Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

Azais said:

You said this yesterday but you launched an interlude today, are you still going to close the vote today or will you give more time? New plans should not appear now.

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There are still some changes to plans being made so I'm going to leave that for tomorrow.

DragonParadox said:

It wast about

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Wasn't.

So, on pursuing the ability to enlighten people (in the sense of awakening their essence). What are the actual benefits of such? We have discussed it a lot, but I don't actually remember what it would give someone. Access to supernatural martial arts, I am fairly certain, but is that all?

Yog said:

So, on pursuing the ability to enlighten people (in the sense of awakening their essence). What are the actual benefits of such? We have discussed it a lot, but I don't actually remember what it would give someone. Access to supernatural martial arts, I am fairly certain, but is that all?

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There is no default answer for WoD.

I'd think that at least people would be capable of subbing in Essence for Chi or Mana if they have Martial Arts or Sorcery, but even that is just homebrew.
Speaking of, I made a homebrew of that ages ago in the thread:

Yog said:

So, on pursuing the ability to enlighten people (in the sense of awakening their essence). What are the actual benefits of such? We have discussed it a lot, but I don't actually remember what it would give someone. Access to supernatural martial arts, I am fairly certain, but is that all?

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From what Molly understands right now having not looked into it at all she can intuit two broad advantages

1. Internal: it would allow the person to empower themselves past mortal limitations while remaining mortal, shih arts on overdrive (Terrestrial Martial Arts)
2. External: It might give access to some ancient sorcery (she does not know the term but the Terrestrial spells)
3. Sponsorship: It would make sponsored magic a lot easier for the mortal since spirits and gods could attempt to teach an Awakened mortal charms as they know it rather than filter it down to the way the mortal sees the world

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QUESTION
Does a clone in Sanctuary have access to Lord of the Land?
Or is that an original Molly thing only?

uju32 said:

@DragonParadox
QUESTION
Does a clone in Sanctuary have access to Lord of the Land?
Or is that an original Molly thing only?

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I would argue that they shouldn't. They should probably get feedback of some kind, but not the command authority - only one Molly is wearing the crown after all.

uju32 said:

@DragonParadox
QUESTION
Does a clone in Sanctuary have access to Lord of the Land?
Or is that an original Molly thing only?

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Original Molly thing only, in the context of the World Body she is the Third Circle.

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I would argue that they shouldn't. They should probably get feedback of some kind, but not the command authority - only one Molly is wearing the crown after all.

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No issue with me.
Im asking because I was about to put up two more clone builds, and the Regent of Sanctuary one needs to know so I could decide whether to give it the gift Territory to keep tabs on the entire place.

DragonParadox said:

Original Molly thing only, in the context of the World Body she is the Third Circle.

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Fair.
So Territory goes on that build.
Update in five to ten minutes, after I clean everything up.

Lots of plans for Polly, but so far I think @uju32 is the only one who actually explained what all the bits and bobs of each plan amount.

Any chance the rest of y'all can summarize the effects of your plans as well?

EDIT: Looking at the plans, it seems @Degorium is the author of most of them. Could you break down what each of them adds up to, dude?

Actual vote as you missed one, the V2

Updated draft with two new clone models
One is designed to look after Sanctuary, the other is meant to be a guardian with combat ability
That makes 3.

