Clearly the only true and correct way to deal with this is to use social charms to convince the Crown otherwise in a definitely-sane process of talking with herself, but not to one of the voices in her head like all of the other times she talks to herself
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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If Molly personally makes some anti magic juice on the side would using it on herself after taking a failed potion clear it?
Alternatively, could we toggle our shaping defense against it if Molly reclassifies the effect as hostile?
Also worth noting that we asked what Dresden's mother had on starborn not the actual truth for foci reasons. She was very, very, good at her craft but that doesn't mean she had a flawless and complete picture of the situation.
It's possible that the creators of this universe and every instance between the age of legends and now specifically included some aspects of the original stars of Creation in their work to anchor imported starborn souls, but we're using third hand information with no citation on where Margaret got it here.
She was essentially the preeminent mortal expert on this topic, so her work should be taken seriously, but it's possible that she learned everything it was possible for a human to know about it while she was alive and still lacked critical information.
In the ways I listed? Primarily through others and to get exact information. Not just "housing is going to blow up" but "X, Y, and Z people have such and such ownership using this loophole" or "A, B, and C are trying to hide their money like this which will make things worse".
I'm not a financial expert either, but my assumption is that the people who are can more effectively leverage their skills if given access to better information. In particular pre-processed information, because having too much data can be blinding itself. Our cyber devils and sutra are magical AI who can just know and do whatever their host machine does.
Past that, I wonder about how our internal stock market works. Because the FCF have immortals and hilariously advanced magitech computing for a very long time now. I imagine IRIS' contempt for the crude modern internet would be mirrored in the regulators who've been dealing with that market successfully against all comers.
I don't see how they could just fix it, but it seems like even a minimal amount of assistance would offer entirely new advantages to work with.
There's also a difference between knowing what it does generally and knowing the fine details. Wizards thrive on learning this sort of thing about others and playing games with the moving parts.
Even if it somehow wasn't a threat they're exactly the kind of people to see it that way.
The Flame of Wonder
Helping Michael is a social option to bond with our father over something that's not combat.
We will have issues, same as when we used Big Book of Yomi Wan
White God made the current iteration of the universe. Possibly with Maidens helping. Starborn are clearly important to the universal design. I can buy stars being made to guide them.
Are you suddenly claiming that Dresden is fully knowledgeable of what magic is capable of, and if he isn't using something, that's because it doesn't work?
SETI is looking for signs of advanced technological life in the form of signals from other stars. That's what they are doing. That's their methodology. We asked where we can find what they are looking for. Hence, coordinates of systems with advanced technological civilizations that send out signals.
We don't have action points for that. Porter's train body takes 4 AP to complete, and should be done via Molly for best results (access to excellencies and exalted crafting). If I take out an AP from artifact crafting, we start risking consequences for alchemical production of major potions, and that, in turn, risks Charity's reaction to them, which I don't want to incur.
Helping Michael is a social option to bond with our father over something that's not combat.
That's not enough. Porter's body takes 4 AP. We aren't finishing it this turn. Not unless you also dedicate SGI AP to it.
Where did you get "publishing" from? Writing and publishing (in the modern sense of the word) are two very different things. Big Book of Yomi Wan is a fariyl well kept secret.
