Sterbelicht - One Sacrifice At A Time Against The Galaxy (40K)

What should your focus for the rest of the Quest be?

  • Mercy (Diplomacy and Expansion)

    Votes: 228 74.8%

  • Ruthlessness (Kick the Duchy in the Balls)

    Votes: 69 22.6%

  • Thule (Yeeni Handholding and Piscarian Cuddling)

    Votes: 118 38.7%
  • Total voters
    305
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10ebbor10 said:
Huh, I assumed the atmosphere would be so thin/deprived of hydrogen, that it features no meaningful defraction of light.
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I've changed it to Owl's description because it is 2000% cooler.
DecaffeinatedOwl said:
Sure. Mycelium makes for decent fabric already, and no doubt the Irritta can do better biomaterials than us. They could make something like a vacuum-adapted lichen that covers the planet in a thin, translucent skin of living cloth, then pump a breathable atmosphere underneath to buoyantly support the new planetary balloon. Maybe also with large root-stalks to anchor the dome and extract nutrients to feed the balloon-cloth.

Though I suspect the resulting ecosystem would have more in common with the deep ocean than surface living. There would be 'marine snow' from dead bits of the cloth flaking off, for instance.
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*name* said:
Hmm . . . If certain planets are inferior to space stations, are any of the planets have certain resources to exploit?
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Yes. They are planets after all. They have oodles of stuff you can exploit, not to mention will boost your overall economy/Action efficiency far more than the space stations will.
sunrise said:
@HeroCooky
what is the largest version of these equipments that can be fitted on a light freighter?
Titanic Civilian Transportation Hold - Enough space and Life Support Systems to transport one-hundred million souls through the Warp. Neither comfortable nor luxurious, but better than dying. Includes many shuttle bays and oversized transportation craft with their own loading facilities to facilitate smooth emergency evacuations.
Titanic Emergency Relief Cargo Holds - Holds everything a population of a billion experiencing a natural or artificial disaster may need to survive. For a short time. A month, at most.
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You can put all on them, but they won't be as efficient as doing other stuff. Light Freighters are for diversity, Heavies for specialization.
DecaffeinatedOwl said:
That reminds me.

@HeroCooky , do the Iritta have Dyson Trees, or something similiar? Basically a vacuum-adapted tree that grows out of a comet, making a living space habitat.
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...they do now.
Weaving_Dreamer said:
Would this affect how many SAG's a planet is able to raise to met their 2 percent requirement?
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Not for that level, but the one after 100%. Also allows more costly stuff to be wielded by more people, so there is that.
Weaving_Dreamer said:
I've heard it mentioned but how the hell would that happen? I hear Venus being a possibility but don't know how it is. Is it because of the fine sands on mars being harder to deal with then the gases of Venus?
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Weaving_Dreamer said:
The idea of the Large Root Stalks growing out and anchoring the things would be a sight to see.
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Ye. I imagine it'll look like the various times in the Souls/Bloodborne/Elden Ring games where you see these massive expanses of trees stretching into the heavens where they vanish in fog. The Ash Lake, basically.
 
That 100 billion and 200 years long planet is juicy
Is esentially a small hiveworld


The 50 billion and 120 years is a good contender as well
 
Yeah, we definitely want that 100 billion/200 year project, even if it won't be ready in time for the Crisis. It's just so fucking good

What system is that one in anyway @HeroCooky ?
 
Do note that, though we are backlogged, we can just hit the planets after the fact. Next turn just take another action if we are truly that, shall we say, greedy
 
Weaving_Dreamer said:
Just pray this place is never attacked by.... really anyone. This ecosystem is really fragile to damage from the Tyrnaids, Orks, and Chaos. Also damage from the Imperium.
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There's ways to mitigate the risks, at least against large impactors or weapons fire. Buoyant support means that breaking root stalks doesn't cause the balloon to collapse, although it would put it at risk from weather events inside. The cloth can be multilayered, like a Whipple shield, and self repairs small holes over time. Large holes may induce nearby root stalks to draw the cloth to the ground, sealing it against the Earth while the cloth regrows the hole, then slowly letting it back up again as more cloth is grown in.

It's always going to be more fragile than a 'conventional' Gaia world, but not that much more. Certainly better than any one space habitat.

CryBryNry said:
I'm really liking the idea of the Child Moth people. The fact that they're so short makes it even better. Could you image? Some knee high alien, who is a legendary warrior of their people yelling at a soldier? Would so cute.

Moth Warrior: "I am Sha-qrew, mighty slayer of Ash-te'kree! Be felled by my spear of Tre-sko!"
Star Trooper: 'Oh my star child he's so adorable! I wanna pick him up and baby him!'
Moth Warrior: "-Are you even listening to me- whoa HEY! PUT ME DOWN! I AM VENGENCE! I AM THE NIGHT!"
Star Trooper: "heh heh heh. Baby man. Little baby man."
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I don't know which is funnier: a Big Man warrior being treated as harmless because s/he's so smol....