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Source:
W20. W20 Book of the Wyrm. W20 Book of the Wyrm Companion.
M20 Gods and Monsters. Mage Revised. Wyrmfoe
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VOTE
[X]Plan Newborn Scholar
-[X][Power]Unholy Blessing
-[X][Power]Unholy Blessing
-[X][Power]Mega-Attribute: Perception
-[X][Power]Mega-Attribute: Wits
-[X][Power]Armored Skin
-[X][Power]Numbing
-[X][Power]Corpse Hide
-[X][Power]Disguise
-[X][Power]Sense The Unnatural
-[X][Power]Bestial Mutation
-[X][Power]Enhanced Bestial Mutation
--[X][Standby Power]Sirens Veil
--[X][Bestial Power]Exoskeleton
-[X][Power] Enhanced Super-Beast Mode: Intelligence 3, Dexterity 2
-[X][Power] Wicked Weapons of Malfeas: Hideous Breath
-[X][Power] Extra Speed
-[X][Power] Twisted Gifts
-[X][Power] Greater Gifts of Malfeas
-[X][Gift] Cybersenses(Glass Walker 1)
-[X][Gift] Apecraft's Blessings(Homid 1)
-[X][Gift] Plug and Play(Glass Walker 1)
-[X][Gift] Touch of the Muse(Black Fury 2)
-[X][Gift] Grandmother's Touch(Children of Gaia 2)
-[X][Gift] Coils of the Serpent(Uktena 2/Bunyip 2/W20)
-[X][Gift] Strength of Purpose(Philodox 2/Croatan 2/ Get of Fenris 2)
-[X][Gift] Pain Chain(Children of Gaia 3)
-[X][Gift] Universal Interface(Glass Walker 3)
-[X][Gift] Barring The Will(Black Furies 3)
-[X][Gift] Pulse of the Invisible(Theurge 3/Bunyip 3)
-[X][Gift] Mental Speech (Metis 3/Philodox 3)
-[X][Gift] Adaptation(Silent Strider 3)
-[X][Gift] Speech of All Things(Children of Gaia 3)
-[X][Gift] Trust of Gaia (Children of Gaia 5)
-[X][Gift] Assimilation (Homid 5/W20)
-[X][Gift] Harmonious Unity of the Emerald Mother (Stargazer 5/W20)
-[X][Gift] Break The Bonds(Galliard 6/Philodox 6/W20)
-[X][Gift] Home In All Lands (Red Talons 6)
-[X][Merit][Special Advantage] Soak Aggravated Damage: 2 (after discount)
-[X][Merit] Ability Aptitude: Occult: 1
-[X][Merit] Eidetic Memory: 2

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RATIONALE
35 points of powers+Gifts
5 points of Merits

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NEWBORN SCHOLAR STAT BLOCK
-4DC to activate powers + gifts
-2DC to soak

+3HLs
+3 Perception, +3 Wits, +3 Stamina, +1 Dex, +4 Strength
+5 Stamina, +4 Dex, +5 Strength, +3 Intelligence and Appearance 0 when Bestial Mutation is active
+2 Charisma, +2 Appearance, +2 Manipulation when Siren's Veil is active

+1 Action/turn
X1.5 Speed


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[X]Plan Newborn Regent of Sanctuary
-[X][Power]Unholy Blessing
-[X][Power]Unholy Blessing
-[X][Power]Mega-Attribute: Perception
-[X][Power]Mega-Attribute: Charisma
-[X][Power]Mega-Attribute: Manipulation
-[X][Power]Armored Skin
-[X][Power]Numbing
-[X][Power]Corpse Hide
-[X][Power]Disguise
-[X][Power]Bestial Mutation
-[X][Power]Enhanced Bestial Mutation
--[X][Standby Power]Sirens Veil
--[X][Bestial Power]Exoskeleton
-[X][Power] Enhanced Super-Beast Mode: Intelligence 2, Wits 3
-[X][Power] Extra Speed
-[X][Power] Twisted Gifts
-[X][Power] Greater Gifts of Malfeas
-[X][Power] Font of Evil Will
-[X][Gift] Sense of The Transformation (Planetary 1/Meros)
-[X][Gift] Truth of Gaia (Philodox 1)
-[X][Gift] Apecraft's Blessings(Homid 1)
-[X][Gift] Touch of the Muse(Black Fury 2)
-[X][Gift] Grandmother's Touch(Children of Gaia 2)
-[X][Gift] Strength of Purpose(Philodox 2/Croatan 2/ Get of Fenris 2)
-[X][Gift] Mental Speech (Metis 3/Philodox 3)
-[X][Gift] Adaptation(Silent Strider 3)
-[X][Gift] Sense The Unnatural(Lupus 2/Fianna 3)
-[X][Gift] Territory (Red Talon 3/ White Howler 3)
-[X][Gift] Ease The Fevered Mind(Gurahl 3)
-[X][Gift] Reality's Path(Philodox 4)
-[X][Gift] Secret of Gaia(Silver Fangs 5)
-[X][Gift] Trust of Gaia (Children of Gaia 5)
-[X][Gift] Assimilation (Homid 5/W20)
-[X][Gift] Ubermensch/Beyond Human(Homid 5)
-[X][Gift] Harmonious Unity of the Emerald Mother (Stargazer 5/W20)
-[X][Gift] Break The Bonds(Galliard 6/Philodox 6/W20)
-[X][Gift] Home In All Lands (Red Talons 6)
-[X][Merit][Special Advantage] Soak Aggravated Damage: 2 (after discount)
-[X][Merit] Ability Aptitude: Occult: 1
-[X][Merit] Eidetic Memory: 2


