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Yes, her Lash-given Demonsense.
Also Lash herself can support her, play spotter.
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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Also Lash herself can support her, play spotter.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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She has Acute Senses and Thoughts of Oak Defense.
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
Oh right I need to look at the character page again.
[X] Drawing upon your Essence you armor yourself in stone and brass and fiery purpose, a crown upon your head (Enter Shintai)
-[X] Only one try, you can't spare the Essence for two tries. Activate Steel Skin in addition to the hopefully already-active VLE and use Melee Excellency once you get in range
-[X] Lydia beats up Sandra if she sees her, if that works well shoot her deathbolts at the Dragon afterwards
-[X] Harry uses shields and straightforward Forces attacks as he sees fit
-[X] Lash supports Lydia in finding Sandra, and if need be hitting her with the offensive version of Lore of Light 1. Also take Apocalyptic form for safety.
-[X] Adkins and Harrowmont stay back, ready to support if they can from a distance. Use the last Ra-grenade.
-[X] Our Fireteam spreads out and uses laser, minimize the vulnerability to AoE attacks. Go all in on using Rage for multi-attacks until the barrels are glowing.
Replies later, when hopefully I have time.
Im honestly a little surprised that we're only looking at a Red Court dragon, Sandra Marling and miscellaneous lesser Outsiders.
I was genuinely expecting to run into the missing Summer Court fae, Lady Ellawyn, here.
Maybe she's elsewhere.
Especially not in front of an enemy faction that has a history of doing things like trying to injure Summer Lady Lily instead of aiding Iku Turso in his fight. Or getting the changeling girl to murder her brother.
Some Outsiders do appear to understand and indulge spite.
The more eyes, the better.
2) Adkins has True Faith.
Thats a nontrivial advantage with Red Court and Outsiders about.
3)The Sin-Eater is explicit about the deployment of lesser Outsiders here, and we know that lesser Outsiders can have a negotiable relationship with physical reality. If you leave them behind, there is a significant risk they get murdered outside of range of backup. Or an Outsider tries to possess them as a weapon for later.
Im honestly a little surprised that we're only looking at a Red Court dragon, Sandra Marling and miscellaneous lesser Outsiders.
I was genuinely expecting to run into the missing Summer Court fae, Lady Ellawyn, here.
Maybe she's elsewhere.
Never split the party.
Especially not in front of an enemy faction that has a history of doing things like trying to injure Summer Lady Lily instead of aiding Iku Turso in his fight. Or getting the changeling girl to murder her brother.
Some Outsiders do appear to understand and indulge spite.
1) They both have equivalent or better occult senses than the majority of our shooters.
The more eyes, the better.
2) Adkins has True Faith.
Thats a nontrivial advantage with Red Court and Outsiders about.
3)The Sin-Eater is explicit about the deployment of lesser Outsiders here, and we know that lesser Outsiders can have a negotiable relationship with physical reality. If you leave them behind, there is a significant risk they get murdered outside of range of backup. Or an Outsider tries to possess them as a weapon for later.
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- Germany
Or that is just a change DP made from the RPG setting.
We never heard of a Summer presence in Vegas and neither Winter.
Especially the latter would be weird, since Maeve would have mentioned it.
I think in this setting there are no Fey other than Wildfey active here.
Yep, there is no Court fey presence in the city, by treaty, that is the reason why Maeve had you investigate.
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I think he was referring to the remaining Nfected Summer Court fae, who (IIRC) escaped our (and Titania's) attempts to capture and exorcise.
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
1) Not worth the risk of them getting killed or taken hostage or us having to protect them instead of pressing the attack imo.
2) True faith isn't going to save him in a lot of scenarios. Like grenades chucked at him while everyone is occupied or the Dragon targeting him while we are fighting an Outsider. Bringing more squishes means we'll have to protect them which means we'll be less effective at killing the other guy.
3) Point.
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I'd prefer to keep Adkins and the Librarian at the edge of the combat, close to our ranged troops but behind even those, still in sight though.
Getting any closer leaves them vulnerable to die by a stray hit from the Dragon, or some AoE attack he might use.
While they are still close enough that the guys with the lasers or Harry can react to a shout and shoot the sneaky mini-outsiders who might try to kill them.
Getting any closer leaves them vulnerable to die by a stray hit from the Dragon, or some AoE attack he might use.
While they are still close enough that the guys with the lasers or Harry can react to a shout and shoot the sneaky mini-outsiders who might try to kill them.
Hell, they could get both, even. If one of them doesn't make it.
I'd say both are bad candidates for Exaltation because virtually everyone is a bad candidate for Exaltation,
And by virtually everyone there are probably between a handful and zero people on the planet who can be both trusted with a solar grade Exaltation and would be able to earn one.
Michael Carpenter may be literally the only person I'd trust with one.
And by virtually everyone there are probably between a handful and zero people on the planet who can be both trusted with a solar grade Exaltation and would be able to earn one.
