Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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Well for one thing you would be rather obvious flying around Vegas.
@DragonParadox, are there devil possessed armed aerial drones small enough to be carried by a (superhumanly strong) person in our Hell? Something like a Switchblade.
If so, then we could go and get one and just have it fly low and blow Sandra up remotely.
If so, then we could go and get one and just have it fly low and blow Sandra up remotely.
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You could get some small chassis military Sutras, the problem is they look alien. Not so much when they are flying around, especially at night and doubly so in Vegas, but when they open up there is no mistaking them for anything mundane.
If they're loitering munitions, they'd blow up when they attack, so there wouldn't be much left.
Presumably it would only be an issue if the attack failed in such a way that they were captured and blocked from self-destructing.
I'd assume that the kind of charms that a spirit chosen to possess such a chassis would tend to have would include things like Camouflage or even Invisibility as well?
And, I mean, if it's filled with explosives would it look that different when they go boom to other weapons? Things like fireballs get covered up as regular explosives that they don't resemble at all.
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Ah I see, there are no intelligent spirit on one way drones, they are too rare for that. Molly can do that by just casting HMP, but keep in mind she would have to cast it at 1 Essence cost with every shot, still it is something that could be done.
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
Thats why ATP, unless you mean cameras.
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ATP applies to Molly herself not any sentient machines she might send on target, those are people not objects.
Can't a spirit just possess a new one way drone though? Spirit possession of objects can be temporary, and if the object is destroyed the spirit isn't harmed, so a spirit that's piloting a recoverable drone one day can switch to a one way loitering munition the next and then switch back when that's destroyed.
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
That's why I suggested rushing her as in Molly doing it not a drone.
I think hitting Sandra with multiple drones seems more efficient than trying to go after her personally.
Getting hit by air strikes would make it very hard for Sandra to operate and would probably at least pin her down, even if it doesn't kill her.
Anything that looks supernatural is going to get covered up anyway.
Getting hit by air strikes would make it very hard for Sandra to operate and would probably at least pin her down, even if it doesn't kill her.
Anything that looks supernatural is going to get covered up anyway.
Machine spirits do not have the power to rapidly poses a new body, they have to be aided with sorcerous rites
Oh right, then your main concern is cameras and Sandra not being in a place that is accessible by flight
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
Air strikes are rather obvious people would assume it's a terrorist attack or something. Not to mention if she is around civies we'd be blowing them up too.
We already have people firing RPGs around on city streets. That horse has well and truly bolted.
A drone attack also doesn't have to include that much collateral damage. Something like a knife missile could well exist that would allow killing her alone. If she's not surrounded by civilians though, destroying cultists around her may be valuable in itself.
I think drone strikes are something that wouldn't look like a terrorist attack in this era, we're before the proliferation of cheap drones. It would look like a state sponsored assassination, quite probably as US one.
And if we're thinking of reusable drones, a superhuman cyber fomor could probably deadlift something as heavy as an empty MQ-9 which could take off from a highway outside of the city. One possessed by a machine spirit with the Camoflague power should be able to orbit at low altitude without anyone noticing and be able to drop missiles on her wherever she is.
I mean, we're dealing with a near apocalyptic threat. Bringing out biggish guns would be fair enough.
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Thats not a bad idea actually.
Presumably we can find their homes pretty easily by looking at public records, then burglarize them for foci.
The only issue being whether we can be sure not to kill them, or make them fuck up in a way that makes shit worse for Vegas.
We should probably bring that up with Harry when he wakes up.
1) Its would now be an issue of a roll between the drone's dice and Sandra's dice.
And I dont really have any confidence in the ability of a drone to beat her.
Not to mention that drones strikes are not collateral-free weapons. Not in a civilian city.
2)Most of Nevada is literally the heart of the USAF's classified aircraft programs, and its airspace is watched very closely as a consequence. Nellis AFB is ~10 miles from Vegas.
Groom Lake is 83 miles.
We dont need any of that sort of attention.
Such incidents being covered up from the public does not stop it being pursued clandestinely, and we sure as fuck dont want to empower people like Daedalus.
