What should your focus for the rest of the Quest be?


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This is all so cool. The improvements to the armor and weapons is coming along nicely, soon we'll make a massive footnote on the galaxy, though I kinda wish we had an image on what they look like, the armor designs.

But that's just me, hopefully we can get Caiphus if he's still Alvie.
 
I think it was said we'd want at least 2 SAGs with us when we attacked the base, which we can carry in two Taurus'.
Every time I look at the ever-expanding tree of knowledge and its fruits growing higher and higher out of reach, I (lightly, partially) regret not taking the Binary Screeching and it's auto-research effect.

3 actions are the bedrock constraint for us, only occasionally and temporarily broken. Anything that gives us actions, even if only a semi-random action, is like a miracle from the Star Child.
Technically as long as we spend at least 5 actions on research every 10 turns we come out ahead with the option we picked, even excluding the chance of Hereteks joining our cause.
 
This is all so cool. The improvements to the armor and weapons is coming along nicely, soon we'll make a massive footnote on the galaxy, though I kinda wish we had an image on what they look like, the armor designs.

But that's just me, hopefully we can get Caiphus if he's still Alvie.

Long, long dead. He is neither a Biomancer who can just put the brakes on his aging, or valuable enough to get shoved with the Good Juvenat.

That being said, "Agelessness" is easy in 40K, Deathlessness is hard. Of course, this is relatively speaking, we have access to the Good Shit. I imagine the "QoL" benefit in Medical will be having at least enough Juvenat around to make sure the average lifespan is over 100 or so."
 
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Long, long dead. He is neither a Biomancer who can just put the brakes on his aging, or valuable enough to get shoved with the Good Juvenat.

That being said, "Agelessness" is easy in 40K, Deathlessness is hard. Of course, this is relatively speaking, we have access to the Good Shit.
TBF, you could have him be like Admiral Spire from the Battlefleet Gothic: Armada II Campaign where he was lost in the Warp for X amount of time.

Or have him become a Living Saint.
 
Are we still using Furies and Starhawks for our Fighters/Bombers?
Not, you are using, IIRC, 'Oath-Sworn' Bombers and 'Nightsky' Fighters. Both are in-house creations from the days of the Candle Keepers.
Anything that gives us actions, even if only a semi-random action, is like a miracle from the Star Child.
Almost like its intentional game design. :V
imagine if the novel and experimental weapons (or armor) upgrades make the plushies viable blunt force weapons for the ogryns
Are you serious? You held a wargame and had one unit of Ogryns successfully hold a fortress against massive assaults to the point their own commanding officers were under the impression either the Ogryns or their minders were cheating or something had gone wrong, only for the After-Action Report to state that they held the fort because one sharpuktu plushy got "injured" and none of the Ogryns would retreat because they were afraid of worsening the injury.

You tell them to use their plushies as weapons and you'd get the same response as a three-year-old who got their favorite toy ripped from their hands.
I wonder how a single soldier of the Federation, would fare against a single soldier of the Imperium?
Against bog-standard Guard? They'd likely win.
Against specialists/elites? Reasonably well, but the result would be up to the dice.
Against the Elite Elite of the Guard? No.
If I remember correctly there are 4 ships/stations
And they are all interconnected, look at the map. You should be able to conquer them through those connections unless the pirates detach/detonate them, forcing you to make another space assault.
though I kinda wish we had an image on what they look like, the armor designs.
Basically this:


But that's just me, hopefully we can get Caiphus if he's still Alvie.
TBF, you could have him be like Admiral Spire from the Battlefleet Gothic: Armada II Campaign where he was lost in the Warp for X amount of time.
Do you want me to spawn "The Cain" in this Quest? Do you, really, want Me to spawn "Hero of the Imperium Motherfrakking Cain" in this Quest?

I'd do it. I made the cat people canon and gave the Smol Yeens beans, don't you dare think I won't! :anger:
 
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Oh, huh, so we hit Solar Auxilla level gear for our dudes? We weren't quite there before but we're there now?

That's very nice. Very nice indeed!
 
