Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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Hell. Thomas rolls 13 dice at difficulty five when he isn't going all out. The power of a social specced vampire.
- You can screen them once per type of potion, but the Crown is not interested in being a mechanism of magical potion control
- True but she does not have the charm
- Also true, but only relevant when you have her with you and some of the effects of failure can be quite exotic and hard to notice as well
It would. Thats why my plan is doing it.
We are not pointing it at ourself, we're pointing it at an object.
Its applicable.
Literally in the quote; [A metaphor. At least, I hope it is.]
The Starborn, and the Sidereals who apparently made them, are not creation deities.
They did not make the universe.
This is like common sense.
Card reading, prophetic dreams, summoning, all true.
Astrology is a very specific thing, and it isnt practiced by wizards or other magic users in the Dresdenverse, and Holden explicitly said, and I quote:
It doesnt work.
There's a reason why Dresden does not do it at all.
What SETI are looking for IE aliens.
We have no filters for range or technological status.
And like I have pointed out, providing foci for everything from scammers to Outsider cultists to use as justification for recruitment is a very real cost that could impinge on us.
Its borrowing trouble when we dont need any.
I feel like we should at least consider something for the financial crisis a bit more seriously with all this AP floating around.
Molly isn't a financial expert, but we can lay out exactly where the bodies are buried in a way that could save the people who are time. Also try to make sure the criminals involved don't weasel out of responsibility if we can.
Even if it's not its own action we could still potentially do it as part of other tasks. For example, if we play with the baby mages we can slip that information to their minders because the white council is actually the shadow wizard money gang. If we do eyes in the sky we could arrange for information that the feds couldn't get and process on their own in time to leak to the Library.
This is one of those interesting asides I think make up some of the fun of Urban Fantasy.
The only thing that would be better is if we could somehow mitigate the situation by sticking large parts of the bill with people we hate. Can America's business vampires* suck all the green out of the red court somehow? Maybe assassinate their smartest financial proxies and offer them up as ablood bullion sacrifice to the stock gods for financial salvation? 
* They've got to have some sort of supernatural power for doing that given their everything. Might as well start calling them the gold court at this point.
It's a wizard only thing and they can share that information with other wizards they like. A book that's just out there in the wild is mostly useful for people who want to work against them from their perspective.
Molly isn't a financial expert, but we can lay out exactly where the bodies are buried in a way that could save the people who are time. Also try to make sure the criminals involved don't weasel out of responsibility if we can.
Even if it's not its own action we could still potentially do it as part of other tasks. For example, if we play with the baby mages we can slip that information to their minders because the white council is actually the shadow wizard money gang. If we do eyes in the sky we could arrange for information that the feds couldn't get and process on their own in time to leak to the Library.
This is one of those interesting asides I think make up some of the fun of Urban Fantasy.
The only thing that would be better is if we could somehow mitigate the situation by sticking large parts of the bill with people we hate. Can America's business vampires* suck all the green out of the red court somehow? Maybe assassinate their smartest financial proxies and offer them up as a
* They've got to have some sort of supernatural power for doing that given their everything. Might as well start calling them the gold court at this point.
Potentially but it's still alarming. Just one more thing on the pile, though I think writing a book on it would really piss them off.
It's a wizard only thing and they can share that information with other wizards they like. A book that's just out there in the wild is mostly useful for people who want to work against them from their perspective.
BoredMan
Dinosaurs came in many flavors. Like potato chips.
@Yog @uju32 I think we should go all in on the White Council plotline this turn and take the Baby Wizard quest along with Peabody and fortify Last station by giving Porter a body all in the same turn. Especially with Dresden and Olivia getting involved with them. Porter was incapacitated during the assault on Last station and now the WC is getting more involved with Chicago which by proxy means our enemies are too.
I don't see a point in using AP to help Michael out with his dayjob though. The guy is a carpenter it mostly seems like a waste of AP compared to the previously mentioned things. I think that writing a book on the Sight is also a bad idea since the WC's enemies would also have access to it.
I'm not sure if they consider it's mechanics to be a trade secret or not but that seems like a concern. We should be careful about spreading such lore around.