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Since there aren't many votes yet and discussion is ongoing, but I did promise you guys another update today I'm going to do an interlude to show you a bit of an external PoV.
This is why we need to get control over the spy sats.
So we could grab some binoculars, and spend some essence and have a missile truck firing 40 missiles right at her.
We don't want her dead yet, we want her captured. If we had an essence vessel we could steal her soul and there wouldn't be much of a difference, but we need to deliver her to Winter to keep our deal.
I am leaning towards a full court press here though, the more we screw around the further she gets in her plans.
If there's a problem more demons can't solve if you go far enough I haven't seen it yet.
Especially since our hell should be full of weird shit no one has seen before and therefore only have a basic idea of how to fight. The super werewolf Dresden fought would have been all but unstoppable if he hadn't been able to look up their weakness to inherited silver. It's so specific even spamming the usual suspects for bane materials could only possibly have worked by accident.
Someone, probably a wizard, had to collate reports on what worked and what didn't from survivors and then bet someone's life on confirming it to make that fact available to him. Or else have knowledge of the curse that makes that sort of creature and be able to work it out from theory. Neither of those is an option until a lot of time has passed or we tell someone the information.
If we say summon a spirit of ice and hunger from the wastes whose bane is concentrated sediment from the river that birthed it, for example, have fun trying to stop the thing.
That won't always go our way; presumably some things that haven't seen the sun before but do have weaknesses related to it under the elemental system of the FCF will be in for a nasty surprise, but that's basically game balance in action and we don't have to summon anything with an obvious substitute.
Bringing bad luck to whatever you try to help is a classic that should filter by intent to hurt the cult stuff more than anything else, but we could also take inspiration from some other curse effects in ExWoD to make our own combo tracker-inhibitor curse.
Blast them with a curse that simultaneously draws in dark spirits like an enormous beacon and pisses them off at the target/anything they associate with. Then flood the city with demons and follow them in.
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I am leaning towards a full court press here though, the more we screw around the further she gets in her plans.
Drones are too easy to get the mortal world to follow. If we use copious amounts of demons the feds will have a harder time doing publicly visible stuff about it. They can also potentially be less lethal about it depending on the type.
If there's a problem more demons can't solve if you go far enough I haven't seen it yet.
Especially since our hell should be full of weird shit no one has seen before and therefore only have a basic idea of how to fight. The super werewolf Dresden fought would have been all but unstoppable if he hadn't been able to look up their weakness to inherited silver. It's so specific even spamming the usual suspects for bane materials could only possibly have worked by accident.
Someone, probably a wizard, had to collate reports on what worked and what didn't from survivors and then bet someone's life on confirming it to make that fact available to him. Or else have knowledge of the curse that makes that sort of creature and be able to work it out from theory. Neither of those is an option until a lot of time has passed or we tell someone the information.
If we say summon a spirit of ice and hunger from the wastes whose bane is concentrated sediment from the river that birthed it, for example, have fun trying to stop the thing.
That won't always go our way; presumably some things that haven't seen the sun before but do have weaknesses related to it under the elemental system of the FCF will be in for a nasty surprise, but that's basically game balance in action and we don't have to summon anything with an obvious substitute.
Fair, but I think we have enough mojo to make it work.
Bringing bad luck to whatever you try to help is a classic that should filter by intent to hurt the cult stuff more than anything else, but we could also take inspiration from some other curse effects in ExWoD to make our own combo tracker-inhibitor curse.
Blast them with a curse that simultaneously draws in dark spirits like an enormous beacon and pisses them off at the target/anything they associate with. Then flood the city with demons and follow them in.
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You apparently dont understand how spy satellites work.
They have very little commonality with what you see in TV shows and movies. They have limited fuel for repositioning, and have very little utility in tactical situations. Thats why drones exist instead.
The previous consideration was simply to tap them, not to hijack them.
Because hijacking several billion dollars worth of spy satellites is a great way to get on the radar of a lot of fucking people.
To the best of my knowledge?
Impersonating a police officer is illegal if you get caught, even though a lot of people do. Impersonating a doctor is not if you arent offering medical care or advice.