Against bog-standard Guard? They'd likely win.
Against specialists/elites? Reasonably well, but the result would be up to the dice.
Against the Elite Elite of the Guard? No.
Who do you consider to be the Elite Elite of the Guard? And any hints regarding when we'll ever be able to create our own elite units?

I'm assuming it's either a military industry upgrade, maybe combined with medical for augmentation, or when we get the right mix of research unlocks.
 
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Not, you are using, IIRC, 'Oath-Sworn' Bombers and 'Nightsky' Fighters. Both are in-house creations from the days of the Candle Keepers.
How do they compare to the Imperial Navy equivalents?

Oh, huh, so we hit Solar Auxilla level gear for our dudes? We weren't quite there before but we're there now?

That's very nice. Very nice indeed!
Actually, I remember that being similar to the look we had when we first used them on Droma III. We just put all our focus on Quality and it paid off.
Who do you consider to be the Elite Elite of the Guard?
Likely units like the Kasrkin, the elite of the elites of Cadia who have the Mars-Pattern Adamantium Balls to call a Bloodthirster a little bitch to it's face.
 
Long, long dead. He is neither a Biomancer who can just put the brakes on his aging, or valuable enough to get shoved with the Good Juvenat.

That being said, "Agelessness" is easy in 40K, Deathlessness is hard. Of course, this is relatively speaking, we have access to the Good Shit. I imagine the "QoL" benefit in Medical will be having at least enough Juvenat around to make sure the average lifespan is over 100 or so."

That's cool, though I won't lie earlier I was kinda surprised Huron black heart is dead, I'm probably missing context from lore books, but is he actually dead?
 
[X] Plan: This is where we stab a knife into End of Line on the map
-[X] [General] Develop The Federations'...
--[X] Medical Services II
---[X] Medical Services III
-[X] [Military] Begin Military Operations
--[X] OPERATION: NIGHT QUEEN
---[X] TEMPORARY FLEET ADJUSTMENTS: Assign 3x Celestial Choirs to guide our Libras with Task Fleet Alpha, leave 2x Aries-S to escort any Lamenter assets when the time has come to start boarding. Assign 5x Crux to Task Fleet Alpha making use of the extra space we've won from this shuffle to get to 11x Crux-class Frigates in our assault force
---[X] Task Fleet Alpha, carrying the First and Third Droman SAGs. Extra Aries should accompany Lamenter Support as part of the second wave. If Andromedas can depart to shuttle the Second Wave over faster than it would be the Second Wave to arrive themselves, go for it, otherwise, use best discretion.
----[X] On that note, definitely give the Lamenters a heads up that we're Doing Something about the pirates of End of Line, and they're welcome to come along.
----[X] OBJECTIVE: The removal of the pirate presence in End of Line, and the repurposing of its infrastructure to serve the Star-Child.
 
[X] Plan: This is where we stab a knife into End of Line on the map

Punch End of the line and Do two Medical, That's what I devoted to when I voted for the Plan last turn WITHOUT medical.
 
[X] Plan: Cleanse the Pirate filth
-[X] [General] Develop The Federations'...
--[X] Medical Services II
-[X] [General] Research:
—[X] Sanctified Chaos Investigations
-[X] [Military] Begin Military Operations
--[X] OPERATION: NIGHT QUEEN
---[X] TEMPORARY FLEET ADJUSTMENTS: Assign 3x Celestial Choirs to guide our Libras with Task Fleet Alpha, leave 2x Aries-S to escort any Lamenter assets when the time has come to start boarding. Assign 5x Crux to Task Fleet Alpha making use of the extra space we've won from this shuffle to get to 11x Crux-class Frigates in our assault force
---[X] Task Fleet Alpha, carrying the First and Third Droman SAGs. Extra Aries should accompany Lamenter Support as part of the second wave. If Andromedas can depart to shuttle the Second Wave over faster than it would be the Second Wave to arrive themselves, go for it, otherwise, use best discretion.
----[X] On that note, definitely give the Lamenters a heads up that we're Doing Something about the pirates of End of Line, and they're welcome to come along.
----[X] OBJECTIVE: The removal of the pirate presence in End of Line, and the repurposing of its infrastructure to serve the Star-Child
 
