Are these more cognition parts? If they are one should consider reconstituting them instead. On the other hand Amu didn't seem to react to it the same I guess.
Shards of a Broken Sun [Megaten/Shugo Chara/Exalted]
- Thread starter Baughn
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That was a lot more control than Amu displayed at the end of the last update, and a lot closer to the write-ins than to anything predicted for a base option.
Imagine the office gossip around these kids by that point. JP's scientist whispers to the new guy. "See the little one? That's Ami. Couple months back, my daughter said that one showed up in her dreams and helped her understand the quadratic formula. To this day, I still don't know if that was really her."
Another scientist whispers. "The blue one's Miki. Pink one's Amu. Miki was born from a part of Amu's mind. They think of each other as sisters, though. You should have seen their faces when the boss called Amu Miki's mom."
Another joins in. "You know those beanbag chairs in the break room? We didn't buy those. Back after the whole Manticore thing went down, Ami got really bored waiting for her mom to finish all the paperwork. Just spawned a beanbag chair out of thin air to plop down on. Someone said it looked comfy, so she made five more and left them all for us as a gift."
Everyone who'd helped? I wonder if this is referring to Dia, or if it connects to how Saaya broke apart into versions. It doesn't seem to be referring to any of the other characters - they're probably not folding into Amu.
Sure has been a while since we voted to bring them in. I wonder what "moving in your direction" actually involves. Toddling along on their tiny little legs? Hovering really fast? Dream-space-warping? A conjured bicycle?
Not even Ami?
By the time the exaltation happens, JP's staff might be jaded. "Oh, it's the Hinamoris again. What did those kids do this time?"
Imagine the office gossip around these kids by that point. JP's scientist whispers to the new guy. "See the little one? That's Ami. Couple months back, my daughter said that one showed up in her dreams and helped her understand the quadratic formula. To this day, I still don't know if that was really her."
Another scientist whispers. "The blue one's Miki. Pink one's Amu. Miki was born from a part of Amu's mind. They think of each other as sisters, though. You should have seen their faces when the boss called Amu Miki's mom."
Another joins in. "You know those beanbag chairs in the break room? We didn't buy those. Back after the whole Manticore thing went down, Ami got really bored waiting for her mom to finish all the paperwork. Just spawned a beanbag chair out of thin air to plop down on. Someone said it looked comfy, so she made five more and left them all for us as a gift."
So this place is obviously built, at least in part, out of Yui's fears. That scene isn't "actually happening" in the sense that, to whatever extent this was inspired by Yui's actual experiences, those already happened and the people responsible aren't here.
Just killing the evil scientist seems like taking the narrative of this place too literally. There are styles of therapy that talk about re-writing past experiences with better endings, and maybe if this was a therapeutic setting that would be the right way to go, but I think the primary issue at play isn't Yui's actual fears and traumas but that something happened to her to externalise them as this weird extra-dimensional dungeon she seems stuck in.
Smashing the place up seems better, but also sounds like it has a significant risk of badly damaging Yui's mind.
My thought is that Kana is supposedly also here and awake, right? I think we should make a beeline for her, and hope she has a better understanding of this than we have.
Just killing the evil scientist seems like taking the narrative of this place too literally. There are styles of therapy that talk about re-writing past experiences with better endings, and maybe if this was a therapeutic setting that would be the right way to go, but I think the primary issue at play isn't Yui's actual fears and traumas but that something happened to her to externalise them as this weird extra-dimensional dungeon she seems stuck in.
Smashing the place up seems better, but also sounds like it has a significant risk of badly damaging Yui's mind.
My thought is that Kana is supposedly also here and awake, right? I think we should make a beeline for her, and hope she has a better understanding of this than we have.
Baughn
Healing-type writer
- Location
- Dublin
Yep. Midori's approach might not work, but it has the benefit of playing with the nightmare—even if it's going against its plot—instead of tearing apart the fabric that it's made from. Hence it has no skill check needed.
I generally factor discussion into my writing, so even if a write-in doesn't win, I can still take inspiration from it as convenient.
Though also, Amu has quite a fast learning curve. The kid is quite smart.
How long did you have that waiting to hit post? I edited Ami in yesterday sometime.
So.
Hotsuin is going to be mostly amused, when they don't add to his paperwork and/or headaches. Their tricks are neat, and have a lot more utility than "Eat it with a dragon", but nothing Amu is likely to demonstrate will suggest she could be a danger to him, or would want to be.