REGENT STAT BLOCK
-4DC to activate powers + gifts
-2DC to soak

+3HLs
+3 Stamina, +1 Dexterity, +4 Strength, +3 Perception, +3 Charisma, +3 Manipulation
+5 Stamina, +2 Dexterity, +5 Strength, +2 Intelligence, +3 Wits and Appearance 0 when Bestial Mutation is active
+2 Charisma, +2 Appearance, +2 Manipulation when Siren's Veil is active

+5 Willpower(that can only be used for activating Gifts)
+1 Action/turn
x1.5 Speed


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[X]Plan Newborn Protector
-[X][Power]Unholy Blessing
-[X][Power]Unholy Blessing
-[X][Power]Mega-Attribute: Perception
-[X][Power]Mega-Attribute: Dexterity
-[X][Power]Mega-Attribute: Wits
-[X][Power]Armored Skin
-[X][Power]Numbing
-[X][Power]Corpse Hide
-[X][Power]Disguise
-[X][Power]Bestial Mutation
-[X][Power]Enhanced Bestial Mutation
--[X][Standby Power]Sirens Veil
--[X][Bestial Power]Exoskeleton
-[X][Power] Enhanced Super-Beast Mode: Intelligence 2, Dexterity 3
-[X][Power] Extra Speed
-[X][Power] Twisted Gifts
-[X][Power] Greater Gifts of Malfeas
-[X][Power] Font of Evil Will
-[X][Gift] Speed of the Messenger (Planetary 1/Mitanu)
-[X][Gift] Apecraft's Blessings(Homid 1)
-[X][Gift] Sense of the Prey/Pulse of the Prey (Ragabash 2/Black Furies 2/Red Talon 2/Silent Striders 2/Get of Fenris 2)
-[X][Gift] Strength of Purpose(Philodox 2/Croatan 2/ Get of Fenris 2)
-[X][Gift] Mental Speech (Metis 3/Philodox 3)
-[X][Gift] Adaptation(Silent Strider 3)
-[X][Gift] Rending The Craft (Uktena 3)
-[X][Gift] Sense The Unnatural(Lupus 2/Fianna 3)
-[X][Gift] Attunement(Bone Gnawers 4/Glass Walker 4/ Silent Strider 4/Uktena 4)
-[X][Gift] Ignore Deathblow/Sidestep Death(Silver Fang 4)
-[X][Gift] Aegis(Ahroun 5)
-[X][Gift] Invoke The Spirits of the Storm (Wendigo 5/Bunyip 5)
-[X][Gift] Secret of Gaia(Silver Fangs 5)
-[X][Gift] Assimilation (Homid 5/W20)
-[X][Gift] Endurance of Heimhall (Get of Fenris 5)
-[X][Gift] Howl of Healing (White Howler 5)
-[X][Gift] Harmonious Unity of the Emerald Mother (Stargazer 5/W20)
-[X][Gift] Break The Bonds(Galliard 6/Philodox 6/W20)
-[X][Gift] Home In All Lands (Red Talons 6)
-[X][Merit][Special Advantage] Soak Aggravated Damage: 2 (after discount)
-[X][Merit] Ability Aptitude: Occult: 1
-[X][Merit] Eidetic Memory: 2


PROTECTOR STAT BLOCK
-4DC to activate powers + gifts
-2DC to soak
+2DC to enemy attack rolls when Aegis is active

+3HLs
+3 Stamina, +4 Dexterity, +4 Strength, +3 Perception, +3 Wits
+5 Stamina, +5 Dexterity, +5 Strength, +2 Intelligence and Appearance 0 when Bestial Mutation is active
+2 Charisma, +2 Appearance, +2 Manipulation when Siren's Veil is active
x2 Stamina when Endurance of Heimhall is active