Yes, as long as it was of equal or leaser complexity. If you make something that needs say Alchemy 5 later that is not going to get cleared
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[X]PLAN HOME SECURITY
-[X] MOLLY PRIME: 6 AP + 2 Malcoffee AP
--[X][INVESTIGATIONS] A friend in need. You promised Rosie that you would help and so you will: 1 AP
---[X] Moving out. The sooner you get Rosie out of that house the better
--[X][FINANCES AND INFRASTRUCTURE] The Other side of the Mirror: Secure Nevernever areas corresponding to the Last station: 1 AP
--[X][ARCANE ALLIES] NEW Getting Lydia a Good Boy: assist Lydia in getting a dog, maybe a magical one. Mouse might be interested in helping. 1 AP
--[X][ARCANE ALLIES] NEW Training... Wizards?: Carlos would like to meet with you. 1 AP
--[X][CRAFTING] New Artifact Workshop: Crafting a place of potential(0/10 AP)[+1d4 AP Joe Magarac + 4 AP Tiffany]: 1 AP + 2 Malcoffee AP
--[X][WRITE-IN: CRAFTING] Soul Train: Building Porter a train-body like he wanted.[+ Elves]: 1AP
-[X]SPLINTERED GALE INCARNATION: 24/24 SGI AP
--[X][SCHOOL][SGI] Attend school: 1 SGI AP
--[X][INVESTIGATIONS][SGI] Look into the Minor Talents of Chicago: 3 SGI AP
---[X] Alphas, friends of Harry, close to you in age
---[X] Friends in Low Places, she might work for Marcone but Grad was really cool
---[X] Spirit Speaker, Mortimer Lindquist is the real deal
--[X][INVESTIGATIONS] Updated [SGI] Higher Education: Engage with mundane side of getting into Harvard: 2 SGI AP
--[X][INVESTIGATIONS][SGI] Crown and Scepter, see what good your unique talents can be in Sanctuary: 6 SGI AP
--[X][INVESTIGATIONS] [SGI] NEW Teachings of Winter: Teach unknown Paths to the spirit binders of Sanctuary.Your presence, in some manner will help smooth matters. 3 SGI AP
--[X][ARCANE ALLIES] Cauldron Bubble, your new friends in the Ordo Lebetis could use more help
---[X] Updated [SGI] Online presence, See if you can convince the others to set up a strong online presence. 1 SGI AP
--[X][FAMILY TIME] [SGI] Updated Family Unknown, Even if they didn't you have other more distant family in Boston that it would be cool to meet. 1 SGI AP
--[X][FAMILY TIME] [SGI] NEW Introductions to more of you: Twin jokes. Get your family used to other yous: 1 SGI AP
--[X][WRITE-IN: CRAFTING] ALCHEMY: Making potions of Astarte Veneria and Nabu Mercury: 6 SGI AP
-[X] MOLLY PRIME: 6 AP + 2 Malcoffee AP
--[X][INVESTIGATIONS] A friend in need. You promised Rosie that you would help and so you will: 1 AP
---[X] Moving out. The sooner you get Rosie out of that house the better
--[X][FINANCES AND INFRASTRUCTURE] The Other side of the Mirror: Secure Nevernever areas corresponding to the Last station: 1 AP
--[X][ARCANE ALLIES] NEW Getting Lydia a Good Boy: assist Lydia in getting a dog, maybe a magical one. Mouse might be interested in helping. 1 AP
--[X][ARCANE ALLIES] NEW Training... Wizards?: Carlos would like to meet with you. 1 AP
--[X][CRAFTING] New Artifact Workshop: Crafting a place of potential(0/10 AP)[+1d4 AP Joe Magarac + 4 AP Tiffany]: 1 AP + 2 Malcoffee AP
--[X][WRITE-IN: CRAFTING] Soul Train: Building Porter a train-body like he wanted.[+ Elves]: 1AP
-[X]SPLINTERED GALE INCARNATION: 24/24 SGI AP
--[X][SCHOOL][SGI] Attend school: 1 SGI AP
--[X][INVESTIGATIONS][SGI] Look into the Minor Talents of Chicago: 3 SGI AP
---[X] Alphas, friends of Harry, close to you in age
---[X] Friends in Low Places, she might work for Marcone but Grad was really cool
---[X] Spirit Speaker, Mortimer Lindquist is the real deal
--[X][INVESTIGATIONS] Updated [SGI] Higher Education: Engage with mundane side of getting into Harvard: 2 SGI AP
--[X][INVESTIGATIONS][SGI] Crown and Scepter, see what good your unique talents can be in Sanctuary: 6 SGI AP
--[X][INVESTIGATIONS] [SGI] NEW Teachings of Winter: Teach unknown Paths to the spirit binders of Sanctuary.Your presence, in some manner will help smooth matters. 3 SGI AP
--[X][ARCANE ALLIES] Cauldron Bubble, your new friends in the Ordo Lebetis could use more help
---[X] Updated [SGI] Online presence, See if you can convince the others to set up a strong online presence. 1 SGI AP
--[X][FAMILY TIME] [SGI] Updated Family Unknown, Even if they didn't you have other more distant family in Boston that it would be cool to meet. 1 SGI AP
--[X][FAMILY TIME] [SGI] NEW Introductions to more of you: Twin jokes. Get your family used to other yous: 1 SGI AP
--[X][WRITE-IN: CRAFTING] ALCHEMY: Making potions of Astarte Veneria and Nabu Mercury: 6 SGI AP
I wouldnt say that.