[X] Plan: This is where we stab a knife into End of Line on the map
-[X] [General] Develop The Federations'...
--[X] Medical Services II
---[X] Medical Services III
-[X] [Military] Begin Military Operations
--[X] OPERATION: NIGHT QUEEN
---[X] TEMPORARY FLEET ADJUSTMENTS: Assign 3x Celestial Choirs to guide our Libras with Task Fleet Alpha, leave 2x Aries-S to escort any Lamenter assets when the time has come to start boarding. Assign 5x Crux to Task Fleet Alpha making use of the extra space we've won from this shuffle to get to 11x Crux-class Frigates in our assault force
---[X] Task Fleet Alpha, carrying the First and Third Droman SAGs. Extra Aries should accompany Lamenter Support as part of the second wave. If Andromedas can depart to shuttle the Second Wave over faster than it would be the Second Wave to arrive themselves, go for it, otherwise, use best discretion.
----[X] On that note, definitely give the Lamenters a heads up that we're Doing Something about the pirates of End of Line, and they're welcome to come along.
----[X] OBJECTIVE: The removal of the pirate presence in End of Line, and the repurposing of its infrastructure to serve the Star-Child.


This plan works and nice to see we're on average better equipped them the imperial guard. Only reason I feel we wouldn't fair well against the elite elite of the guard is more because of experience then equipment. After all our army has very little experience in warfare and that will take time to gain as well.
 
Next turn barring some fires I think designing Taurus and Crux upgrades would be a viable idea. Then we can convert the old ones the turn after for a big upgrade.

Though this does make me wonder if we're going to run into soft cap on DP since If we keep upgrading than eventually even our
Destroyers will have more DP than an Imperial light Cruiser while being mechanically easier to spam.

This isn't an issue IC since things like Necron Cruisers able to fight off entire battlefleets of battleships exist but it does bring up the question of how do we pay for it . Cause if DP represents a construction cost even if only partially than theoretically higher DP ships should be harder to make in large numbers compared to inferior DP ships of the same class. Like we made our scouts intentionally gimped DP wise cause that made them 'cheaper' but iirc we still produce the same amount of scouts with a single action as other ships of the same weight class so where does that 'cheaper' benefit factor in?
 
Though this does make me wonder if we're going to run into soft cap on DP since If we keep upgrading than eventually even our
Destroyers will have more DP than an Imperial light Cruiser while being mechanically easier to spam.
I think we already have, when we designed the Andromeda and the Libra-S it didn't increase our DP cap. We probably already hit that limit and now we have to do research or increase infrastructure to get more DP.
 
I think we already have, when we designed the Andromeda and the Libra-S it didn't increase our DP cap. We probably already hit that limit and now we have to do research or increase infrastructure to get more DP.
I mean more in a DP cap on how much we can put on our ships. Like is it better to have 30 ships with 13 dp, 20 with 15 or 10 with 17?
 
Who do you consider to be the Elite Elite of the Guard?
The best units from Krieg, Space 'Stralia (Catachan), Elysian Jump Troops, Cadia (Kasrkin) etc.
How do they compare to the Imperial Navy equivalents?
Bad. Around 70% as effective, with a lot more divergence in designs, like linking the pilots/crew together into a noosphere within the craft for better cohesion and performance.
but is [HURON] actually dead?
Not to my knowledge. This is AU territory, so he is here.
O shit we have the old armor?
I feel like people are seriously ignoring/overlooking the "Basically This" portion of the answer to "What do our soldiers looks like" here. :V
Though this does make me wonder if we're going to run into soft cap on DP
You are. The DP you can get via Actions in your current Research is the most you'll get for a long time.
NotteBoy97 said:
if DP represents a construction cost
That's a clash of Lore vs Mechanics. Generally, your government wants the scouts to be minimum-viable to get raw numbers of non-combat ships, while your actual combat ships are the Big Ticket Items they are willing to pay the money/resources for.
 
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