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Attempting to Fulfill the Plan: GDI Edition

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[X] Tiberium Control Network Effect
[X] Subordination of the Brotherhood of Nod
[X] Truth and Reconciliation
 
Ithillid said:
[ ] Subordination of the Brotherhood of Nod
While GDI and the Brotherhood will have to work together to build the Tiberium Control Network, the nature of that relationship is one that will have to be decided. Subordinating the Brotherhood into Initiative structures will make few people happy, but it will mean that an outbreak of conflict will be much more difficult in the aftermath of the Tiberium Control Network being completed.
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Is this a permanent arrangement? Does it encompass all of Nod? Or is it only in effect for the time it takes to build the TCN, and only for those parts of Nod that will be assisting us in building it?
 
[X] Tiberium Control Network Effect
[X] Technology Exchange
[X] Truth and Reconciliation

Will there be a sequel quest where these choices have an effect?
 
[X] Tiberium Control Network Effect
[X] Technology Exchange
[X] Construction Share Ratio
Is this the easiest sequel quest option, doubtful. IMO this is the most fun sequel quest option.
 
[X] Tiberium Control Network Effect
[X] Technology Exchange
[X] Truth and Reconciliation

Put Kane on trial and then sentence him to exile giving both Kane and those who want him to be put trial what they want, and then just for the fun of it when we meet the Citadel races go to their courts and get a restraining order against him so that he has to stay at least ten light years away from any humans.
 
[X] Tiberium Control Network Effect
[X] Construction Share Ratio
[X] Truth and Reconciliation
[X] Technology Exchange
 
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Emote Control said:
Will there be a sequel quest where these choices have an effect?
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It is intended that there is a sequel quest where these choices have an effect.

However, we have not seen the last of this quest, there's still a couple more epilogue posts to go.

[X] Tiberium Control Network Effect
[X] Subordination of the Brotherhood of Nod
[X] Truth and Reconciliation
[X] Technology Exchange


What? The only one I'm not interested in having is 'make Nod do more of the industrial work'.
 
[X] Tiberium Control Network Effect
[X] Subordination of the Brotherhood of Nod
[X] Truth and Reconciliation

I want a united humanity more than an advanced tech base.
 
[X] Tiberium Control Network Effect
[X] Subordination of the Brotherhood of Nod
[X] Truth and Reconciliation

To me, it feels like the entire quest has been building up to this, ever since the first turns when the players started massively redistributing the wealth of the blue zones to rescue as many people in the Yellow Zones as possible , even while dealing with an economic and ecological collapse.
 
[X] Subordination of the Brotherhood of Nod
[X] Truth and Reconciliation
[X] Tiberium Control Network Effect

You know what's infinitely more valuable than NOD's technologies? A future where GDI doesn't have to waste resources hedging against NOD attacks. Where NOD and GDI can both build plowshares rather than swords. A world where NOD and GDI are united in common cause is a world where technology can potentially be shared and exchanged willingly for shared benefit rather than exacted as a price for peace. And yes, I will demand subordination of various warlord states to the largest and most successful democracy in human history as a natural and inherent part of that process. GDI isn't completely innocent, but its very nature offers a path towards cooexistence that various warlords, whose regimes inherently rely on patronage, and monopolies on resources and naked force don't. We know the Brotherhood can exist in side the framework of GDI- we've seen that with the various NOD defectors running on that very platform.

There will be problems, but there will be problems regardless, and the subordination of nuclear strongmen to a democracy in which their citizens are a strong constituency is infinitely preferable than the use of force. Let NOD fight GDI with ballots rather than bombs if need be, but letting NOD's political leadership remain in power on the basis of the force they can wield is going to create a scenario where said leadership resorts to force.

Demanding technologies before a lasting peace is letting technophilia rule for the sake of technophilia.
 
[X] Tiberium Control Network Effect
[X] Truth and Reconciliation
[X] Technology Exchange

I'm all for clearing up the bad blood, but I refuse to tell Kane to force his people to join us when I am reasonably certain that by the time the next quest begins we will be trying for that integration with (hopefully) decades of peace between us.
 
@Ithillid if we choose Subordination, will that actually unify everyone under GDI? How will it actually work?

Also, can you clarify what kind of tech GDI would get in the tech exchange option?
 
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aceraptor said:
@Ithillid if we choose Subordination, will that actually unify everyone under GDI? How will it actually work?
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Everyone, not quite, but effectively. As for how it will actually work, there are a lot of details that I will need to write, more than I have spoons to answer at the moment.

aceraptor said:
Also, can you clarify what kind of tech GDI would get in the tech exchange option?
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Tech exchange would be Tacitus techs, because I want to make use of that tech chart.
 
[X] Subordination of the Brotherhood of Nod
[X] Technology Exchange
[X] Truth and Reconciliation

I'd rather Humanity separate itself from the green cancer that sought to consume its cradle
 
Shadows said:
[X] Tiberium Control Network Effect
[X] Truth and Reconciliation
[X] Technology Exchange

I'm all for clearing up the bad blood, but I refuse to tell Kane to force his people to join us when I am reasonably certain that by the time the next quest begins we will be trying for that integration with (hopefully) decades of peace between us.
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I'm struggling to imagine how Kane endorsing unification ends with a messier and more problematic unification than just crossing our fingers and praying no warlord makes a poor choice in the face of the erosion of their legitimacy and power base.

Theres a reason major NOD figures are described as Warlords. Their political authority is rooted in their ability to mobilize a capable military. How challenged is that authority going to be by peace? As channels of diplomacy, communication, and trade open that a warlord is increasingly going to struggle to monopolize and distribute to those in his favor as a way of building loyalty? You have got to give NOD an off-ramp out of warlordism if you want peace, because otherwise we are gambling on people in power on the basis of their military, who are predisposed to think in terms of military, to solve problems with military solutions, willingly decoupling their regime's policy from military matters and abstaining from using their military to achieve their aims.

This high minded rhetoric is nice, but it's meaningless. It doesn't acknowledge the issues everybody needs to resolve in order to achieve peace in favor of just assuming it'll happen. Peace is *hard*, it's something that needs to be worked at and fought for, we need to give NOD a means of fighting for a peace they can live with besides military means. Assuming peace will just miraculously assume is just reckless.

This is not imperialism, this is not naked subjugation. It's demanding some kind of Reconstruction so the issues can be fought on a campaign trail rather than with military campaigns.
 
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