Arianna Ortega, who was more than 600 years old, tried to use a veil in a duel with Winter Knight Dresden.
Remember that even in factions, many supernaturals may not necessarily cooperate.
BoredMan
Dinosaurs came in many flavors. Like potato chips.
Who would we be giving the book to? The White Council is a rats nest of absurd proportions. It's even worse here than canon due to at least one ongoing Outsider plot.
If we give it to them then everyone and their grandma's pet goldfish and probably even Daedalus will somehow hear of it and get a copy. That's the same as publishing it in my mind. Was there someone else you wanted to give it to?
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To trusted allies and in trade with other factions for profit. Also, we are dealing with rat infestation in White Council in my plan.
Ok, fine, damn it all. Let's sacrifice stuff.
[X]PLAN SECURITY HOME AND ABROAD
-[X] MOLLY PRIME: 6 AP + 2 Malcoffee AP
--[X][INVESTIGATIONS] A friend in need. You promised Rosie that you would help and so you will: 1 AP
---[X] Moving out. The sooner you get Rosie out of that house the better
--[X][FINANCES AND INFRASTRUCTURE] The Other side of the Mirror: Secure Nevernever areas corresponding to the Last station: 1 AP
--[X][ARCANE ALLIES] NEW Getting Lydia a Good Boy: assist Lydia in getting a dog, maybe a magical one. Mouse might be interested in helping. 1 AP
--[X][ARCANE ALLIES] NEW Traitor, Enemy of All: Thanks to your Crown you know the names of traitors in the White Council, the trouble is how to explain that without giving the game away. Or perhaps deal with them yourself: 1 AP
--[X][CRAFTING] New Artifact Workshop: Crafting a place of potential(0/10 AP)[+1d4 AP Joe Magarac + 4 AP Tiffany]: 1 AP + 2 Malcoffee AP
--[X][CRAFTING] A Train for Porter: Though he is a lot more happy for the company and the rush of energy though hidden cables Porter retains his fascination with trains... something the Spirit Binders of the City of Journey could help him with Costs: 1 AP
---[X][SGI] And use 3 SGI AP
-[X]SPLINTERED GALE INCARNATION: 24/24 SGI AP
--[X][SCHOOL][SGI] Attend school: 1 SGI AP
--[X][INVESTIGATIONS][SGI] Look into the Minor Talents of Chicago: 3 SGI AP
---[X] Alphas, friends of Harry, close to you in age
---[X] Friends in Low Places, she might work for Marcone but Grad was really cool
---[X] Spirit Speaker, Mortimer Lindquist is the real deal
--[X][INVESTIGATIONS] Updated [SGI] Higher Education: Engage with mundane side of getting into Harvard: 2 SGI AP
--[X][INVESTIGATIONS][SGI] Crown and Scepter, see what good your unique talents can be in Sanctuary: 6 SGI AP
--[X][WRITE-IN INVESTIGATIONS][SGI] The stars were made to guide them: Investigate astrological systems in light of our Crown knowledge to find our what works, together with Bob: 1 SGI AP
--[X][INVESTIGATIONS] [SGI] NEW Teachings of Winter: Teach unknown Paths to the spirit binders of Sanctuary.Your presence, in some manner will help smooth matters. 3 SGI AP
--[X][ARCANE ALLIES] Cauldron Bubble, your new friends in the Ordo Lebetis could use more help
---[X] [SGI] Updated Online presence, See if you can convince the others to set up a strong online presence: 1 SGI AP
--[X][FAMILY TIME] [SGI] NEW Introductions to more of you: Twin jokes. Get your family used to other yous: 1 SGI AP
--[X][WRITE-IN FAMILY TIME] [SGI] Family that crafts together: Help Michael in his mundane job: 1 SGI AP
--[X][WRITE-IN ALCHEMY]: Cooking the good stuff: Produce Malcoffee, Astarte Venerian, Nabu Mercury, and Prima Metallum for yourself and your allies: 2 SGI AP
---[X] Use all the tricks to make the brewing safer (CCC, BSM, WHWH)
There, everyone happy? We at least take Peabody, we should be able to finish Porter's body this turn. Let me have at least something.
Addressed by the QM
1) The Maidens were not creator deities, and there's no evidence they had anything to do with creation here.
2) The Dresden Files plot is restricted to this planet, and the most powerful people like Mab that we see onscreen arent planet creators or destroyers, let alone at the point of messing with stars
You are well outside the scale of the DF.
