It assumes that we are going to build this facility regardless of what others think and I don't think that is something we can assume.
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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
- Thread starter Durin
- Start date
It assumes that we are going to build this facility regardless of what others think and I don't think that is something we can assume.
Okay, so I didn't get much feed back about the use of telepathica actions versus mechanicus, etc. What was commented made it seem that the real reason people want my plan is to take action on the Super Exitus Rifles, and since running the numbers it seems certain that double downs on the Mechanicus are better than the telepathic I'll move it there.
Still hesitant on whether to drop the cheating entirely, as it is marginaly better to use it but we could probably get away without using it. On the other hand we want to make sure we succeed, and the best place to use a Cheating is at the start, so I think I'm going to leave it.
Done. Also @Enjou you should add an Expedite to the Xavier Year 3 action. Wards can be expedited and telepathica actions are very valuable. It also doesn't cost any metal, and the AM/EM cost isn't that big. (An additional 500,000 AM and 6,000 EM to gain a telepathica action is cheap. City defenses cost more than that.
Link to updated plan: https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/posts/8690969/
Only changes are moving the double down (because success chance on the Rifles by the fourth action is higher this way) and moving the Spend Time with Julius to year one.
Still hesitant on whether to drop the cheating entirely, as it is marginaly better to use it but we could probably get away without using it. On the other hand we want to make sure we succeed, and the best place to use a Cheating is at the start, so I think I'm going to leave it.
Done. Also @Enjou you should add an Expedite to the Xavier Year 3 action. Wards can be expedited and telepathica actions are very valuable. It also doesn't cost any metal, and the AM/EM cost isn't that big. (An additional 500,000 AM and 6,000 EM to gain a telepathica action is cheap. City defenses cost more than that.
Link to updated plan: https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/posts/8690969/
Only changes are moving the double down (because success chance on the Rifles by the fourth action is higher this way) and moving the Spend Time with Julius to year one.
This is what I'd like, it's just I'm so busy doing the rest of the turn. Plus, I'm not sure we have enough information.
Wait what? Was this actual information we got from the Sirens? Or was this just thread speculation?
Can someone post a link to the actual post discussing this, or quote it? Because I don't want to spend effort recreating the wheel if it was already done.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
I believe @Durin said it somewhere after we asked if animals would do.
IIRC powerful exotic animals, but no weapons or sphinxes.
I'll see if I can find what it was exactly.
FOUND IT
...So part speculation on the more powerful animals we know of, part WOG.
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As long as you keep a DD on Destroyer armor I am 100% happy with your plan. Giant Astartes bias and all
Okay. Maybe it is because english is not my first language but I can not read the point you are criticising. I don't say it is not there because my gasp of the language is not perfect but I can not find it.
HanEmpire
Delicious
Your proposal is too in-depth and expansive to the point that it comes off as if Avernus is pushing/pressuring the other parties to go along with the plan.
Not "hey does this sound like a good idea?", but rather "hey I got a great idea, you can pitch in this much right?".
So that is it.
I tried to hit the tone of an idea that needs feedback to continue. I tried to explain the problem in order to make answering it easier. This is obviously beyond my ability to get the meaning I aim for across.
HanEmpire
Delicious
They probably use them as retinues for high ranking officers, or as part of Psyker Battle Squads.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Probably not like how we use them, their army is too large to deploy them the same way.
My guess is either as Han put it, as choires/regiments/squads alone, or just putting them under the control of the greater university when they are deployed.
@Durin
1. Do the Marines seem happy with their new armour
2. Have we seen a demonstration from a Marine using Elite pattern?
3. How skilled on Average are the 1000, year old marines (Excluding Julius and Horatius)
4. How progressive is Tranth or does he just not care?
5. How many other worlds in the Trust have Forge Hives/Forge Cathedrals (not including Mus, Nif and Svart?)
6. What happens to psykers on worlds we don't have a branch on?
- Location
- Alice Springs, Australia
they have more Witch Finders then you, mostly due to size and deploy their battle psykers are Psyker attaches, acting as assistants or bodyguards for the senior officers
- Location
- Alice Springs, Australia
1. yes
2. yes you have, it is terrifying. even a Green Marine in Elite Armour can match an old Imperial Veteran
3. Julius is not much above average in combat skill, though all of the original Marines are slated to either take potions as Praetors, Masters or Cohort Champions
4. very very progressive, and not political enough to know how progressive he really is
5. Vanaheim has orbital variations, Alfheim has some and Midgard has areas sert aside in some of its Hives for the Mechancius that can be as large as one of your smaller Forge Hives
6. they are executed
HanEmpire
Delicious
Do the Conservatives and reactionaries claim Tranth as a champion of Mechanicus ideals?