Everyone else though.
Winged One
Not the Simurgh
- Location
- definitely the ground
- Pronouns
- They/Them/It
Is my write-in idea distinct enough to be its own thing?
Baughn
Healing-type writer
- Location
- Dublin
Yes, although I'd recommend stepping back and taking a good look at the situation.
Winged One
Not the Simurgh
- Location
- definitely the ground
- Pronouns
- They/Them/It
Hm... are we in a nightmare of how Yui could have died? If so:
[] Amu: historical de-revisionism
-[] You know how this really ended. Summon an illusion of Kana with a gun to rescue her.
Integrity training at work?
*looks at Amu is a Shadow discussion*
Hmm... Overgrowth? Integrity? Looking at Saaya's segments again here would likely be relevant here
... is there a in-character Recall check for what we got from the previous RC?
Socialise/Deception/Manipulation dots at work narratively I assume?
What's going on here?
(Amu has baseline 7 dice for the DC3 option, Utau baseline 8. Plus 2WP and Dumpty Key and 1dice stunt we might have 12 dice if Utau does it, but is even a success actually what we want here?)
The million dollar question is what Kana did in previous situations, and if we can adapt that over here?
Also, @Baughn, where are the salvaged pieces of Yui again?
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Baughn
Healing-type writer
- Location
- Dublin
Inside the Dumpty Key, at least from Amu's perspective.
No, that's just automatic. This doesn't feel connected, but—spoiler alert—Kana and Yui have both attempted self-therapy via crayon drawing.
Or she's just that nice!
Amu thinks she's just that nice. Utau thinks her adoptive parents are trying too hard. She likes them, but- she was adopted as a fifteen-year-old.
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... I had an idea of Stunting for training votes
Amu: Integrity/Mind Control (or Illusion, but Mind Control fits better)
Utau: Lightsmithing/Pyroglyphics
where the idea was on Amu's end to allow Utau to reduce the mental block on using her powers at full power by showing her that it can be beneficial and/or just talk about what happened in this Chapter,
and on Utau's end to make sure Amu can identify foreign influences and remain herself if Amu is going to keep doing Amu Things in the future.
"If you think it works, it works (up to a certain extent)"?
Stuff that works to clear fog effectively (aside from the Utau rejection beam and Amu fox partitioning attempt), but unironically is the fog a bad thing here?
[] Plan Stepping Back For A Moment
-[] Utau: Ask for help
-[] Amu: How did Kana handle this again? Where is Kana?
(Having Hikaru around to punch things would be useful if things come to that, and having Ami help navigate would be fine as long as we take extra care to avoid spending her WP?)
-[] Utau: Ask for help
-[] Amu: How did Kana handle this again? Where is Kana?
(Having Hikaru around to punch things would be useful if things come to that, and having Ami help navigate would be fine as long as we take extra care to avoid spending her WP?)
Not insignificant chance Kana is behind this gate, but...
It was sitting around in my "assorted thoughts" draft for over a day. I was actually fiddling with the draft when the update went up. I've usually got a bunch of stuff in there that I'm holding off on posting for various reasons.How long did you have that waiting to hit post? I edited Ami in yesterday sometime.
Once again, we see a character being embarrassed about dressing like an anime character.
I wonder if Fumi has her canon dress lying around in her closet, and she just feels too silly to wear it to work in this story.
Ran kind of feels more like a lowercase-p persona than a chara here.
Miki doesn't seem to be a chara any more. I wonder if Ran and Su aren't quite charas any more either.
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Sounds like a 2 dot Mind Control thing then?
Interesting, I'd assume the charas would also not be fine in that case (because Amu isn't fine), I wonder how that works?
- Location
- Laniakea
So a pertinent question that needs to be asked at this point is: "Which one of these is the real Yui?"
However, we also know from Ami that people's "dream selves" don't have to look like them when Dreamwalking, so it is also possible that this crayon disaster is what non-Shadow Yui has envisioned herself as in her domain. We have gotten told Yui also tried crayon-therapy and if Kana's drawings were any example, probably drew what she thought of as herself at some point.
Again though, she could just be imagining herself younger in her own domain.
Again, though, Yui could look like anything in a dream including something with claws.
It could be that none of these are the real her.
Or it could also be that all of them are and that she's somehow fragmented her consciousness across multiple different cognitive constructs within the domain. This seems unlikely to me, because Amu could still "sense" Yui before, even if she felt a little off, and I would think she would have sensed something a lot stronger if Yui had fragmented herself to the kind of extent Saaya had before.