1) Holden made a hard declaration of no Astrology in ExWoD
2) I am claiming that BOB has a good idea of what magics work in the setting. We see Dresden with textbooks.
If something like this worked, there would be evidence of its use
There isnt.
Nobody is reading the horoscope in the papers for guidance.
I will address the rest of this when I get back from the airport.
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fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
This actually makes me wonder if there are Fey that care more about the thrill of the hunt then any Bloodsport. Because if so it seems like it shouldn't be hard to get them to agree to act as the red team. Of course getting a promise from them not to do any lasting damage.
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Three of the Maidens are Fates here. Fate is a major holdover mechanism from previous iterations of Creation. They have something to do with it.
Yes? White God made the universe, and there's a non-zero chance, I would even say a high chance, that he made stars to guide Starborn. As you like to point out, Uriel is a galaxy buster.
Holden also said no manses. We are playing in a more intact Creation than WoD.
Harry also cannot do oneiromancy, yet Bob was able to teach us enough theory that we taught Rosie.
The
Molly: I've known the mittens for 5 minutes and if anything happened to them I'd kill everyone involved, then go get their souls back myself.
Unfortunately for their dignity, Molly has overwhelming Big Sis Energy and the power to back it up.
They are going to live in the same city as Tiffany. Molly is absolutely not the worst that is going to happen to their dignity. Considering her upbearing and friend circle they gonna wish they were dealing with Molly after five minutes of her starting to talk.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
Should be 'why'.
Learning in Chicago is going to give them a very strange perspective. One perhaps suited for a different Age. With urban magic (Harry knows how to defeat techbane by changing your mindset, and baby wizards are the best to be taught it), far more supernatural near-openly around, like cybernetic dragon-people, and occasional Molly interrupt of "hey kids, who wants to build a god?" kind.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
Real shame that my prayer eating plan didn't win.
[X]PLAN HOME SECURITY
-[X] MOLLY PRIME: 6 AP + 2 Malcoffee AP
--[X][INVESTIGATIONS] A friend in need. You promised Rosie that you would help and so you will: 1 AP
---[X] Moving out. The sooner you get Rosie out of that house the better
--[X][FINANCES AND INFRASTRUCTURE] The Other side of the Mirror: Secure Nevernever areas corresponding to the Last station: 1 AP
--[X][ARCANE ALLIES] NEW Getting Lydia a Good Boy: assist Lydia in getting a dog, maybe a magical one. Mouse might be interested in helping. 1 AP
--[X][ARCANE ALLIES] NEW Training... Wizards?: Carlos would like to meet with you. 1 AP
--[X][CRAFTING] New Artifact Workshop: Crafting a place of potential(0/10 AP)[+1d4 AP Joe Magarac + 4 AP Tiffany]: 1 AP + 2 Malcoffee AP
--[X][WRITE-IN: CRAFTING] Soul Train: Building Porter a train-body like he wanted.[+ Elves]: 1AP
-[X]SPLINTERED GALE INCARNATION: 24/24 SGI AP
--[X][SCHOOL][SGI] Attend school: 1 SGI AP
--[X][INVESTIGATIONS][SGI] Look into the Minor Talents of Chicago: 3 SGI AP
---[X] Alphas, friends of Harry, close to you in age
---[X] Friends in Low Places, she might work for Marcone but Grad was really cool
---[X] Spirit Speaker, Mortimer Lindquist is the real deal
--[X][INVESTIGATIONS] Updated [SGI] Higher Education: Engage with mundane side of getting into Harvard: 2 SGI AP
--[X][INVESTIGATIONS][SGI] Crown and Scepter, see what good your unique talents can be in Sanctuary: 6 SGI AP
--[X][INVESTIGATIONS] [SGI] NEW Teachings of Winter: Teach unknown Paths to the spirit binders of Sanctuary.Your presence, in some manner will help smooth matters. 3 SGI AP
--[X][ARCANE ALLIES] Cauldron Bubble, your new friends in the Ordo Lebetis could use more help
---[X] Updated [SGI] Online presence, See if you can convince the others to set up a strong online presence. 1 SGI AP