Reviewing Ophelia Jameson
Valkur
The True Valkyria, Valkur!
- Location
- Fólkvangr
FIrst I want to say that we need a Donald Trump in this quest. Just a funny character that talks about making the Mechanicus great again and how he wants to kill psykers with death squads like that one deacon did an somehow be rich enough to get away with it.
An now for some omakes!
Omake - Reviewing Ophelia Jameson
Ophelia kicks her legs while sitting on her chair. Geralds office was known to be devoid of ornamentation and being the quintessential Avernite office complete with weapons racks next to office storage units. Gerald was overlooking Opehlia's latest test results from her recent field extercise. Due to her extra-normal paranormal powers she had surgery to implant non-restrictive monitors to gauge her hear beat, breathing patterns, stress levels, and sweat glands.
The exercise was set up so that she was an auxiliary unit in a regiment. The regiment would be on moving column and hit during an ambush losing at least 30% of it's fighting strength in 'death' or injuries that prevented combat ability. The Regiment then withdraws with Ophelia being counted on to not fall in the line of duty by either enemy efforts or loss of control. Her handlers are always close by though and are always available to knock her out and cease the exercise whenever they think the breaking point is being discovered. It's still very dangerous but the Telepathic has no choice but to do it if they ever want to have a truly successful alpha psyker.
Gerald puts down the reports after reading them twice and looks up to Ophelia. She's so normal to him as a girl now at 26 and with little to discern her from her peers. She enjoys wearing grey robes now more than ever now claiming that it camouflages better in urban environments. At home she's taken up to helping her mother cook and clean. She's taken up ballet at one of the theatres in the University and loves to go to dance clubs whereever possible.
"Anything happen at the excercise Ophelia?" Gerald says while opening up her personel folder.
"No dad, It was mostly just run to one spot and than run back to be honest." she replied causually. She never did fully grasp the meaning of titles like "Grand Master of the War Department" or "Ash Hound". To her Gerald was just a dad, the kind that annoyed her about who she was hanging out with and what to feed her familiar.
"This converssation is being recorded for the record Ophelia." Gerald replied "I beleived I have said this before.".
Ophelia sighed and shrugged " I plead the fifth. No nothing happened out of the ordinary. Some voices tried to tell me to kill my handlers and scorch the ground. Another offered to be my father just now but nothing out of the ordinary."
Gerald jots down everything with a neutral face. It wasn't the first time her honesty had revealed such things. It was the norm for psykers but Ophelia was the exception in that her voices visited her almost fequently. She relied on her handlers and told them everything whenever she felt overwhelmed or annoyed. They would in turn do there best to knock her out or sooth the pain in any way. Has been since her first days at the telepathica. Thankfully the voices seemed to be more suppressed since the trials Ophelia has completed.
"Yesterday a petiton by you has been sent requesting to relieved of combat practice in order to pursue more meditative training. I quote 'meditation, Terran Yoga, tea, and chess help focus and sharpen the mind. I believe these activities are more effective than running in the field where my shoes get dirty." End quote.
Do you still feel that way?"
Ophelia kicked her feet faster and hunched forward "Y-Yes. Sir."
"Very well. I do not have any objections and will support the petition. It will be done on a trial basis for a week before you return to the field. I hope you can find whatever peace you can from yoga Ophelia."
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END Omake
An now for some omakes!
Omake - Reviewing Ophelia Jameson
Ophelia kicks her legs while sitting on her chair. Geralds office was known to be devoid of ornamentation and being the quintessential Avernite office complete with weapons racks next to office storage units. Gerald was overlooking Opehlia's latest test results from her recent field extercise. Due to her extra-normal paranormal powers she had surgery to implant non-restrictive monitors to gauge her hear beat, breathing patterns, stress levels, and sweat glands.
The exercise was set up so that she was an auxiliary unit in a regiment. The regiment would be on moving column and hit during an ambush losing at least 30% of it's fighting strength in 'death' or injuries that prevented combat ability. The Regiment then withdraws with Ophelia being counted on to not fall in the line of duty by either enemy efforts or loss of control. Her handlers are always close by though and are always available to knock her out and cease the exercise whenever they think the breaking point is being discovered. It's still very dangerous but the Telepathic has no choice but to do it if they ever want to have a truly successful alpha psyker.