I don't see a point in using AP to help Michael out with his dayjob though. The guy is a carpenter it mostly seems like a waste of AP compared to the previously mentioned things. I think that writing a book on the Sight is also a bad idea since the WC's enemies would also have access to it.
I'm not sure if they consider it's mechanics to be a trade secret or not but that seems like a concern. We should be careful about spreading such lore around.
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Eh I don't see much disadvantage of old wizards being able to use soulgaze better. It's mostly just a decent investigation tool and checking others for trustworthiness. Oh wait it's the sight ehhh still not sure since I doubt it'd let them do it 24/7 so at most they can use the sight in things that'd usually explode their heads a bit more.
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1) Once per lifetime? Or once per batch. And note that each scene with them is a potential focus
2) Not yet. And Molly is already rolling at -2DC for poisoning just by virtue of being an Exalt
poison and disease
Exalted lower the difficulty to resist, soak, or recover from all poisons and diseases by –2. Non-supernat-
ural diseases can weaken the Exalted, but cannot kill them, and each successive roll an Exalt makes to recov-
er from a disease lowers its difficulty by –1. Incurable diseases such as HIV are purged from an Exalt's system
after (8 – Stamina) weeks.
Exalted lower the difficulty to resist, soak, or recover from all poisons and diseases by –2. Non-supernat-
ural diseases can weaken the Exalted, but cannot kill them, and each successive roll an Exalt makes to recov-
er from a disease lowers its difficulty by –1. Incurable diseases such as HIV are purged from an Exalt's system
after (8 – Stamina) weeks.
3) She doesnt have to notice to simply use the Lore on her prophylactically.
Faster too.
They know.
They have known since at least the public announcment. Possibly sooner if the Library reached out to them
I dont see how Molly helps here
She has Finance 0, no applicable Excellency, and no financial charms.
Once per type of potion. You could use it in the scene you are drinking it in, but that is closer to the fight and you might want to save that essence.
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Wonder how many dots in disease crafting it'd take to make something comparable to that plot device disease in creation I think I remember that wiped out large parts of the population.
BoredMan
Dinosaurs came in many flavors. Like potato chips.
The White Council is up to the neck in spies. A book that tells them how to avoid negative drawbacks of using the Sight would also draw attention to such a weaknesses. I don't recall how well known the Sight even is to non wizards. It's not our secret to give out either.
The Great Contagion... ? That will take more than raw numbers, you'd need the sponsorship of something that hates life on at least a comparable level to the Neverborn.
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It's very fucking known well for long lived supernaturals at least. Also I doubt we just have a way to 100% mitigate the downsides of the sight too much will still make one insane and no amount of practice should let someone look at Uriel without melting one's own face.
This is a bad idea.
Both from the meta-narrative of "take a break" and from the IC of "most of our war party does not have the abilities to reduce harm yet." Lash literally does not have soak yet; if you shoot her she will die, and she has no counterspelling. Molly cannot counterspell spirit magic.
Basically, I just have no interest in doing Peabody this turn.
We arent prepared for it, and it will turn into a shitshow of 60+ post proportions because we're dealing with an entrenched Nephandus with Outsider backing and mind-controlled wizard pawns we do not want to kill.
We just did 2x 60+ post arcs back to back.
I want a breather.
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I didn't mean personally just kinda wonder what it takes like in general.
The above stands, Step One Find Neverborn, Step Two: ??? (Likely involves talking to them).
BoredMan
Dinosaurs came in many flavors. Like potato chips.
I think you missed the point of my post.
Yeah your right, one at a time. We can handle it next turn. Porter's train body should be finished by then too.
Olivia gonna be happy. Getting to punt some baby wizards after she was just a minor talent for most of her life.