...or the idea that, like chihuahuas, being smaller just means they evolved to be more aggressive to deter larger predators. Being picked up means you get shanked as the mothman struggles desperately to not get eaten.
 
The Mothomes are roughly around 1 meter in height. Regular 40k humanity is generally around the margins of 6ft due to natural evolution. Image their first time encounter with Ogryns or the Lamenters. They would be utterly dwarfed by creatures over three times taller if not heavier.
 
You know the funny thing?
If this is what the Irrita can do, more than one of the Major Powers of the galaxy would have benefitted immensely from making deals with them - just regularly hiring them for their terraformation services.
But no-one does, because almost no-one is Iconoclast. And I gotta wonder how many thousands, millions such missed opportunities have occurred across the galaxy in the past 11,000 years.
 
700 billion people...if we do terraform we are gonna have to keep those planets empty...mind you by the time this cooks off we will probably be in the middle of terraforming but...neither here nor there. Maphra is probably the best bet for the longer term I will say.

Edit: The QM is working under the impression that 50% of the planet is going to die and frankly...that's probably what's gonna happen but even so we must aim for the stars
 
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HeroCooky said:
Not for that level, but the one after 100%. Also allows more costly stuff to be wielded by more people, so there is that.
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Ah another one of the 'more worthwhile stuff is locked behind this tech, you just gotta start the tech and eat the action cost'. Hopefully we'll get there one day. It would be costly Research Action wise but it would up the SAG's the planets generate without us needing to do action for it.

HeroCooky said:
Ye. I imagine it'll look like the various times in the Souls/Bloodborne/Elden Ring games where you see these massive expanses of trees stretching into the heavens where they vanish in fog. The Ash Lake, basically.
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Okay that looks fucking awesome and would be a great place for battles to happen and be great setting for a story where the entire planet is like that. What kind of SAG's would a planet like this make? Hell an fanmade Imperial Guard Regiment from this world sounds like the thing that could become a fan favorite.

DecaffeinatedOwl said:
There's ways to mitigate the risks, at least against large impactors or weapons fire. Buoyant support means that breaking root stalks doesn't cause the balloon to collapse, although it would put it at risk from weather events inside. The cloth can be multilayered, like a Whipple shield, and self repairs small holes over time. Large holes may induce nearby root stalks to draw the cloth to the ground, sealing it against the Earth while the cloth regrows the hole, then slowly letting it back up again as more cloth is grown in.

It's always going to be more fragile than a 'conventional' Gaia world, but not that much more. Certainly better than any one space habitat.
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I mean if we can make the mushrooms and fungi do that? then sure that'd be all fine and would help mitigate a lot and gives it some leeway, still worried about the Ork Spores would affect things and the tyranids harvesting everything while fighting.
 
Neablis said:
I agree - but the prize is worth it. We'll want it even if we've already had to deal with the hive. Let's get it ticking asap, then start the shorter-time horizon worlds in the meantime.

It's awesome to get this, it's basically a way to grow tall without growing wide, increasing our population & productive capability without increasing our surface area and thus defensive perimeter.
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Yeah, those two worlds are the ones most important to grab ASAP. Even if they aren't ready when the Revolution happens, keep in mind it's not going to be a quick or easy affair with it likely taking at least 50 years to try pacifying it completely.
sun tzu said:
You know the funny thing?
If this is what the Irrita can do, more than one of the Major Powers of the galaxy would have benefitted immensely from making deals with them - just regularly hiring them for their terraformation services.
But no-one does, because almost no-one is Iconoclast. And I gotta wonder how many thousands, millions such missed opportunities have occurred across the galaxy in the past 11,000 years.
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I think you could see some Iconclast in the Shipwright's Alliance and the Ashan Families*. It's just we are the only ones that went full hog into Iconoclasm

*Iconoclast doesn't necessarily mean nice
 
HeroCooky said:
You can put all on them, but they won't be as efficient as doing other stuff. Light Freighters are for diversity, Heavies for specialization.
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As the larger ones hold more souls per DP(the largest hold 6,66 more souls per DP) and we can build 8 light freighters(8*25 DP) for the cost of one heavy(45DP)

Medium Civilian Transportation Hold - Enough space and Life Support Systems to transport Five million souls through the Warp. Neither comfortable nor luxurious, but better than dying. Includes shuttles and transportation craft to facilitate smooth boarding.(5 DP, 1 million per DP)
Large Civilian Transportation Hold - Enough space and Life Support Systems to transport Twenty million souls through the Warp. Neither comfortable nor luxurious, but better than dying. Includes shuttle bays and bulky transportation craft to facilitate smooth boarding.(9 DP, 2,22 million per DP )
Titanic Civilian Transportation Hold - Enough space and Life Support Systems to transport one-hundred million souls through the Warp. Neither comfortable nor luxurious, but better than dying. Includes many shuttle bays and oversized transportation craft with their own loading facilities to facilitate smooth emergency evacuations.(15 DP, 6,66 million per DP)