Currently leaning towards calling in Ami and Hikaru for more insight. Hikaru probably wouldn't be able to provide much outside of more firepower if things go sour, but Ami's Navigation specialty should be able to give us something more concrete to work with.
With the current lack of knowledge, killing the "murderer" is a risky prospect - if that's Yui's Shadow, killing it will give her a mental shutdown. Tearing down the place is also risky in a more blatant, dice roll way. If it goes south, something is going to get damaged whether that's Yui or the character trying to crush the domain.
@Baughn - Can Amu currently sense Kana, or is she still out of range?
This sounds like it could be Yui's Shadow Self, especially given it apparently has some control over the mist and can freely move around the domain, if you ignore that Shadow Selves aren't supposed to be crayon drawings with misshapen bottom halves. If we were following Persona 5 rules, I'd say this was a Cognition, but this isn't precisely a Palace and Persona 5 rules are not guaranteed to be in play.
However, we also know from Ami that people's "dream selves" don't have to look like them when Dreamwalking, so it is also possible that this crayon disaster is what non-Shadow Yui has envisioned herself as in her domain. We have gotten told Yui also tried crayon-therapy and if Kana's drawings were any example, probably drew what she thought of as herself at some point.
This one is superficially Yui, but we don't know whether it really is her or just something that looks like her. Or rather, a younger version of her. I don't think Yui is five years old, IIRC Amu's identified her as being around 7 or 8 and the blank expression does not exactly scream being something with any self-awareness.
Again though, she could just be imagining herself younger in her own domain.
We don't get a clear look at the shadow looming behind her, but it could very well be Yui's Shadow Self. In Persona 3, Strega needed the Persona suppressants because their own Personas would end up killing them otherwise and we know the Scavengers are apparently on Persona and Shadow suppressants. This could be the result of not taking them and her own Shadow trying to kill her. Claws imply something inhuman.
Again, though, Yui could look like anything in a dream including something with claws.
It could be that none of these are the real her.
Or it could also be that all of them are and that she's somehow fragmented her consciousness across multiple different cognitive constructs within the domain. This seems unlikely to me, because Amu could still "sense" Yui before, even if she felt a little off, and I would think she would have sensed something a lot stronger if Yui had fragmented herself to the kind of extent Saaya had before.
Currently leaning towards calling in Ami and Hikaru for more insight. Hikaru probably wouldn't be able to provide much outside of more firepower if things go sour, but Ami's Navigation specialty should be able to give us something more concrete to work with.
With the current lack of knowledge, killing the "murderer" is a risky prospect - if that's Yui's Shadow, killing it will give her a mental shutdown. Tearing down the place is also risky in a more blatant, dice roll way. If it goes south, something is going to get damaged whether that's Yui or the character trying to crush the domain.
@Baughn - Can Amu currently sense Kana, or is she still out of range?
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Nero200
High Priest of Eito, Part Time Nyar.
[X] Write In
[X]Utau: That is quite enough. Lunatic Charm, Concert Mode.
- Utau has had more than enough. This place resonates with a very dark memory she's kept hidden inside, and she's figured out what she did wrong before.
- And those same dark memories can provide the tools to save someone else from it. Lunatic Charm, without holding back this time. Rebellion is not constrained by embarrassment or propriety, and Utau has brought hundreds of children to their knees under her songs before.
- The collective unconscious is leaking it's various aspects in here, into this facsimile of a Midnight Channel. It's trying to boot the 'recovery.exe', spawning a dungeon and possible separating out the shadow self to give Yui a fair chance, but Yui isn't together enough to handle that.
- Fix this world into proper shape. Not just screaming at the fog to leave, that isn't the right method, bring it to heel-heal.
- Put the... shadows into proper order within Yui's psyche once more.
- Sing as the pied piper to entrance every shadow-piece-thread out of hiding as it should have been, if the world was a better place.
- If it will help, use the Key to draw on Su via Amu, and use Utau's own recovery and history as a person to provide a template.
- On a similar note, if needed tap Hikaru for power if he will allow. He seems to be.... something of a younger brother figure, in Utau's rather muddy understanding of family? But he is willing to help. His power to Utau's purpose would be a hell of a help if something in here decides to object to a 'fair' fight.
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I do love Utau POV. She makes a lot more intrinsic sense, as a person, to me than Amu does.
