is pretty obvious that why human can produce enkephlin and they can produce it without outside help.
If we go with the second one, then we just need to find a way to liquefy emotion.
If we go with the 3rd one, that that one will actually need you to have cogito.
I will argue that every person can produce it without outside help, It is just that the process of extracting it will kill someone, And it just generally easier to just make the person into a abnormality to extract it. But what I know I'm too bored and I haven't eat lunch.
 
kaillll said:
We do not know what exactly lobotomy corporations enkephalin is.
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We do. It's literally born from liquid emotions. There's a reason Ruina and Lobotomy's energy/emotions have the same colors. One of the dialogues in Lobotomy literally explains this as why Employee deaths are necessary.

kaillll said:
If we go with the first one, then it is pretty obvious that why human can produce enkephlin and they can produce it without outside help.
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Still wrong. Enkephalin can once again, only be brought into existence near the sources of light. Otherwise, the City would've found a way to produce Enkephalin far earlier than Lobotomy Corporation.

kaillll said:
I will argue that every person can produce it without outside help, It is just that the process of extracting it will kill someone, And it just generally easier to just make the person into a abnormality to extract it. But what I know I'm too bored and I haven't eat lunch.
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Eat it. Because you are very wrong.
Everyone has the potential to create Enkephalin because they are just emotions. But the Light will literally bring it out of you.
 
hmm.
eh, anyway.
How does one extrac enkephalin exactly? does abnormality just leaks it out of their body? Does it Just eminence out of abnos as a airborne substance?
Taking a look at a containment chamber, you can see there's a big water bottle and obvious air vents around the chamber but no actual water drain or something like that.
is there some sort of hidden device that just takes in emotion like just drain it out out from abnormality interactions? because they only produce it when interacting with people. So does it drain it out of abnormalities or people?
The employee doesnt go up and just stick a needle into the abnos. So I don't think that will be the way then they extract it and it will obviously piss off a lot of abnos... so...how do they actually drain it?
If you look at how they describe a EGO and EGO GIFT extraction, they mentioned Abnormality cell production...
So what the fuck.
 
kaillll said:
How does one extrac enkephalin exactly? does abnormality just leaks it out of their body? Does it Just eminence out of abnos as a airborne substance?
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Yes. That is probably the way. Perhaps there's some Light involved as well.

kaillll said:
is there some sort of hidden device that just takes in emotion like just drain it out out from abnormality interactions? because they only produce it when interacting with people. So does it drain it out of abnormalities or people?
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Both, because Ordeals also increase energy.

Do remember this. Lobotomy Corporation HQ, is a proto Library. With Ayin at the head instead of Angela. The method of obtaining emotional power is likely the same.

And post the SoL, the Light is everywhere. The method of obtaining Enkephalin is simply to make someone feel pain and extract it from them with either E.G.O or as a Distortion.
 
I'm still pretty mad at like the game doesn't give us actual explanation about it, but anyhow Getting the stuff is a big part of limbus company And we are exporting lcorp branches anyway. The technology and how it actually does stuff will get mentioned in some way. So who cares, we'll get answer some day.
 
At least they didn't decide to go on crunch time and force the release, or at least it doesn't seems so at first glance, better a game finished more slowly in good conditions than a rushed one for christmas.
 
Well, we already saw how rushed A product can be out of PMs hand(keter) So I hope they take their time and do it slowly and make it good
 
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