+5 Willpower(that can only be used for activating Gifts)
+1 Action/turn
x1.5 Speed

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NEWBORN SCHOLAR EXPLANATION
1-2) Reduce difficulty to activate powers
3-4) Buff to Perception and Wits
5)Soak lethal with stamina
6)Wound negation + bonus health
7) Reduced DC to soak damage
8) Hide signs of active powers
9) Detect and identify supernaturals within 20 yards
10) Super mode that gives attribute buffs while active
11) Switchable mode that gives two options:
11a) +2 to all Social attributes and makes them appear as ideal woman/man/person when supermode is off
11b) Additional Stamina and Strength buff when supermode is active
12) Super mode upgrade that adds Intelligence and Dexterity buff
13) Ranged energy blast(DC5 Dex+Athletics) with range and damage of pistol with usual Firearms penalties
14) Extra free action per turn + speed buff
15) Unlock extra Gifts and allow the use of Willpower instead of Rage/Gnosis
16) Unlock Gifts above Rank 2 + allow the use of Willpower instead of Rage/Gnosis
17) X-ray vision, radar, sonar etc
18) Reduce DCs for using human-made or -designed tools, from crafting to driving a car to wielding a sword
19) Any computer is omnicompatible with any other digital device, regardless of physical ports, OS, or lack of wireless
20) Reduce social DCs
21) Heal self and others
22) 30 feet long telekinetic arms that can be used to grapple,carry, hold, perform utility but not attack
23) Automatically recover points of Willpower every scene with a roll
24) Discover the chain of command/responsibility of anyone who you are interested in, with faces and identities
25) Summon magic computer thats automatically connected to the Internet regardless of location(real world or NeverNever) and to Sanctuary/cyberdevil network
26) Recover full Willpower any scene that you make the roll
27) See into the NeverNever
28) Telepathy with a range of 10 miles*activation successes
29) Ignore poison, disease, temperature extremes and environmental conditions for several hours per activation
30) Read, speak and understand any language. Does not protect against infohazard
31) People trust and confide in you like a trusted friend and automatically assume the best of you. Wyrm creatures immune
32) Blend into any society, ignore all social penalties
33) Gives stat buffs of Crinos warform for the entire day
34) Immunity to supernatural coercion(mind control, emotion control, mind reading, etc). Break physical bonds on self and others like she has Strength 15, and banish mental bonds on others(geases, vampire blood bonds, etc) with a roll.
35) Teleport to any part of the Umbra she's previously been(Sanctuary, Avalon, etc). Teleport to any part of the world with wolves or Garou (probably replace wolves with people)
36-37) Soak aggravated damage. Normally 5 points, but since we can already soak lethal, reduced to 2
38) DC buff to Occult rolls
39-40) Perfect memory

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NEWBORN REGENT NEW CHANGES
Exoskeleton: Strength and Stamina bonuses
Font of Evil Will: Extra Willpower for casting only
Sense of the Transformation: Medical scan
Territory: Mark land as own, then extend senses to area at will as if patrolling it
Truth of Gaia: Lie detector
Secret of Gaia: Perception buff. Social buff against spirits. General bonus to non-combat rolls
Ease The Fevered Mind: Cure mental illness and Derangments
Realitys Path: Check if what a person thinks is true is actually true
Ubermensch/Beyond Human: Social Excellency

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NEWBORN PROTECTOR NEW CHANGES
Speed of the Messenger: Multiply travel speed for the scene
Sense of the Prey: Find/track anyone you are familiar with, or have a focus for
Rending the Craft: Dispel magic buffs on others who you hit
Sense the Unnatural: What it says
Attunement: Scan the city for potential problems
Ignore Deathblow: 1x perfect dodge per scene
Aegis: Debuff enemy attackers
Invoke The Spirits of the Storm: Weather control, from obscuring mists to thunderstorms and tornados. Variable difficulty.
Endurance of Heimhall: Double Stamina for the scene
Howl of Healing: Heal everyone who can hear your voice

Goldfish said:

Lots of plans for Polly, but so far I think @uju32 is the only one who actually explained what all the bits and bobs of each plan amount.

