Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
I don't think anyone would be broken up about Skyrim being released earlier in the DF setting. It even goes a little bit toward making that reality a bit less awful.
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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- Crossover Fantasy
Nah I already edited it out... though I could have it so that Molly's anticipating it. One moment.
@DragonParadox how do the rules for manifesting a caste mark interact with BMI?
If we wanted to could we flip Molly's on while BMI dampens her hell aura?
Not totally sure if it's a good play now to cover our other conversation, but if we do eventually discuss exalted stuff with the Dragonblooded a soft reveal might go better than everything all at once.
If we wanted to could we flip Molly's on while BMI dampens her hell aura?
Not totally sure if it's a good play now to cover our other conversation, but if we do eventually discuss exalted stuff with the Dragonblooded a soft reveal might go better than everything all at once.
Flaring your caste mark would burn through BMI, it is the opposite of subtle.
I don't see how? Genuinely, could you explain what I am missing? It seems Odin was already aware of the dragon and what it held, and it's just the location that he doesn't know about.
We gave a price the dragonblooded where willing to pay to give him the location.
A price we are also interested in seeing paid, so it is forcing our hands in some ways.
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Before that, it seems negotiations were at a standstill, we gave Odin a great victory in it.
Ah, I see. Yeah, ok. I'm not sure if not revealing the information would have helped, and the Dragonblooded ought to be thankful for the information at least. I don't think we are that far behind Odin.
Odin wants to wake the dragon up, in order to negotiate for the exaltation. I am fairly confident that he at least isn't aware that the exaltation is powering the dragonblooded bloodline. I will even bet that the dragonblooded themselves aren't aware of that. Molly and the dragon are the only ones who know that and Molly is the only one with a chance to fix the situation, I think.
We gave Odin a win, I think, but we have hidden cards. We area also quite possibly going to be called on for the battle, thus getting Odin to use one of his favors.
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
Molly can potentially "fix" that situation with her craft. Molly's craft is Odin's craft if he calls in the favor. If Odin gets into negotiations with the dragon he'll probably end up being informed of what it's being used for. In that scenario Odin may get us to craft something else to do the job and gets the Exaltation as a reward.
Is everyone on the same page on this?
Also as outlined here Odin may already be aware of what it's doing for the dragon blooded.
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Basically this.
Our reveal was what made them move on this, and Odin is the one they just accepted a bid from for their assistance with the exaltation. Depending on how formal you want to be about it they all but made a pact selling the lunar shard to him in front of us. The supernatural doesn't operate on corporate contract law; a vast majority of exchanges are set exactly like this.
Which they would not have done if we hadn't voted to present an immediate threat of something worse going after the same target in front of the opposition without having a chance to make a whole pitch first in a private meeting.
If nothing else we could have made the same deal his reps just did before they set it out.
At the moment Odin is undeniably ahead of us and you can draw a straight line from our actions to his advantage. Our best hope right now is that the Dragonblooded will recant the agreement they just made before the payment is delivered on the basis of what we reveal, but we have no way of knowing what they're aware of or if it will shake out way.
We're playing poker with our cards face up on the table and acting surprised when start falling behind.
Actually... I remember us owing him several battles. Do we also owe him a splendor of his choosing? I honestly am not sure. It has been quite some time.
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
We owe him a splendor of his choosing and Molly and Lydia owe him a battle of his choosing. It's a combined battle favor so if he calls it in Molly and Lydia both participate. We mentioned this earlier. In exchange for Nergui working with us he got the crafting favor.
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Ok, yeah. Not sure how to salvage the situation here. Call in the Arthurian knights maybe? Or hope the dragon likes us more than Odin.
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
All I can think of is to leverage what we know we have right now.
-The Dragon's exact location
-The ability to teleport through water making travel time non-existent.
So I guess we have the option of meeting the Dragon first and trying to sort this out before Odin or his people reach him.
Doing so would be pretty obvious to Odin at this point however so it depends on how much worth you assign to relations with him. I won't say that securing it before he does would burn a bridge exactly but in the very least being obvious about "sniping it from under Odin's nose" as Uju put it earlier would strain our relations so like I said choosing to do doing it this way or not depends on how much you value it.