Bloody hell indeed.
Anyhow!
Most these default vote options are bad ones, provided by people that are either fuelled by horror or just took massive mental strain.
Only the last one is an actually smart thing to do, but even that isn't really worth going with.
Ami plays by the dreams rules, and Hikaru is just a raw power solution to enable their instinctive reach for destruction.
Utau is the worlds strongest empath, by any standards we have been given.
Playing by the rules? The 'physics' constructed by Manticores torture?
Repeating the past, that loops back to here if Kana isn't close enough to hold the threads of self together?
Fuck all of that. Utau has the power and skill to bring a stadium of people under her song, and that was when she was an abused kid with little idea of what she was actually doing.
Breaking the fog was a mistake that wasted her potential.
Telling it to go 'away' and blasting it was... well, Utau was literally attacking mist.
She's taken too many pointers from Solar-to-be Amu.
This world is some kind of collective consciousness construct, power filtered through the broken shell that is Yui's psyche.
'Breaking' anything in a world like this just means hurting Yui.
That's not how you fight this sort of thing.
It's not how the Midnight channels ever worked, truly, and that's the closest approximation we have for this.
The combat was only ever to last long enough to make it to the important bit, where people realised what was wrong.
Hold off the boss / Shadow Self long enough for the original to resolve and accept their shadow.
(And just to get there to help in the first place)
Yui is too far gone for that 'realisation' as is, so we will be assisting. Kana could hold her together, apparently, so there's precedent.
We will put her back (and the funhouse) together enough to 'resolve' in persona terms, setting the stage by twisting this warped world into such.
The singer as a stagehand, in a way.
Changing it, bringing it into line with how the world should be? That's closer. Ideally we would be able to just do it all 'manually', but the rules of the systems involved normally require the person themselves to make the choice, assuming this is something close to a Midnight Channel.
So lets do that. Put this 'dungeon' into the shape it should be, if all those systems and rules were in place, rather than a doomed child's flailing in the dark of the collective unconscious.
I do need to ask a question of dearest QM @Baughn that might refine the vote though.
Using the pieces of Yui laying around, can Utau invoke Ragged Crossroads to find a variant that escaped with less damage?
The closest iteration of this child that wasn't doomed to this kind of inevitable doom by Manticore?
It would help a lot to have an example-Yui that made it, rather than relying on Su's general 'wellness' and Utau's own recovery path.
[X]Utau: That is quite enough. Lunatic Charm, Concert Mode.
- Utau has had more than enough. This place resonates with a very dark memory she's kept hidden inside, and she's figured out what she did wrong before.
- And those same dark memories can provide the tools to save someone else from it. Lunatic Charm, without holding back this time. Rebellion is not constrained by embarrassment or propriety, and Utau has brought hundreds of children to their knees under her songs before.
- The collective unconscious is leaking it's various aspects in here, into this facsimile of a Midnight Channel. It's trying to boot the 'recovery.exe', spawning a dungeon and possible separating out the shadow self to give Yui a fair chance, but Yui isn't together enough to handle that.
- Fix this world into proper shape. Not just screaming at the fog to leave, that isn't the right method, bring it to heel-heal.
- Put the... shadows into proper order within Yui's psyche once more.
- Sing as the pied piper to entrance every shadow-piece-thread out of hiding as it should have been, if the world was a better place.
- If it will help, use the Key to draw on Su via Amu, and use Utau's own recovery and history as a person to provide a template.
- On a similar note, if needed tap Hikaru for power if he will allow. He seems to be.... something of a younger brother figure, in Utau's rather muddy understanding of family? But he is willing to help. His power to Utau's purpose would be a hell of a help if something in here decides to object to a 'fair' fight.
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I do love Utau POV. She makes a lot more intrinsic sense, as a person, to me than Amu does.
Bloody hell indeed.
Anyhow!
Most these default vote options are bad ones, provided by people that are either fuelled by horror or just took massive mental strain.
Only the last one is an actually smart thing to do, but even that isn't really worth going with.
Ami plays by the dreams rules, and Hikaru is just a raw power solution to enable their instinctive reach for destruction.
Utau is the worlds strongest empath, by any standards we have been given.
Playing by the rules? The 'physics' constructed by Manticores torture?
Repeating the past, that loops back to here if Kana isn't close enough to hold the threads of self together?
Fuck all of that. Utau has the power and skill to bring a stadium of people under her song, and that was when she was an abused kid with little idea of what she was actually doing.