Plan has been updated with an Alchemy action at the very end, using the remaining SGI AP
VOTE
[X]PLAN HOME SECURITY
-[X] MOLLY PRIME: 6 AP + 2 Malcoffee AP
--[X][INVESTIGATIONS] A friend in need. You promised Rosie that you would help and so you will: 1 AP
---[X] Moving out. The sooner you get Rosie out of that house the better
--[X][FINANCES AND INFRASTRUCTURE] The Other side of the Mirror: Secure Nevernever areas corresponding to the Last station: 1 AP
--[X][ARCANE ALLIES] NEW Getting Lydia a Good Boy: assist Lydia in getting a dog, maybe a magical one. Mouse might be interested in helping. 1 AP
--[X][ARCANE ALLIES] NEW Training... Wizards?: Carlos would like to meet with you. 1 AP
--[X][CRAFTING] New Artifact Workshop: Crafting a place of potential(0/10 AP)[+1d4 AP Joe Magarac + 4 AP Tiffany]: 1 AP + 2 Malcoffee AP
--[X][WRITE-IN: CRAFTING] Soul Train: Building Porter a train-body like he wanted.[+ Elves]: 1AP
-[X]SPLINTERED GALE INCARNATION: 24/24 SGI AP
--[X][SCHOOL][SGI] Attend school: 1 SGI AP
--[X][INVESTIGATIONS][SGI] Look into the Minor Talents of Chicago: 3 SGI AP
---[X] Alphas, friends of Harry, close to you in age
---[X] Friends in Low Places, she might work for Marcone but Grad was really cool
---[X] Spirit Speaker, Mortimer Lindquist is the real deal
--[X][INVESTIGATIONS] Updated [SGI] Higher Education: Engage with mundane side of getting into Harvard: 2 SGI AP
--[X][INVESTIGATIONS][SGI] Crown and Scepter, see what good your unique talents can be in Sanctuary: 6 SGI AP
--[X][INVESTIGATIONS] [SGI] NEW Teachings of Winter: Teach unknown Paths to the spirit binders of Sanctuary.Your presence, in some manner will help smooth matters. 3 SGI AP
--[X][ARCANE ALLIES] Cauldron Bubble, your new friends in the Ordo Lebetis could use more help
---[X] Updated [SGI] Online presence, See if you can convince the others to set up a strong online presence. 1 SGI AP
--[X][FAMILY TIME] [SGI] Updated Family Unknown, Even if they didn't you have other more distant family in Boston that it would be cool to meet. 1 SGI AP
--[X][FAMILY TIME] [SGI] NEW Introductions to more of you: Twin jokes. Get your family used to other yous: 1 SGI AP
--[X][WRITE-IN: CRAFTING] ALCHEMY: Making potions of Astarte Veneria and Nabu Mercury: 6 SGI AP
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RATIONALE
All in on the Forge; the quicker its done, the less chance for interference.
Between Molly and Tiffany, thats 7AP committed. If Joe Magarac rolls high, we finish it this turn.
If not, we finish next turn.
Secure the Last Station Never-Never to get rid of staging posts for attackers. Or spies for that matter.
I dropped Bridges this month for Molly personally building Porter a train-body. Not the most mechanically optimal choice to do it personally, but narratively it seemed appropriate for Molly to give him the best armored train she can.
A train improves his ability to defend Last Station; he told us that the only reason the Will of Kakuri was able to fend him off was because he wasnt embodied at the time.
Next turn, we put two AP on Bridges(1 normal, 1 malcoffee) to compensate.
I DONT want to deal with the Solar Exaltation.
And I dont want to deal with Peabody. Not this turn. Each of those is one its own a major plot point that will dominate the story arcs they are in, and both deserve their own story arcs.
And we need to breathe a little, both OOC and IC.
Vegas and Boston were both in January.