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
Oh and, looking back over Molly's final thought, Odin may have fucked up by not telling these people that the item is keeping their bloodline viable so maybe we could ruin relations with Odin and the dragon blooded here by talking to them without the Valkyrie around. That's dependent on him not having informed them of this which is possible.
We don't know if the dragonblooded or Odin know that the exaltation (or whatever else is inside the dragon's belly) is powering their bloodline. There's a bit of hope that they don't. If they do, there's a hope that we can't just make a splendor to replace the exaltation. It might take at least a manse to replace the effect. We should try to get more information.
We should have either gone directly for Evil Bob, or, yes, my mistake, separated the dragonblooded elder from the Valkyrie. Or brought in Arthurian knights with us.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
It's not secret by now that we have ridiculous levels of Divination / information gathering Intellectus. Now would be a good time to lie, as opposed to earlier, since we can present the information in a manner which we cannot really be proven to have known about earlier. It would be a Revelation rather than the results of an investigation.
Something like:
Molly tilts her head back and allows her eyes to flutter rapidly. "Ah, I see it now. There is a dragon nearby. How strange...it appears the dragon, despite its ages long slumber, is even now reaching out to keep the flames of power burning in the veins of the dragonblooded. You might wish to reconsider the ramifications of rousing the dragon."
Something like:
Molly tilts her head back and allows her eyes to flutter rapidly. "Ah, I see it now. There is a dragon nearby. How strange...it appears the dragon, despite its ages long slumber, is even now reaching out to keep the flames of power burning in the veins of the dragonblooded. You might wish to reconsider the ramifications of rousing the dragon."
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
No. Redirecting earlier was a perfectly viable course of action. Odin isn't just going to assume that we know everything and his skills of deduction are limited as indicated by the fact that he's a member of the Grey Council and the White Council still had rats out the ass anyway.
That said while doing as you suggest here could help I don't see how it solves the issue of us trying to secure it before Odin when they know we know that he's after it now.
So, it occurs to me - Odin both sent the Kingfisher and a valkyrie to the Draonblooded. Two pronged approach, yes. But would dragonblooded appreciate that he's also trawling for the dragon with a ship? It's basically he who led the enemy to them in a way, as I understand it (unless I am too sleep deprived and misunderstanding the situation). So, we should probably talk to the dragonblooded elder.
Before anything else we need to have a private conversation with the Dragonblooded. Trying to play this game directly in front of a Valkyrie is what got us in trouble here. If we'd made any attempts to speak with them alone we might have been the ones they offered to help contact the dragon in exchange for killing someone we want dead anyway.
If we're lucky we can step to the side and go over what we know about the importance of the exaltation and offer another deal, one where we're favored because we can offer everything he can but also know enough to avoid serious pitfalls. After all, either Odin did know and didn't care or he didn't know and you're trusting someone who's demonstrably failed to manage a serious risk to them.
If we're unlucky and they already know the score stepping to the side to warn them about the consequences of taking the exaltation away can still be framed as legitimate concern for them and the conversation can be turned to other business.
Step one is to stop compounding our mistakes. If we're going to give Odin information and an opportunity to act on it then we should concede the point entirely and get paid for our help.
If we're lucky we can step to the side and go over what we know about the importance of the exaltation and offer another deal, one where we're favored because we can offer everything he can but also know enough to avoid serious pitfalls. After all, either Odin did know and didn't care or he didn't know and you're trusting someone who's demonstrably failed to manage a serious risk to them.
If we're unlucky and they already know the score stepping to the side to warn them about the consequences of taking the exaltation away can still be framed as legitimate concern for them and the conversation can be turned to other business.
Step one is to stop compounding our mistakes. If we're going to give Odin information and an opportunity to act on it then we should concede the point entirely and get paid for our help.
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
That was BronzeTongue's vote during the last vote. Just saying, this was the proposed course of action. I'm pretty frustrated by not having enough time to reiterate previously stated facts and then when I was here at the tail end I wasted time talking about the portal again. I figured it'd be an issue later but I didn't have the motivation or time to tell the same people the same things.
[X] Ask to speak to one of the parties individually
-[X] Ragnhildur