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I provided the explanation for narrative and mechanics for my build here.

Goldfish said:

EDIT: Looking at the plans, it seems @Degorium is the author of most of them. Could you break down what each of them adds up to, dude?

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Here you go.
A summary for all 3 plans are here.

Yog said:

I provided the explanation for narrative and mechanics for my build here.

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Yzarc said:

Here you go.

Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files) Crossover - Fantasy

[X]Pursuer of Diligent Scholarship V.2 -[X] True Faith - 10 points -[X] Charmed Existence - (5 pt. Merit) -[X] Soak Aggravated - (5 pt. Merit) -[X] Dragons Never Die (1 pt. Merit) -[X] Jack-of-All-Trades (3 pt. Merit) -[X] Acute Senses (1 pt. Merit) -[X] Lightning Calculator (1 pt. Merit) -[X]...

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A summary for all 3 plans are here.

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Thanks, y'all.

Can I get some votes please?

I do need to go away for a bit, but if you look at the 3 clones I've put up, each of them ends up with more than 12 Soak, with the protector clone coming in with north of 20 Soak when loaded for combat .
They all get to act 2x in a turn, instead of Original!Molly's 1x.

To make some quick points before I have to leave:

The Scholar clone can connect to the Internet from anywhere in the world or in the NeverNever
It has superhuman Intelligence at Intelligence 7 (Used to be 9, but I cross-checked the rules, and I wasnt allowed to add +3 from just one source)

The Regent clone can make diagnoses, and heal mental illnesses and Derangements.
Like Rosie's own.

The Protector clone can do area heals. And can find or track anyone we know.
It also has more than 20 Soak, and can break the speed of sound going flat out, at least in transit; combat speed slows down.
AND it gets a perfect defense.

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I'll point out the issues with a True Faith based build later.
Because its worth going into the books and noting all the mechanical and narrative caveats for anyone with even the basic True Faith trait, never mind literally maxing it out.

Goldfish said:

Looking at the plans, it seems @Degorium is the author of most of them. Could you break down what each of them adds up to, dude?

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He still needs to update them because at least one of his builds aren't legal right now. It may end up looking very different later.

Honestly? Any vote with True Faith 10 has my vote.

[X] Burden Everlasting of the Dutiful Sovereign

Not thrilled with the other builds right now. Pods having some defense is vaguely understandable, since she's outside in Creation proper, but the extent to which current plans have it instead of specialized merits seems nuts. The craft build even more so.

Murloc said:

Pods having some defense is vaguely understandable

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How is it only vaguely? We know they will draw aggro at least relative to what actual Molly would since they are Molly and possibly worse if people think they are weaker and less able to defend themselves.

Yzarc said:

Honestly? Any vote with True Faith 10 has my vote.

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You do know the requirements personality wise for any true faith like even Micheal only has 3 dots. Ten dots of True faith is on the level where you won't swat away a Mosquito actively drinking your blood.

[X] uju32
[X] Degorium

I'm still voting for Degorium, as his plans have so far the most complete roster, but an approval for uju as well. Speaking of, @uju32, how do you think about using 4th clone slot for optimized crafter? Molly Prime is quite skilled in that regard, but having a crafter making low-level magic items and potions in the background as well as assistance for bigger projects could be helpful.
Alternatively, specialized sorcerer.

Mithrill said:

how do you think about using 4th clone slot for optimized crafter? Molly Prime is quite skilled in that regard, but having a crafter making low-level magic items and potions in the background as well as assistance for bigger projects could be helpful.

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A crafter clone is kind of pointless if we need people we can just get them from sanctuary. Crafting takes way to long to be done anywhere but in a safe locations.

Earth-Destroyer said:

You do know the requirements personality wise for any true faith like even Micheal only has 3 dots. Ten dots of True faith is on the level where you won't swat away a Mosquito actively drinking your blood.

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In the inquisition book it literally goes into how to use torture, right after true faith.

Yzarc said:

In the inquisition book it literally goes into how to use torture, right after true faith.

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Sure if you believe in something that endorses that. But true faith 10 is literally will not do anything against your faith, no matter how minor. Jaywalking, stepping on bugs accidentally, grabbing someone to save their life, nothing.