VOTE
[X]PLAN HOME SECURITY
-[X] MOLLY PRIME: 6 AP + 2 Malcoffee AP
--[X][INVESTIGATIONS] A friend in need. You promised Rosie that you would help and so you will: 1 AP
---[X] Moving out. The sooner you get Rosie out of that house the better
--[X][FINANCES AND INFRASTRUCTURE] The Other side of the Mirror: Secure Nevernever areas corresponding to the Last station: 1 AP
--[X][ARCANE ALLIES] NEW Getting Lydia a Good Boy: assist Lydia in getting a dog, maybe a magical one. Mouse might be interested in helping. 1 AP
--[X][ARCANE ALLIES] NEW Training... Wizards?: Carlos would like to meet with you. 1 AP
--[X][CRAFTING] New Artifact Workshop: Crafting a place of potential(0/10 AP)[+1d4 AP Joe Magarac + 4 AP Tiffany]: 1 AP + 2 Malcoffee AP
--[X][WRITE-IN: CRAFTING] Soul Train: Building Porter a train-body like he wanted.[+ Elves]: 1AP
-[X]SPLINTERED GALE INCARNATION: 24/24 SGI AP
--[X][SCHOOL][SGI] Attend school: 1 SGI AP
--[X][INVESTIGATIONS][SGI] Look into the Minor Talents of Chicago: 3 SGI AP
---[X] Alphas, friends of Harry, close to you in age
---[X] Friends in Low Places, she might work for Marcone but Grad was really cool
---[X] Spirit Speaker, Mortimer Lindquist is the real deal
--[X][INVESTIGATIONS] Updated [SGI] Higher Education: Engage with mundane side of getting into Harvard: 2 SGI AP
--[X][INVESTIGATIONS][SGI] Crown and Scepter, see what good your unique talents can be in Sanctuary: 6 SGI AP
--[X][INVESTIGATIONS] [SGI] NEW Teachings of Winter: Teach unknown Paths to the spirit binders of Sanctuary.Your presence, in some manner will help smooth matters. 3 SGI AP
--[X][ARCANE ALLIES] Cauldron Bubble, your new friends in the Ordo Lebetis could use more help
---[X] Updated [SGI] Online presence, See if you can convince the others to set up a strong online presence. 1 SGI AP
--[X][FAMILY TIME] [SGI] Updated Family Unknown, Even if they didn't you have other more distant family in Boston that it would be cool to meet. 1 SGI AP
--[X][FAMILY TIME] [SGI] NEW Introductions to more of you: Twin jokes. Get your family used to other yous: 1 SGI AP
--[X][WRITE-IN: CRAFTING] ALCHEMY: Making potions of Astarte Veneria and Nabu Mercury: 6 SGI AP
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RATIONALE
All in on the Forge; the quicker its done, the less chance for interference.
Between Molly and Tiffany, thats 7AP committed. If Joe Magarac rolls high, we finish it this turn.
If not, we finish next turn.
Secure the Last Station Never-Never to get rid of staging posts for attackers. Or spies for that matter.
I dropped Bridges this month for Molly personally building Porter a train-body. Not the most mechanically optimal choice to do it personally, but narratively it seemed appropriate for Molly to give him the best armored train she can.
A train improves his ability to defend Last Station; he told us that the only reason the Will of Kakuri was able to fend him off was because he wasnt embodied at the time.
Next turn, we put two AP on Bridges(1 normal, 1 malcoffee) to compensate.
I DONT want to deal with the Solar Exaltation.
And I dont want to deal with Peabody. Not this turn. Each of those is one its own a major plot point that will dominate the story arcs they are in, and both deserve their own story arcs.
And we need to breathe a little, both OOC and IC.
Vegas and Boston were both in January.
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I was saying basically any long lived supernatural is aware of the sight and probably most of its basic mechanics.
I dont see why.They're kids.
Most of them younger than she is.
The Trailman twins, IIRC, were 15-16.
You'd be surprised.
The DF does not do information sharing of occult secrets.
Odin, Mab, Titania, a lot of the older gods.
Many younger supernaturals, including most of the active ones, dont really know all that much.
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I mean yeah but those are younger supernaturals I don't think I've ever seen an old one unaware of the sight and its intricacies. Mind you I'm sure plenty of old stuff in the nevernever wouldn't know. But you can say basically anything about stuff in the nevernever and it's probably true somewhere.
Yeah, Olivia has a problem with the institution of the White Council, not people who happen to have wizard-level power. That's why Thomas suggested she work with the trainees.
BoredMan
Dinosaurs came in many flavors. Like potato chips.
Regardless publishing a book on it would mean even the mortal factions like Daedalus could become aware of it. We really shouldn't.