Breaking the fog was a mistake that wasted her potential.
Telling it to go 'away' and blasting it was... well, Utau was literally attacking mist.
She's taken too many pointers from Solar-to-be Amu.
This world is some kind of collective consciousness construct, power filtered through the broken shell that is Yui's psyche.
'Breaking' anything in a world like this just means hurting Yui.
That's not how you fight this sort of thing.
It's not how the Midnight channels ever worked, truly, and that's the closest approximation we have for this.
The combat was only ever to last long enough to make it to the important bit, where people realised what was wrong.
Hold off the boss / Shadow Self long enough for the original to resolve and accept their shadow.
(And just to get there to help in the first place)
Yui is too far gone for that 'realisation' as is, so we will be assisting. Kana could hold her together, apparently, so there's precedent.
We will put her back (and the funhouse) together enough to 'resolve' in persona terms, setting the stage by twisting this warped world into such.
The singer as a stagehand, in a way.
Changing it, bringing it into line with how the world should be? That's closer. Ideally we would be able to just do it all 'manually', but the rules of the systems involved normally require the person themselves to make the choice, assuming this is something close to a Midnight Channel.
So lets do that. Put this 'dungeon' into the shape it should be, if all those systems and rules were in place, rather than a doomed child's flailing in the dark of the collective unconscious.
I do need to ask a question of dearest QM @Baughn that might refine the vote though.
Using the pieces of Yui laying around, can Utau invoke Ragged Crossroads to find a variant that escaped with less damage?
The closest iteration of this child that wasn't doomed to this kind of inevitable doom by Manticore?
It would help a lot to have an example-Yui that made it, rather than relying on Su's general 'wellness' and Utau's own recovery path.
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- Location
- Laniakea
Hey.
Just collecting ONE fragment had Amu huffing like she was running a marathon.
You want to try and get Amu and do it for every shadow in the whole domain? Utau can't do it, only Amu knows that technique and only because she fixed Saaya using something similar and even if Utau could be taught, I don't reckon the two have enough collective stamina between them to do it for EVERY shadow.
I was actually thinking about trying to have Amu to "collect" the crayon-girl shadow, but the fact that the fox exhausted her put me off that idea.
Every shadow does not sound feasible given the fatigue evidenced to accompany it.
Nero200
High Priest of Eito, Part Time Nyar.
No, not to do it manually and take them apart for collection.
Utau doesn't use Mind Control, she uses empathy. Completely different approach.
That's why I said Pied Piper, I'm intending Utau to just UMI soak the entire place as a kick towards the normal Midnight Channel setup, rather than doing it 'thread by thread'.
I'll fix my wording on that.
Unfortunately, we know literally none of this IC so this write-in automatically collapses without further justification as to how you got to this conclusion? (And OOC knowledge isn't guaranteed to be applicable here)
Nero200
High Priest of Eito, Part Time Nyar.
I'm very much hoping that my guesses are correct, since Baughn has been leaning hard on Persona themes for the Scavangers, and that the underlaying systems of the collective unconsciousness will kick in while Utau is pulling the world back together.
And that using Empathy to show the 'total' Yui the steps of recovery that Utau herself took out of a similar (though less intense) dark place.
Ideally, this kickstarts the midnight channel mechanics into motion.
Ie: Utau uses her abilities to try and fix the funhouse we are in, pulling it back to what it should be (as a representation of Yui / the real house), rousing the scattered parts of Yui, and smoothening out the distortions by empathically projecting her own realisations and growth.
(No way Manticore was actually this... horror aesthetic. Terrible, yes, but they wouldn't have had a medieval mad scientists laboratory, it would have been a much more modern horror. This is the effect of Yui's trauma melding with the tropes and concepts of the CU that is leaking through.)
And that causes the things we know about OoC, the Persona stuff, to kick in and take over where she is probably going to fail.
Utau has been realising things while in here, and I'm somewhat sure they are the same ones we have been, just without the context of being certain that the Persona system is what's behind all this.
She's seen the shadow, seen the way the world is much worse than it realistically could have been, and the way it's not able to hold itself together. And she has a failed attempt to interface with it under her belt to use as a basis for a new angle of attack.
She's also seen that something is clearly trying to fix itself here, with the fox, and that the Key is giving off opinions on what's going on.
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So this is basically a Stunt for the Utau tears everything down (in a constructive manner) write-in?
