Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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Ok but we also have:
  • Trust arises from choice. Love arises from trust. There can be no perfect safety, save in death. For love or trust to exist, so must the chance of heartbreak and betrayal. (Courage, Choice, Expression)
which was kind of about people having the right to privacy and secrets.

So what happens when we combine these two? 🤔

We add this one :p

It is the artist's duty to question. The trickster's role to make fools of the mighty. Hold the mirror to history and tradition, and reveal their absurdities.(Creation, Expression, Truth)
 
[X] A good neighbor listens without spying, speaks without demanding, takes without dominating, gives without submitting. Respect is the foundation of community.
 
[X] A good neighbor listens without spying, speaks without demanding, takes without dominating, gives without submitting. Respect is the foundation of community.

I'll go for it. Narrative bait and foundation.
 
Ok but we also have:
  • Trust arises from choice. Love arises from trust. There can be no perfect safety, save in death. For love or trust to exist, so must the chance of heartbreak and betrayal. (Courage, Choice, Expression)
which was kind of about people having the right to privacy and secrets.

So what happens when we combine these two? 🤔
I'm pretty sure you're just playing, but that is an insight about private thoughts and feelings, in interpersonal relationships and the need to allow distance to exist there, it does not cover your commerce clerk's altered tax records. :p
 
I... wait, is that about secrets? Isn't it actually the case that the other Insight we could have taken at some point fits privacy more?

It's not like we're demanding perfect safety by auditing or whatnot?
Fair. I was reacting to the "... no expectation of privacy within that sphere" part, reading "sphere" as "own community and organisations". I agree it would be silly to think we couldn't carry out proper audits of such things.

I'm still amused by the idea of us putting together a conceptualisation of rights that grants them to basically everyone but our subordinates though.
 
I am referring to their role as officials under their employ, if you see evidence in that public sphere of malfeansce, that is sufficient to investigate more deeply.

In the parlance of the privacy insight just because the possibility of betrayal has to exist, doesn't mean you can't respond to it once it happens.
 
I'm still amused by the idea of us putting together a conceptualisation of rights that grants them to basically everyone but our subordinates though.

It's why they're well compensated and we make them sign the NDA. We'll value their opinions and consult with them (on everything except privacy) to ensure a healthy work environment.
 
[X] A good neighbor listens without spying, speaks without demanding, takes without dominating, gives without submitting. Respect is the foundation of community.
 
[X] A good neighbor listens without spying, speaks without demanding, takes without dominating, gives without submitting. Respect is the foundation of community.
 
It's kind of annoying to have "person plotting against you" used as an illustrative object here, because nobody suggested otherwise and it elides the actual conflict point of "person just kind of at cross-purposes with you". Which does get covered by the moose example, but man this entire conversation has been full of a lot of pushback against claims that were never made. And a general lack of imagination?

Though on the subject of the moose, I'd point out that "moose says no" isn't actually a dilemma. It's a conclusion. There's no particular narrative tension in that outcome, because it's not something Ling Qi can do anything about. It's just a thing. There'd be nothing Ling Qi could do to develop the situation further, because trying to poke things to instigate something to justify a response that isn't otherwise justified is incoherent nonsense.

My main concern remains the ability of the playerbase writ-large to stay within the standards of the insight, not playing fucky ruleslawyery loophole games with our own psyche, and the constraints on scenarios and how limiting their construction needs to become in yrs' writing to still allow us agency with these new limits. Is this actually, realistically, sustainable in the fullness of time, over the arc of the entire story?

Side-note, laundering stuff through third parties is going to get messy quickly(or worse: slowly), and characters like Jiao, Diao Linqin, etc have been beating us over the head with why so I'm not going to retread that ground.

See, I'm not against that kind of dilemma! I think it's a good trade off for what's otherwise an Insight about Good Behavior in your community.
The operative term here being "trade off". It's not clear what we're actually getting here. It'd have to be pretty amazing, honestly. But then not also break the story through its amazingness.
 
TBH I expect the Moose to maybe pick the fight since as Zhengui grows and claims the land the Moose will probably feel threatened especially since iirc Zhengui said Moose was being a bad lord and hogging everything.
 
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[X] A good neighbor listens without spying, speaks without demanding, takes without dominating, gives without submitting. Respect is the foundation of community.

That's definitely enough for me. Forcing Qi to hit the Cooperate button until the other person Defects, and making that a visible and consistent cornerstone of her behavior, that is extremely valuable to me.
 
I am referring to their role as officials under their employ, if you see evidence in that public sphere of malfeansce, that is sufficient to investigate more deeply.

In the parlance of the privacy insight just because the possibility of betrayal has to exist, doesn't mean you can't respond to it once it happens.
I.e. auditing their accounts is legit, taking the opportunity to check their mail for their domestic affairs is overreach unless you have probable cause that this relates to the corruption?
 
[X] A good neighbor listens without spying, speaks without demanding, takes without dominating, gives without submitting. Respect is the foundation of community.

We are trying to make a better world that actively sucks. These are good ideals to strive for and encourage others to reach for.
 
Oh- other thing to consider?

We are building Ling Qi's way to define success as others taking up her way. Embedding this will spread.
 
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