Gerald puts down the reports after reading them twice and looks up to Ophelia. She's so normal to him as a girl now at 26 and with little to discern her from her peers. She enjoys wearing grey robes now more than ever now claiming that it camouflages better in urban environments. At home she's taken up to helping her mother cook and clean. She's taken up ballet at one of the theatres in the University and loves to go to dance clubs whereever possible.
"Anything happen at the excercise Ophelia?" Gerald says while opening up her personel folder.
"No dad, It was mostly just run to one spot and than run back to be honest." she replied causually. She never did fully grasp the meaning of titles like "Grand Master of the War Department" or "Ash Hound". To her Gerald was just a dad, the kind that annoyed her about who she was hanging out with and what to feed her familiar.
"This converssation is being recorded for the record Ophelia." Gerald replied "I beleived I have said this before.".
Ophelia sighed and shrugged " I plead the fifth. No nothing happened out of the ordinary. Some voices tried to tell me to kill my handlers and scorch the ground. Another offered to be my father just now but nothing out of the ordinary."
Gerald jots down everything with a neutral face. It wasn't the first time her honesty had revealed such things. It was the norm for psykers but Ophelia was the exception in that her voices visited her almost fequently. She relied on her handlers and told them everything whenever she felt overwhelmed or annoyed. They would in turn do there best to knock her out or sooth the pain in any way. Has been since her first days at the telepathica. Thankfully the voices seemed to be more suppressed since the trials Ophelia has completed.
"Yesterday a petiton by you has been sent requesting to relieved of combat practice in order to pursue more meditative training. I quote 'meditation, Terran Yoga, tea, and chess help focus and sharpen the mind. I believe these activities are more effective than running in the field where my shoes get dirty." End quote.
Do you still feel that way?"
Ophelia kicked her feet faster and hunched forward "Y-Yes. Sir."
"Very well. I do not have any objections and will support the petition. It will be done on a trial basis for a week before you return to the field. I hope you can find whatever peace you can from yoga Ophelia."
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Inner Peace
Valkur
The True Valkyria, Valkur!
- Location
- Fólkvangr
An for my second omake
Omake - Inner Peace
The University is a place of learning, culture, and inner excellence. Music plays in the background and trainers practice what craft they feel they need to explore that day. To be honest althugh I finished my trials to become a psyker I feel lost. I no longer have a goal to work for like I had for so long and I do not know where life will take me next.
Mother said that she felt the same when she graduated and recomended to go mediate. I asked what should I think about and she replied 'that is for you to decide. There are no final answers except the very obvious.'
I sit alone now with my handlers to the side meditating on my life up until now. I have done what many wished they could and passed. I am eternally a servant of the Emperor destined for great things surely with my innate power. But my real talent is not in peacecraft but in pyromancy the ability to burn things into death and oblivion. So much so that it will never return as if I was censoring it from reality.
I stretch my legs to the side and raise my arms to the sky,er, roof and feel my body listen to me. I have still have control over it thankfully. Control that no one else may take from me for I am a daughter of the Emperor of Man. I love him and he loves me just like his Holiness says in his mass. My hands joined together go forward and I feel my body shake in retribution.
My body is not used to working in such a way but I decide that today is the day I try new things. It fights me again as my hands dive forward and my torso at around 45 degrees. I push again but my body cannot go forward and I am unable to complete my exercise today. Frustrating.
I release the stress on my body and forgive it's weakness for I know that it did try it's best. I am still whole and my body is still my own.
Next I focus on my breathing to reach inner peace and focus my mind on my greatest task yet. To discover myself fully and now that my body is tired my mind has no choice but to relent to my questions.
I must find truth. Hard truths that will never change no matter what happens...the first is simple really. One day I will die for example be it on the battlefields that I will visit, in my bed by a phase tigers, or maybe even in old age. It is a hard pill to swallow and I can feel whispers offering me an alternative. I categoriacally decline because my body and mind are my own.
I decide that I will make love to the world as my mother does. She is always happy and never long in a state of angst or hatred. She loves me and I love her. She sings and dances still an always takes me to her classes plays. She'll never give up on me and I will never give up on me either. It's why I made sure that my last name was Jameson afterall. I want to be happy too now that I think about it but do I want what she has?
~Ahh~
I know not. I love you mother may the Emperor bless you and father find the correct synapeses to make you happier.