Michael Carpenter may be literally the only person I'd trust with one.
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That's not how it works though.
The Exaltation picks someone, you work with what you have.
Lydia isn't exactly the best person for cosmic power either, neither is Molly.
We make do.
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What's the saying…
"Power Corrupts, Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely?"
And an Exaltation is probably among the closest things to the latter that isn't under the direct purview of a higher power.
As stated, there are very few people who not only can be trusted to wield an Exaltation, but who also have the moral imperviousness to withstand the corrupting nature of such extraordinary power over any sort of long term. Michael Carpenter, as stated, would be such a person (so long as nothing catastrophic happens to his family; losing his family might be one of the few things that could make him crack), but I for one cannot think of any others.
Hell, we've already seen Molly make one or two such compromises on occasion, IIRC.
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Read the rest of that chapter, the minimum is that it's a portal, she doesn't know if it's also something else.
The reason that Winter doesn't want to invade is because it'd be a new front. One critter isn't a front. The guys who sealed it off were worried about things coming through, not something waking up. Presumably every expert who's poked this being concerned about the same fail state means something.
It being living or dead doesn't make a difference because we can't say with any certainty if killing a living door and collapsing an inanimate tunnel are different. Maybe they're both safe, maybe they're both dangerous, but nothing we have right now actually substantiates the idea that this uncertainty changes what it does or alters the risk profile of messing with it.
To be specific an Exaltation makes the mortal a higher, or lower, power. That is the whole point of them.
1) Lydia does not go up against Sandra alone.
That would be unwise, since we dont know what Sandra has in personal reserve.
Instead she actually supports the teams and they work as a team. If Sandra runs, no problem we pursue her as a team; crossing into the NeverNever simply dumps her into Maeve's waiting arms. Or Molly does. Splitting the party for anyone not a Celestial Exalt with spare Essence will be painful.
Also?
Because she actually regens Essence from killing shit permanently and making their ghosts move on, she probably benefits from killing Rampires and half-Reds.
Lydia has 3/7 Essence left, and with Marble Skin active, only 6 Soak(Stamina 2 + Marble Skin 4) and 13HLs.
Spend 1m for Steelskin for + Stamina, and 1m for Meditation of Stone, which doubles Stamina after bonuses, which should get her to at least 12 Soak. That leaves her with 1m.
You dont go up against an Outsider mage with 1m of Essence, no shaping defense and no countermagic.
Fall back and let the Infernal do it.
2)Lash pops full Apocalyptic Form with all her Low Torment traits.
This gives a chance for Revelation and passive Faith regen from everyone else here.
LOW TORMENT
Enhanced Social Traits: Lash's grace, poise and beauty is now more than merely human. +2 Charisma, +1 Manipulation, +2 Appearance
Marble Flesh: Lash gains 4 soak-dice against any type of damage
Wings: Lash's Wings allow her to fly at up to three times her land-speed
Improved Dexterity: +2 Dexterity
HIGH TORMENT
Claws: Deal Str +2 Aggravated damage
Mist-Wreathed: +2 Difficulty on ranged attacks against Lash, +1 on melee attacks
Relentless: Lash is unaffected by fatigue or hunger in this form and can move forward inexhaustibly
Enhanced Perception: +2 Perception
Enhanced Social Traits: Lash's grace, poise and beauty is now more than merely human. +2 Charisma, +1 Manipulation, +2 Appearance
Marble Flesh: Lash gains 4 soak-dice against any type of damage
Wings: Lash's Wings allow her to fly at up to three times her land-speed
Improved Dexterity: +2 Dexterity
HIGH TORMENT
Claws: Deal Str +2 Aggravated damage
Mist-Wreathed: +2 Difficulty on ranged attacks against Lash, +1 on melee attacks
Relentless: Lash is unaffected by fatigue or hunger in this form and can move forward inexhaustibly
Enhanced Perception: +2 Perception
=Mist-Wreathed Form(+2DC against ranged attacks, +1DC against melee attacks)
=+2 Perception
3)Lash has Flesh 2: Manipulate Nerves, which allows her to buff people's Dexterity, Perception or manipulate their wound penalties for an entire scene. No penalty, no cost.
She can do that for herself, Harry, Lydia, Harrowmont and Adkins.
If the QM gives enough time, she could do it for every Hand member here: 20x people at 3 seconds each is 1 minute.
3 seconds a turn, roll Intelligence 4 + Medicine 4 at DC7 for an average of +3 Dexterity, or roll at DC9 for an average of +1 Perception. Thats 15 seconds to buff herself and the rest of the war party excluding Molly, or 90 seconds if you include the 25 special forces soldiers also here.
If Molly is popping shintai, she probably doesnt need it.
If she isnt, she could use the extra Dex.
What @TonedMite said.
I was talking about Ellawyn, the Nfested Fae that escaped the Summer purge and is on the run.