You have got to be trolling at this point.
Arc 11 Interlude 5: Oportune Obstruction
Oportune Obstruction
13th of January 2007 A.D.
The coffee tasted sour and metallic the way it always did when it was pissed out of a metal spigot, but Andrea Von Trier was a professional, she would as she had done these past three centuries persevere. More than that she would smile, men in power always reacted to a woman's smile, even an old woman, one who in another age might have been called a hag. "Thank you for seeing me on such short notice Senator, especially considering the unique considerations of my organization."
Larry Cockrell the Third nodded and harrumphed at the same time, giving the impression of nothing so much as an very well endowed bullfrog overseeing his pond. "Well, you said you knew what it was."
"Your 'green flash' or what did the Daedalus people call it 'intermittent psycho-luminescent signal'? For people so dubious of the arcane and esoteric they certainly have a love of esoteric vocabulary..."
Time rippled before her like a curtain woven from ten thousand threads rippling in a gale. Once it had been the vision of madness and damnation, the world tearing apart before her gaze, but that day was long past, that girl was gone, sure as if she had been buried with her brothers in the cold Rheinlander soil, here and how she could pluck from three one, the approach that would gain her the most success.
Honesty, how unusual. "It was a soul, specifically it was a soul so engorged with inner fire that it manifested as light, given what the recordings show, it was a reflexive reaction to the attack, like shielding your face with your arm, though considerably more effective."
"And the rest of it, this magical cloaking" He pronounced it almost like 'clucking', though fortunately Andrea had heard her fair share of entertaining New World accents not to laugh at this one.
"The girl did not wish to cause a panic, more of a one than was already happening at least. And yes, I know what you are about to ask, she likely removed the perpetrators from the scene. It does not at this point look like any government assets are under threat..."
"But they might be," he interrupted picking up a long spiraled pasty of a kind unusual to see in such briefing rooms, perhaps provided by the senator's staff for just this kind of culinary conducting. Really the man could do well in theater, which Andrea guessed did also make for a good politician. "She could just walk into Nelis Air Force Base."
"And the cameras there would catch her just as these have," Andrea pointed out calmly.
"Well in coordination with one of those cyber-strikes we wouldn't have any cameras now would we?" he pressed, pasty still swinging.
"Yes if this young woman in a cowboy costume in Vegas had the means to organize a major cyber attack that would be quite troubling. There is no indication that she can or indeed that she is so inclined. In fact that we seem to be looking at here is gang violence, pure and simple. Perhaps before sending in other operatives it would be prudent to simply put out a warrant on the two men with the shoulder mounted weapons. I suspect the police will find them alive and none the worst for wear..." Or they will find those people never existed, or that they have been declared dead years ago, the important part was not to send those cretins from Daedalus into a powder keg that now had a Freeholding Lord in all but name smack dab in the middle of it, Andrea thought inwardly. "More to the point I do not think it is wise to do equipment field testing in a city that has already seen a major incident. Senator if I may be blunt how do you think someone who has lived their whole lives under a veil of secrecy and who has the power to deflect rockets with a hand weapon would react to a successful test of this...'Franklin' Esper Detector?"
"You just said she was not a threat!" Senator Cockrell huffed back.
"I just said she did not mean to cause a panic, that is not the same thing as saying she would react peacefully to an attempt to expose her and anyone else veiling over the entire city. The US Government has never deployed such technology, the natural disinclination of those spiritually aware not to draw negative attention from the authorities would do little in this case. Doctor Jeffiries has compared this thing to sonar yes, like was used to hunt submarines? How do you think sapient and armed whales would react to a sonar pulse going on near them?"
At that the Senator seemed to deflate slightly. "Very well we will postpone the test, but I expect an account about what the Devil is going on in Vegas from your colleagues and from Project Daedalus."
"Understood," Andrea replied. Fortunately creative writing was one of her strong suits.
OOC: You guys got pretty lucky on this one.
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Is it too late to vote we take over the government using our army of magitech soldiers?
So the right arm doesn't know what the left one is doing. As always.
Does Senator even know about Library?