I take a long breath and begin to think about father now. He frustrates me with his sneaking around to see what I am always doing but I know it's because he's worried about me. I considered to be part of his familly but I know that he is still unsure on how to be a father. I always feel guilt in him and I think I know why. Behind his back soldiers call him "The Manavik Matchstick". He hates war and the things he's done. I know his pain from losing students to war, the warp, the trials, betrayal, and more. He knows that one day, sometime soon even, that he will have to send me to fight and that I may lose my life. His regimen for training is very extreme and he makes it that way so that I can be the best that I can be. I work hard though so that I can live up to his expectations because quite frankly I want him to be happy like Mother. Like me?
~ahh~
Now that I think about it where do I stand in the world? I am considered a 'Elite Primaris Psyker' but I do not know where to use my power yet. To Discover or Destroy? Both are needed and will be needed? Am I to do both? Can I do both?
~ahh~
Questions upon questions. The quest of knowledge is not unique in this aspect I see. I will need to take more time.
*4 hours later*
The handlers in the room are at a loss for words. They can no longer feel her power or see her soul with her witch sight. She is a lost and yet right in front of them. Not hesitating they call for Tamia and Gerald to come and take a look at this.
One of the researchers takes a check on her pulse to find nothing as if she was dead and refusing to wake up. Oh dear.
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If humanity survives will it need to change? It's changed so much since the old Imperium from what Ophelia has been told by her teachers. Hmmmm
If humanity were all to be psykers than they would all be susceptible to the warp..even though they already are. The warp can manifest when it wants to and attack at will. So shoudn't we all be psykers to blast those foul Daemons that deign to eat our souls? Oh but these are bad thoughts. Not everone likes psykers or me. Even though i'm absolutely fabulous like mother says.
No, Humanity is not ready to become 100% psykers but one day we might be. An it's up to the Telepathica to guide humanity there correctly. All will need to learn control and she must embody control where possible in order to succed for the Telepathica and Humanity. Yes.
I know my path.
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*Back in the real world*
"I see she takes up after you Tamia. What now?" Gerald says as Mittens goes to lick her face while in that trance. Cheeky tiger.
Tamia for her part punches Xavier and tells her that she'll be fine "she's just meditated herself into a trance. Nothing to be fearful or greater need than to just watch her like before."
The handlers seem to just look at her with a bemused face "but she has no soul! Only Aria can do that right?"
"No, she's supressing her soul involuntarily. She has no need for a soul as she looks deep inside herself. Beutiful really."
It is then that Ophelia opens her eyes to see Mittens licking her. Falling backwards and screaming "DAMNIT MITTENS!" she rubs her face from the saliva "EWWW! I need a shower now. EWW it's in my nose!" she whines. Mittens phases out of the room proud of himself as she turns around to see her parents and handlers.
"Um, Am i in trouble?"
Her parents nod there heads and Tamia speaks out "No dear, we were just worried about your ability to go into such a strong trance. Let's take you home after a shower."
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END
Omake - Inner Peace
The University is a place of learning, culture, and inner excellence. Music plays in the background and trainers practice what craft they feel they need to explore that day. To be honest althugh I finished my trials to become a psyker I feel lost. I no longer have a goal to work for like I had for so long and I do not know where life will take me next.
Mother said that she felt the same when she graduated and recomended to go mediate. I asked what should I think about and she replied 'that is for you to decide. There are no final answers except the very obvious.'
I sit alone now with my handlers to the side meditating on my life up until now. I have done what many wished they could and passed. I am eternally a servant of the Emperor destined for great things surely with my innate power. But my real talent is not in peacecraft but in pyromancy the ability to burn things into death and oblivion. So much so that it will never return as if I was censoring it from reality.
I stretch my legs to the side and raise my arms to the sky,er, roof and feel my body listen to me. I have still have control over it thankfully. Control that no one else may take from me for I am a daughter of the Emperor of Man. I love him and he loves me just like his Holiness says in his mass. My hands joined together go forward and I feel my body shake in retribution.
My body is not used to working in such a way but I decide that today is the day I try new things. It fights me again as my hands dive forward and my torso at around 45 degrees. I push again but my body cannot go forward and I am unable to complete my exercise today. Frustrating.
I release the stress on my body and forgive it's weakness for I know that it did try it's best. I am still whole and my body is still my own.
Next I focus on my breathing to reach inner peace and focus my mind on my greatest task yet. To discover myself fully and now that my body is tired my mind has no choice but to relent to my questions.
I must find truth. Hard truths that will never change no matter what happens...the first is simple really. One day I will die for example be it on the battlefields that I will visit, in my bed by a phase tigers, or maybe even in old age. It is a hard pill to swallow and I can feel whispers offering me an alternative. I categoriacally decline because my body and mind are my own.