(1: This is obviously more exaggerated than reality
2: But things are trying to fix themselves and failing here
3: (missing, something Key something something)
4: Given past failures, Utau now should have a better idea of what to do [leveraging narrative in the CU, not that she knows of that reasoning]
5: To let the system/Yui attempt to fix herself after some assistance)
She'd probably have a total of 12/13 dice here (2WP, 2 dice stunt) in this case for a DC 3, you ok with that?
Personally I don't see a reason to speedrun (lol) this yet, in lieu of at least waiting and trying to figure out what Kana did through finding her / bringing our (relative) Collective Unconsciousness expert over?
@Baughn At the risk of collapsing the WP wave-function, what's the WP left for our favourite protagonists present here?
(But the crayon-girl shadow is not exactly co-operative here, so that might make things more difficult)
Now that we know beyond the shadow of a doubt Yui's situation is bad, should we Exit Stage Left and give Lulu Yui's situation (anonymised) to ask for her input on what we can/should do?
(1: This is obviously more exaggerated than reality
2: But things are trying to fix themselves and failing here
3: (missing, something Key something something)
4: Given past failures, Utau now should have a better idea of what to do [leveraging narrative in the CU, not that she knows of that reasoning]
5: To let the system/Yui attempt to fix herself after some assistance)
She'd probably have a total of 12/13 dice here (2WP, 2 dice stunt) in this case for a DC 3, you ok with that?
Personally I don't see a reason to speedrun (lol) this yet, in lieu of at least waiting and trying to figure out what Kana did through finding her / bringing our (relative) Collective Unconsciousness expert over?
@Baughn At the risk of collapsing the WP wave-function, what's the WP left for our favourite protagonists present here?
Eating 1WP to get a better idea of what is going on (or at least more data points to fit things through) might not be the worst of ideas IMO.
(But the crayon-girl shadow is not exactly co-operative here, so that might make things more difficult)
Now that we know beyond the shadow of a doubt Yui's situation is bad, should we Exit Stage Left and give Lulu Yui's situation (anonymised) to ask for her input on what we can/should do?
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Nero200
High Priest of Eito, Part Time Nyar.
Pretty much.
Stunt for:
1: Utau notices that this world seems to be trying to fix itself, and failing.
2: This world is worse than it should probably be.
3: Utau has tried to interact with it, and failed.
4: Utau uses her best ability, AoE Empathy, to try and 'reset' the place, providing it with her own history of recovering from a similar dark place, and possibly Su's mental healing portfolio to help it achieve what it seems to be aiming for.
5: CU narrative track catches and runs, with assistance as need be.
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Aside from that, I have since realised something else, a thought that should have occured to me much earlier.
I no longer think that this is Yui's midnight channel.
I think it's Kana's.
Yui is providing the access point / fog / tv world, yes. But Kana is also trapped in here somewhere. Asleep.
At the end of the dungeon, quite possibly.
Ie: Yui has turned the house into something like the Tv World, and Kana is the 'target' that has been pushed into a Tv.
This adds up to something akin to Chie and Yukiko's layered issues in P4.
This doesn't actually change my intended vote at all, but it changes how we should be looking at the scenario if I'm right.
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- Location
- Laniakea
What aspects of the domain did you see that you think appear to belong to Kana?
Nero200
High Priest of Eito, Part Time Nyar.
The crayon drawings. The ongoing crayon drawings that keep being mentioned as forming the doors and the drawing of Yui herself.
- Location
- Laniakea
Apparently, Yui's done crayon drawings as well.
If there is anything from Kana mixed in to this domain - there could be - I don't think there's any clear-cut evidence of it so far.
That's partially why I asked whether Amu can still sense Kana. If she can and it feels like Kana's right behind that door, there's a chance that the "murderer" might actually be Kana or her Shadow Self (and then the crayon shadow could be Yui's).
So there's an equal likelihood they are also hers.
If there is anything from Kana mixed in to this domain - there could be - I don't think there's any clear-cut evidence of it so far.
That's partially why I asked whether Amu can still sense Kana. If she can and it feels like Kana's right behind that door, there's a chance that the "murderer" might actually be Kana or her Shadow Self (and then the crayon shadow could be Yui's).
I don't think we can conclude that much from just the crayon aesthetic.
I sure hope we get through this in time for the check-in. It'd be awkward to finish the dungeon crawl, only to hear JP's ringing the doorbell.
And I sure hope the reason we haven't sensed the other Scavengers isn't because the rest already died.