This result in a heavy freighter with 3 Titanic Civilian Transportation Hold = 300 million in total
8 light freighters with 1 Titanic Civilian Transportation hold: each hold 100 = 800 million in total
8 light freighters with 2 Large Civilian Transportation hold: each hold 40 = 320 million in total
8 light freighters with 5 Medium Civilian Transportation hold: each hold 25 = 200 million in total

So can a light freighters use Titanic Civilian Transportation hold, Large Civilian Transportation hold or only the Medium Civilian Transportation hold?
Added later:8 light freighters will have one less hold as one of them needs to carry a FTL drive
 
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sunrise said:
As the larger ones hold more souls per DP(the largest hold 6,66 more souls per DP) and we can build 8 light freighters(8*25 DP) for the cost of one heavy(45DP)

Medium Civilian Transportation Hold - Enough space and Life Support Systems to transport Five million souls through the Warp. Neither comfortable nor luxurious, but better than dying. Includes shuttles and transportation craft to facilitate smooth boarding.(5 DP, 1 million per DP)
Large Civilian Transportation Hold - Enough space and Life Support Systems to transport Twenty million souls through the Warp. Neither comfortable nor luxurious, but better than dying. Includes shuttle bays and bulky transportation craft to facilitate smooth boarding.(9 DP, 2,22 million per DP )
Titanic Civilian Transportation Hold - Enough space and Life Support Systems to transport one-hundred million souls through the Warp. Neither comfortable nor luxurious, but better than dying. Includes many shuttle bays and oversized transportation craft with their own loading facilities to facilitate smooth emergency evacuations.(15 DP, 6,66 million per DP)

This result in a heavy freighter with 3 Titanic Civilian Transportation Hold = 300 million in total
8 light freighters with 1 Titanic Civilian Transportation hold: each hold 100 = 800 million in total
8 light freighters with 2 Large Civilian Transportation hold: each hold 40 = 320 million in total
8 light freighters with 5 Medium Civilian Transportation hold: each hold 25 = 200 million in total

So can a light freighters use Titanic Civilian Transportation hold, Large Civilian Transportation hold or only the Medium Civilian Transportation hold?
Added later:8 light freighters will have one less hold as one of them needs to carry a FTL drive
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I mean, it literally says Titanic Civilian Transport, that's very obviously not in the cards. Even Large (let alone two large) seems pretty iffy, honestly, considering the space constraints.
 
Neablis said:
Yeah, it's almost like I wrote a couple good Omakes establishing them as master terraformers and a responsible & generous people. I'm also angling to have a number of them join us, hopefully growing into a kin race eventually.
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Yes! We need a population of all the cute species!
CryBryNry said:
I'm really liking the idea of the Child Moth people. The fact that they're so short makes it even better. Could you image? Some knee high alien, who is a legendary warrior of their people yelling at a soldier? Would so cute.

Moth Warrior: "I am Sha-qrew, mighty slayer of Ash-te'kree! Be felled by my spear of Tre-sko!"
Star Trooper: 'Oh my star child he's so adorable! I wanna pick him up and baby him!'
Moth Warrior: "-Are you even listening to me- whoa HEY! PUT ME DOWN! I AM VENGENCE! I AM THE NIGHT!"
Star Trooper: "heh heh heh. Baby man. Little baby man."
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We need them!

Just imagine the interaction between a group of Moth Warriors and a Yeeni Gothband.
 
[X] Maphara - (Target Biosphere: Tepui and Cenote) - (Maximum Population: 101 Billion) - (Terraformation Time: ~200 Years)

Let's get this population sink ticking!
 
[X] Maphara - (Target Biosphere: Tepui and Cenote) - (Maximum Population: 101 Billion) - (Terraformation Time: ~200 Years)
 
[X] Maphara - (Target Biosphere: Tepui and Cenote) - (Maximum Population: 101 Billion) - (Terraformation Time: ~200 Years)
 
[X] Maphara - (Target Biosphere: Tepui and Cenote) - (Maximum Population: 101 Billion) - (Terraformation Time: ~200 Years)
[X] Howling Gale - (Target Biosphere: Black-Sky Myconoid) - (Maximum Population: 50 Billion) - (Terraformation Time: ~120 Years)
 
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[X] Howling Gale - (Target Biosphere: Black-Sky Myconoid) - (Maximum Population: 50 Billion) - (Terraformation Time: ~120 Years)

Thanks for the info about the ships as hope we are going to design some next turn.
 
[X] Howling Gale - (Target Biosphere: Black-Sky Myconoid) - (Maximum Population: 50 Billion) - (Terraformation Time: ~120 Years)

I'm perfectly fine with voting for Maphara next turn, but we cannot rely on a planet that won't be ready before two whole centuries.
 
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