--[X][FAMILY TIME] [SGI] Updated Family Unknown, Even if they didn't you have other more distant family in Boston that it would be cool to meet. 1 SGI AP
--[X][FAMILY TIME] [SGI] NEW Introductions to more of you: Twin jokes. Get your family used to other yous: 1 SGI AP
--[X][WRITE-IN: CRAFTING] ALCHEMY: Making potions of Astarte Veneria and Nabu Mercury: 6 SGI AP
-[X] MOLLY PRIME: 6 AP + 2 Malcoffee AP
--[X][INVESTIGATIONS] A friend in need. You promised Rosie that you would help and so you will: 1 AP
---[X] Moving out. The sooner you get Rosie out of that house the better
--[X][FINANCES AND INFRASTRUCTURE] The Other side of the Mirror: Secure Nevernever areas corresponding to the Last station: 1 AP
--[X][ARCANE ALLIES] NEW Getting Lydia a Good Boy: assist Lydia in getting a dog, maybe a magical one. Mouse might be interested in helping. 1 AP
--[X][ARCANE ALLIES] NEW Training... Wizards?: Carlos would like to meet with you. 1 AP
--[X][CRAFTING] New Artifact Workshop: Crafting a place of potential(0/10 AP)[+1d4 AP Joe Magarac + 4 AP Tiffany]: 1 AP + 2 Malcoffee AP
--[X][WRITE-IN: CRAFTING] Soul Train: Building Porter a train-body like he wanted.[+ Elves]: 1AP
-[X]SPLINTERED GALE INCARNATION: 24/24 SGI AP
--[X][SCHOOL][SGI] Attend school: 1 SGI AP
--[X][INVESTIGATIONS][SGI] Look into the Minor Talents of Chicago: 3 SGI AP
---[X] Alphas, friends of Harry, close to you in age
---[X] Friends in Low Places, she might work for Marcone but Grad was really cool
---[X] Spirit Speaker, Mortimer Lindquist is the real deal
--[X][INVESTIGATIONS] Updated [SGI] Higher Education: Engage with mundane side of getting into Harvard: 2 SGI AP
--[X][INVESTIGATIONS][SGI] Crown and Scepter, see what good your unique talents can be in Sanctuary: 6 SGI AP
--[X][INVESTIGATIONS] [SGI] NEW Teachings of Winter: Teach unknown Paths to the spirit binders of Sanctuary.Your presence, in some manner will help smooth matters. 3 SGI AP
--[X][ARCANE ALLIES] Cauldron Bubble, your new friends in the Ordo Lebetis could use more help
---[X] Updated [SGI] Online presence, See if you can convince the others to set up a strong online presence. 1 SGI AP
--[X][FAMILY TIME] [SGI] Updated Family Unknown, Even if they didn't you have other more distant family in Boston that it would be cool to meet. 1 SGI AP
--[X][FAMILY TIME] [SGI] NEW Introductions to more of you: Twin jokes. Get your family used to other yous: 1 SGI AP
--[X][WRITE-IN: CRAFTING] ALCHEMY: Making potions of Astarte Veneria and Nabu Mercury: 6 SGI AP
Good odds she avoids them to avoid uncomfortable questions.
Swinging back to the interlude, those poor bastards are going to have fun. Technically she's a master sorcerer, and in her disciplines Olivia is downright mean.
The setting is likely to be very different by the time they're fully grown into their power, but this smells like something you'd hear about the backstory of a decently powerful supernatural just showing up in a DF book.
Harry would get in trouble and suddenly have his life saved by a clearly magical sniper of ambiguous loyalty who brutally kills a hit squad that just cornered him before walking off with the McGuffin of the week. His follow up would reveal she's an old friend of some Wardens he respects, but gets a warning that she's got an agenda and isn't shy about pushing it. Putting him in an awkward semi-antagonistic relationship with her while they figure out the other's deal.
Later she'd get a short story revealing she's the patron of her own species of the modern nights fighting ghouls for space and some bizarrely deep ties with the homeless community.
- Location
- Germany
[X] Yog
Peabody, no Exaltation and no extended family?
I'm in.
Peabody, no Exaltation and no extended family?
I'm in.
On the last two interludes - the world of Chicago is becoming a lot more supernatural, isn't it? Or, rather, masquerade is fraying, becoming a polite fiction for those willingly blind. Having exalts and exalt-adjacent beings running around is bringing back the Age of Heroes.
Also, we are probably going to have to help Murphy soon.
Also, we are probably going to have to help Murphy soon.
I think it's more that we're getting more awareness and involvement. Technically we haven't added to the people in the know after all.
Murphy is a toss up, it's unclear how much help she'll accept.