I expected to find her in this city in Sandra's retinue as an intitial destination.
Thats a change. Springs Preserve used to be the only Court outpost in Las Vegas, and it belonged to Summer.
1) Leave them behind, and you're basically rolling the gacha for if they are killed, possessed, or taken hostage.
We brought them into a base we know was controlled by an Outsider cultist with preptime.
We always expected them to run into this amount of force. They knew it too.
2)True Faith matters in this scenario.
Most of the potential combatants are Rampires, who are vulnerable to symbols of faith. The rest are Outsiders, who avoid that kind of smoke for a reason.
And keeping them with everyone else means that they are actually in range of ppl with field first aid kits.
Tuck them in with Harry et al, who get to work as a cohesive team of ranged fire support, with Lydia, Harry and Lash all having ranged attack options, and Lydia being the backup melee specialist for anyone who wants a punchup.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
Will this work?
[X] Not Splitting The Party
-[X] Drawing upon your Essence you armor yourself in stone and brass and fiery purpose, a crown upon your head (Enter Shintai)
-[X] Only one try, you can't spare the Essence for two tries. Activate Steel Skin and All Things Betray in addition to the hopefully already-active VLE and use Melee Excellency once you get in range.
-[X] Lydia, Lash, and Harry, with support form the fire team, handle Sandra and whatever forces remain available to her. Adkin and Harrowmont accompany the group and provide what aid they can, including use the sun charm at an opportune moment.
--[X] Lash uses Flesh 2 to boost the group's Dexterity as much as possible as quickly as possible without expending resources. If there is time available, she will boost as many fire team members as she can before the fighting starts. For the fight, she activates her Apocalyptic Form (all Low Torment traits, plus spend 2/10 Torment for Mist-wreathed Form and +2 Perception).
--[X] Lydia provides support against remaining Rampires and their mooks, conserving her Essence for an emergency.
--[X] Harry acts to shield the group as necessary while engaging Sandra and whatever Outsider forces she has at hand.
--[X] Our fire team spreads out to minimize their vulnerability to AoE attacks. They fully activate their augments and go weapons free without regard for conserving ammo.
[X] Not Splitting The Party
-[X] Drawing upon your Essence you armor yourself in stone and brass and fiery purpose, a crown upon your head (Enter Shintai)
-[X] Only one try, you can't spare the Essence for two tries. Activate Steel Skin and All Things Betray in addition to the hopefully already-active VLE and use Melee Excellency once you get in range.
-[X] Lydia, Lash, and Harry, with support form the fire team, handle Sandra and whatever forces remain available to her. Adkin and Harrowmont accompany the group and provide what aid they can, including use the sun charm at an opportune moment.
--[X] Lash uses Flesh 2 to boost the group's Dexterity as much as possible as quickly as possible without expending resources. If there is time available, she will boost as many fire team members as she can before the fighting starts. For the fight, she activates her Apocalyptic Form (all Low Torment traits, plus spend 2/10 Torment for Mist-wreathed Form and +2 Perception).
--[X] Lydia provides support against remaining Rampires and their mooks, conserving her Essence for an emergency.
--[X] Harry acts to shield the group as necessary while engaging Sandra and whatever Outsider forces she has at hand.
--[X] Our fire team spreads out to minimize their vulnerability to AoE attacks. They fully activate their augments and go weapons free without regard for conserving ammo.
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- Germany
Could work.
We'd have to survive a bit as the only melee fighter facing the Dragon, while the others are cleaning up mooks and knocking out Sandra (if she is still here and didn't flee once we got close).
But we are very survivable, especially in Shintai, so I like the odds.
Still, I'd prefer to have the Fire Teams on dragon-shooting rather than Sandra.
They just showed how useful massed fire is against big targets.
Yes, it should work. The one addition I would make would be to add All Things Betray to boost Molly's Perception rolls.
Molly is Dex 4. Shintai adds +4, making her Dex 8.
If she gets the average buff from Manipulate Flesh, that should rise to Dex 11.
Dex 11 + Melee 5 + Stunt 2 + Without Honor 2 = 20 dice.
Which should mean she wont need to spend Essence on Melee Excellencies, and can spend them on other things.
IF she adds an Excellency, it becomes something obscene like 36 dice.
Which should be enough to murderblend most shit.
It also increases her sprint speed from 32 yards/turn to 53 yards/turn.
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BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
I didn't even want to bring them down here to begin with but yeah.
True faith is not going to save him in a number of scenarios, like if they chuck grenades at him or the Dragon singles him out while we are occupied.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
Added ATB to my plan.
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- Germany
What's Average here?
The description of Manipulate Flesh is uncomfortably vague, saying "7 or 8" difficulty for adding Dex.
And then there's the fact that Lash would be working on Molly's Shintai form, not anything following the normal rules of biology.
I'd rather focus Lash's attention on the people less likely to survive a casual swipe of a big-deal vampire than on raising Molly's giant dicepool further.