What should your focus for the rest of the Quest be?


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523.M42 - Upstanding Stellar Nation
Admiral K-531 was currently, and excuse the language, ABSOLUTELY LIVID.

When the order came to re-orient the forces of the Federation toward the threat of Chaos on Saget VII, crushing it with the combined might of nearly all of the Federation soldiers, they had assumed that, though the Mechanicum on Qulach's Forge would be brutal in their demands to the enslaved population, they would generally work on repairing and then rebuilding the holy sites and factories before they thought about arming themselves once more against Glimmerling "Attacks."

Even with the order to take the various Task Forces and two SAGs to establish order and stable governments on the long abandoned and by now likely near/complete anarchic planets of the former Protectorate of Neon, K-531 had assumed that the most challenging part of the decade would be dislodging the forces of the "Ashan Families" that had seized Gheistheim and Rethomum.

In that case, it had turned out that they had willingly let go of Gheistheim and Wiedergang due to the difficulty the locals were giving them (a difficulty that was absent for the Federation due to the locals being granted far more autonomy than they had demanded and were now a bit suspicious about the Federation, but that was neither here nor there). Still, they were demanding that their sovereign rights over Rethomum and Rethomum Majoris be respected from one "Upstanding Stellar Nation to another" and that diplomatic channels be opened to facilitate "trade, goodwill, and non-violent stabilization of collapsed communities in this lawless sector of space."

Seeing as they were trying to open diplomatic channels, Admiral K-531 decided to kick that particular can up the chain of command so they could focus on the actual crisis currently happening, which was occupying the majority of their attention: the Mechanicum on Qulach's Forge had nuked themselves into near-oblivion.

Apparently, the Star-Prophetess had used a large-scale ritual to do something, which had prompted the Mechanicum leaders to go ballistic and throw several nuclear warheads at the ritual site, which impacted after the ritual was completed. The fact that the ritual site was also home to several million people was apparently overlooked in their reaction.

BUT THERE IS MORE.

You see, the ritual site was not only home to several million people who were trying to exist without being vaporized in nuclear annihilation but also the headquarters of those Magi who held sympathies for the Glimmering Federation who had stayed back when the same left to undermine and topple their government to join the Federation in full. With the Federation crushing the attempt to use metals from Node 17c (alongside liberating their enslaved laborers), said faction had gained more followers and influence in the crumbling chain of command, with perhaps only a decade or two separating them from earning enough of an upper hand to rise, successfully even if the Federation came to their aid.

AND THEN THEY SAW THE NUKES.

Under the mistaken assumption that they were the primary target and not merely the collateral victims (recovered records show that they were utterly unaware of the ritual happening, and more than one Choir has confirmed that the after-effects of Tzeentchian Sorceries lingered in the Noosphere, with said sorceries used to block their sensors from detecting the ritual), those Magi launched their attacks, which included launching their own nukes.

So now, K-531 was wholly swamped with trying to evacuate the surviving ~2 billion or so people on Qulach's Forge to rescue them from a planet currently going to Absolute Hell.

So, with all due respect, they were going to focus on saving as many people as possible. The High Council can decide whether the Ashran Families should be kicked out with force or engaged in diplomacy.



And Then There's Those Fuckers:
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[] "Stay the fuck away, assholes."
(Gain Rethomum, Ashran Families are not happy. But you have 3 Battlecruisers and 1 Heavy Cruiser, so they can go pound sand.)

[] "Sure, we can talk."
(Ashran Families keep Rethomum and open up Actions to engage in mutually beneficial diplomacy.)
 
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Dude, we stepped away for three seconds.

Three fucking seconds.

God damnit.

[X] "Sure, we can talk."

Let's just try a diplomacy, maybe we won't be disappointed for once.
 
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I'd say diplomacy. We can see if they need to be punched out later. As long as they aren't Chaos or worst of the Imperials these guys aren't a priority.

We need to prepare for the campaign into subsector 621 to help the previous victims of humanity's folly against the forces of Chaos.
 
It seems I was right about another polity uniting in the north of Macabre, which brings me no pleasure to say. I'm also pretty sure we probably lost the industrial output of the forge due to it being nuked to hell. But hey, at least the Forge is no longer a potential danger in our rear lines.

I'm not exactly sure what to do about the Families mainly because I don't want us to be dragged into another campaign right after the Neon Campaign ended.
 
[X] "Sure, we can talk."

Mother fu- fine! But I expect some executions as part of the diplomacy I don't care if we have to do some favors, this assholes cannot go home thinking we'll let that shi fly without consequences
 


Note that this does not include the 621-Johannes link (because Johannes isn't labelled on the map), or the link from Macabre to an unknown sector.

What do we know about these Ashan/Ashran families?

[X] "Sure, we can talk."
 
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--[X] Our forces are to concentrate when going up against the Macabre forces in Gheistheim or wherever they wind up, and this is also to be a test-run battle for the Leo-Primus. Our message to them to try to get them to retreat before the battle is basically, "Stay out of the fucking Sub-Sector Amratur. Not yours." If they refuse, we kick their asses with the power of a giant fleet, a Heavy Cruiser, and Space Marines. But if we do so, we send the message again. Stay the fuck away, assholes.

Now that we know they're a 4 system polity with 3 contested systems are we still kicking them out of Sub-Sector Amratur?

Also I find it humorous that we're essentially doing to the Ashran the same thing that the Eldars did to us at lone wave. Just on a bigger scale.
 
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[X] "Sure, we can talk."

One front at a time. Also, remember diplomacy is the art of saying nice doggy while reaching for a rock - we can use the time to build up, build better, and deal with the chaos sector
 
[X] "Sure, we can talk."
Starchild, I see that Alpha Legion decided to overcorrect in the department of Qulach's Forge

1. Loyalists probably wanted to weaken the defences with the ritual of hiding subterfuge
2. Chaos probably wanted to corrupt Glimmering sympathisers
Both likely didn't expect nukes to start flying by discount-mech and probably launched counter-strikes independently of each other.
 
Dude, we stepped away for three seconds.

Three fucking seconds.

God damnit.

[X] "Sure, we can talk."

Let's just try a diplomacy, maybe we won't be disappointed for once.
If anything, this provided an in-universe reason to never do shit like this again. That no, we can't just leave Imperial Planets alone and hope having them cut off will allow them to moderate and compromise on their beliefs through sheer necessity. They will just double down, oppress their people harder, and likely destroy themselves without support. All the reason for us to fully commit the next time we attack an Imperial World and how we have to take it for their own good.

[X] "Sure, we can talk."

These guys are willing to do some diplomacy and I don't think that we necessarily need to get them to leave from that one system and can't try our hand at some diplomacy with a nominally friendly power.


Now that we know they're a 4 system polity with 3 contested systems are we still kicking them out of Sub-Sector Amratur?

Also I find it humorous that we're essentially doing to the Ashran the same thing that the Eldars did to us at lone wave. Just on a bigger scale.

We can still try our hand at diplomacy, just so we can at least have this front covered and be focused on 621.
 
[X] "Sure, we can talk."

We can let them keep Rethomun, its not like they can expand futher beyond it. Though, we should colonize Monresast first, just to be sure.
 
[X] "Sure, we can talk."

I guess this mess explains why Tzeentch's name was on top of the map even after his color was gone.

Diplomacy seems like the rational thing to do, but if they are Imperium level bad we take over right?
 
so a new nation recently born is trying to get recognition for its territory?
sure,im fine with it,is not like we were planning to expand any time soon

[X] "Sure, we can talk."
 
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