I decide that I will make love to the world as my mother does. She is always happy and never long in a state of angst or hatred. She loves me and I love her. She sings and dances still an always takes me to her classes plays. She'll never give up on me and I will never give up on me either. It's why I made sure that my last name was Jameson afterall. I want to be happy too now that I think about it but do I want what she has?
~Ahh~
I know not. I love you mother may the Emperor bless you and father find the correct synapeses to make you happier.
I take a long breath and begin to think about father now. He frustrates me with his sneaking around to see what I am always doing but I know it's because he's worried about me. I considered to be part of his familly but I know that he is still unsure on how to be a father. I always feel guilt in him and I think I know why. Behind his back soldiers call him "The Manavik Matchstick". He hates war and the things he's done. I know his pain from losing students to war, the warp, the trials, betrayal, and more. He knows that one day, sometime soon even, that he will have to send me to fight and that I may lose my life. His regimen for training is very extreme and he makes it that way so that I can be the best that I can be. I work hard though so that I can live up to his expectations because quite frankly I want him to be happy like Mother. Like me?
~ahh~
Now that I think about it where do I stand in the world? I am considered a 'Elite Primaris Psyker' but I do not know where to use my power yet. To Discover or Destroy? Both are needed and will be needed? Am I to do both? Can I do both?
~ahh~
Questions upon questions. The quest of knowledge is not unique in this aspect I see. I will need to take more time.
*4 hours later*
The handlers in the room are at a loss for words. They can no longer feel her power or see her soul with her witch sight. She is a lost and yet right in front of them. Not hesitating they call for Tamia and Gerald to come and take a look at this.
One of the researchers takes a check on her pulse to find nothing as if she was dead and refusing to wake up. Oh dear.
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If humanity survives will it need to change? It's changed so much since the old Imperium from what Ophelia has been told by her teachers. Hmmmm
If humanity were all to be psykers than they would all be susceptible to the warp..even though they already are. The warp can manifest when it wants to and attack at will. So shoudn't we all be psykers to blast those foul Daemons that deign to eat our souls? Oh but these are bad thoughts. Not everone likes psykers or me. Even though i'm absolutely fabulous like mother says.
No, Humanity is not ready to become 100% psykers but one day we might be. An it's up to the Telepathica to guide humanity there correctly. All will need to learn control and she must embody control where possible in order to succed for the Telepathica and Humanity. Yes.
I know my path.
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*Back in the real world*
"I see she takes up after you Tamia. What now?" Gerald says as Mittens goes to lick her face while in that trance. Cheeky tiger.
Tamia for her part punches Xavier and tells her that she'll be fine "she's just meditated herself into a trance. Nothing to be fearful or greater need than to just watch her like before."
The handlers seem to just look at her with a bemused face "but she has no soul! Only Aria can do that right?"
"No, she's supressing her soul involuntarily. She has no need for a soul as she looks deep inside herself. Beutiful really."
It is then that Ophelia opens her eyes to see Mittens licking her. Falling backwards and screaming "DAMNIT MITTENS!" she rubs her face from the saliva "EWWW! I need a shower now. EWW it's in my nose!" she whines. Mittens phases out of the room proud of himself as she turns around to see her parents and handlers.
"Um, Am i in trouble?"
Her parents nod there heads and Tamia speaks out "No dear, we were just worried about your ability to go into such a strong trance. Let's take you home after a shower."
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- Location
- Brazil, Minas gerais
should we send some people to have a branch in Vanaheim since they have that trace in their blood? if so certainly with a sound-out because that place is a 'diplomancy' hell/heaven and the leader of that planet would need to know anyway.
Valkur
The True Valkyria, Valkur!
- Location
- Fólkvangr
Seeing as he leads the All-Thing he's going to have to ask them if there okay with having psykers on there stations. The conservatives will respond "why not just kill them" and the liberals will ask "can we put them on there own station with a self-destruct sequence?".
I would love to write about the debate on that.
notanautomaton
I've got 99 quests, I've finished one
[X] Plan Elder Haman Turn 90
To break the tie
To break the tie
- Location
- USA
[X] Plan Enjou T90
- Location
- Somewhere, Maybe
[X] Plan Elder Haman Turn 90
I have no idea what I'm voting for, but just to break the tie (again). ^^
I have no idea what I'm voting for, but just to break the tie (again). ^^
Well why not break it in the other direction then? To be fair.
But seriously, it'd be nice if you'd take the time to read over the plans and check to see if you'd prefer one over the other. A lot of work goes into making plans for this quest, so serious consideration is appreciated.